Parable of the Tares

I learned it a while back in this forum / Bible...whichever the two... either way... It is God that teaches and gives Truth. Thanks for the reminder Kriss.Matthew 13:38 - The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;I John 3:12 - Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.II Thessalonians 2:4 - Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.II Thessalonians 2:8 - And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:That got to be the clear explanation people got to see. Do you people see the connection?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.

Thanks Kriss, this is my first time looking so deep into this one.Isnt the Word of God amazing?...You look at it once and learn one thing- look twice and learn just as much if not more.

Kriss, I can not thank you enough for your time and lessons. I am a new creation and thirst for klowledge like this. I forwarded your Parable of the Tares to my pastor. I found it as well a the Key of David very interesting as both have taught me how to better read and understand the Word. Donnie

Were not all of the offspring of Cain destroyed in the great flood? How could they be here today?Donnie

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Were not all of the offspring of Cain destroyed in the great flood? How could they be here today?Donnie
Noah's deluge was not global but local.Ussher’s Chronology says 2348 B.C., Davidson says November 2345 B.C. to November 2344 B.C. for Noah’s deluge.Records of the Sumerians in Mesopotamia., their King Lists date to about 3350 B.C., and show an ongoing civilization well through the period of the flood. Egypt felt nothing of the deluge, they had an uninterrupted succession of Dynasties. China's civilization during the Yao Dynasty (between 2400 B.C. – 2200 B.C.) with no record of a cataclysmic interruption.Gen.8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. If the entire globe had been under water 150 days, where did this olive leaf (pluckt off) come from.Some consider the plateau of Pamir to be the original Eden. This probably was the homeland of Adam's descendants up until the time of the Flood. Today it’s known as the Tarim Basin or Eastern Turkestan. This region is surrounded by a ridge of very high mountains forming a gigantic basin in the midst of them. It measures 1,000 miles long and is about 350 miles wide. I have a Biblical study arrangement called "DELUGES". This is an in depth study to understand the deluge that ended the first earth age and Noah's deluge. It is in (WORD) or .doc. Write me and I will send it to anyone interested.

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world wide doesn't really matter
It certainly does make a huge difference when explaining to non-believers the account of Noah's deluge. What about all the other human races, and all the other animal breeds. It sheds such much light to someone who thinks the accounts in Genesis are fairy tales.

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Which is why I say
You are not understanding my point or maybe I am not very good explaining with text. Write me and I will email you "DELUGES". It is well worth it to look it over. Then later maybe we can continue this dialog.

I don't think the flood was world wide either however I do believe that two of all the races went into the ArkBelow are several excerpts from correspondences about Noah's Flood: In the flood Scriptures, the words “earth & heavens” can be local and not global. The can also mean the earth as a land orl and not glob and the heavens as the visible arch of the sky. The earth being round allows that it could have been referring to the heavens viable from the flood locale. I know how they read in the English, but observe the Hebrew definitions from the Strong’s Concordance:Gen 7:1919 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven , were covered. (KJV)Definitions for above:earth: Hebrew word #776 'erets (eh'-rets); from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land): KJV-- X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X nations, way, + wilderness, world.heaven: Hebrew word #8064 shamayim (shaw-mah'-yim); dual of an unused singular shameh (shaw-meh'); from an unused root meaning to be lofty; the sky (as aloft; the dual perhaps alluding to the visible arch in which the clouds move, as well as to the higher ether where the celestial bodies revolve): KJV-- air, X astrologer, heaven (-s). To illustrate the sometimes confusing English translations in our Bible (and showing why a Strong’s concordance is a most valuable study aid), I supple Cain’s discussion with God after God told Cain his punishment. Observe the use of the English phrase “thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth”. Here the word(s) “the earth” means ‘soil’ (Strong’s # 127). Surely Cain did not mean “off the face of the whole planet”. For Cain was driven of that soil that he was on into the land of Nod. Cain’s driving away was not global any more that the flood of Noah was global:Gen 4:13-1413 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth [earth here = erets, as in the flood Scripture above]; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. (KJV)God bless!NickA reader writes:"This Scripture sounds to me like a promise to never again destroy the earth with a flood - for perpetual generations:Gen 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth"Ok, fair enough point. But what the reader is forgetting (or doesn't know, better stated) is that there was a destruction of the first earth age between Gen 1:1-1:2. Perhaps you will find the below appendix from the Companion Bible regarding that destruction of the first earth age. The first earth age was completely destroyed by water, Noah's Flood was not complete:Appendix 146 of the The Companion Bible Foundation of the WorldThis Is Appendix 146 From The Companion Bible. To arrive at the true meaning of this expression, we must note that there are two words translated "foundation" in the New Testament: (1) themelios, and (2) katabole. The Noun, themelios, occurs in Luke 6:48-49, 14:29, Acts 16:26, Romans 15:20, 1Corinthians 3:l0-12, Ephesians 2:20, 1Timothy 6:19, 2Timothy 2:19, Hebrews 6:1, 11:10, Revelation 21:14,19. It is never used of the world (kosmos) or the earth (ge). The corresponding Verb (themelioo) occurs in Matthew 7:25, Luke 6:48, Ephesians 3:17, Colossians 1:23, Hebrews 1:10 and 1Peter 5:10. The verb is only once used of the earth (ge). Hebrews 1:10. A comparison of all these passages will show that these are proper and regular terms for the English words "to found", and "foundation". The Noun, katabole, occurs in Matthew 13:35, 25:34, Luke 11:50, John 17:24, Ephesians 1:4, Hebrews 4:3, 9:26 , 11:11, 1Peter 1:20, Revelation 13:8, 17:8 and the corresponding Verb (kataballo) occurs in 2Corinthians 4:9, Hebrews 6:1 and Revelation 12:10. A comparison of all these passages (especially 2Corinthians 4:9 and Revelation 12:10) will show that kataballo and katabole are not the proper terms for founding and foundation, but the correct meaning is casting down, or overthrow. Consistency, therefore, calls for the same translation in Hebrews 6:1, where, instead of "not laying again", the rendering should be "not casting down". That is to say, the foundation already laid, of repentance, etc., was not to be cast down or overthrown, but was to be left and progress made unto the perfection. Accordingly, the Noun katabole, derived from, and cognate with the Verb, ought to be translated "disruption", or "ruin". The remarkable thing is that in all occurrences (except Hebrews 11:11) the word is connected with "the world" (Greek kosmos. Appendix 129.1), and therefore the expression should be rendered "the disruption (or ruin) of the world", clearly referring to the condition indicated in Genesis 1:2, and described in 2Peter 3:5-6. For the earth was not created tohu (Isaiah 45:18) but became so, as stated in the Hebrew of Genesis 1:2 and confirmed by 2Peter 3:6, where "the world that then was by the word of God" (Genesis 1:1), perished and "the heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word" were created (Genesis 2:4), and are "kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment" (2Peter 3:7) which shall usher in the "new heavens and the new earth" of 2Peter 3:13. "The disruption of the world" is an event forming a great dividing line in the dispensations of the ages. In Genesis 1:1 we have the founding of the world (Hebrews 1:10 = themelioo), but in Genesis 1:2 we have its overthrow. This is confirmed by a further remarkable fact, that the phrase, which occurs ten times, is associated with the Preposition apo = from (Appendix 104. iv) seven times, and with pro = before (Appendix 104. xiv) three times. The former refers to the kingdom, and is connected with the "counsels" of God; the latter refers to the Mystery (or Secret; See Appendix 193) and is connected with the "purpose" of God (see John 17:24, Ephesians 1:4, 1Peter 1:20). Ample New Testament testimony is thus given to the profoundly significant fact recorded in Genesis 1:2, that "the earth became tohu and bohu (i.e. waste end desolate); and darkness was on the face of the deep", before the creation of "the heavens and the earth which are now" (2Peter 3:7). And finally, after Regarding all the absurd theories and violations of nature that 'young earth' (6000 literal years) devotees make to support a young earth and Noah's flood being a global and complete destruction:We respect their right to believe:•• That somehow the water necessary to cover the entire globe over the height of Mt. Everest (5½ miles above sea level!) fell upon the earth and then vanished.•• That Noah's Ark, of which the Bible gives the dimensions of (the Sacred Cubit is approx 25' long; thus, the Ark was 625' long x 104' wide x 62' 5" high), was somehow large enough to house the hundreds of thousands of known species today (not to mention their food supply for a year, or the fact that they were taken by two's {unclean animals} and by sevens {clean animals} each - Gen7:2).•• That from the eight white people on the Ark, in a matter of less that a thousand years, evolved all the different races (Black, Oriental, Hispanic..), and then they suddenly stopped evolving.•• That the Kenites (sons of Cain from Gen 4:17-24) made it through the flood (to be found in 1st Chron 2:55, etc.), but were not with Noah's family on the Ark (good swimmers perhaps?).•• That receding water from a single great flood could carve solid rock to the great depth of the grand canyon. (The Grand Canyon extends 277 miles. It is about 1 mile deep. The canyon varies in width from less than 1 mile to 18 miles).-----------------------We at WBSG will continue to believe what the Bible says about the Flood of Noah, and:•• That the reason for the Flood was solely to kill the Giants in Gen 6:1-8, whom were the abominable to God offspring of Adam's daughters and the fallen angels.•• That the Flood was restricted to the area were Adam's tribe lived and where this mixing of human and angelic being was taking place (Gen 6:1-7).•• That the Hebrew will allow for "earth" being rendered "land, region, country" (and is in other places in the Bible), and that also "heaven" can be rendered "the visible arch in the sky" for as far as the eye can see due to earth's curvature.•• That the other races (Black, Asia, Hispanic, ...) were untouched by the flood as they lived in another part of the earth.•• That the only animals taken onto the Ark were the animals that were found in the region of the Flood (seven of every clean animal, and two of every unclean animal).•• That God, while he could, does not create trillion x trillions of metric tons of water and then destroy it again a year later (as 'young earth' devotees explain away the amount of water necessary to cover the highest mountain ranges (Mt. Everest - 5½ miles above sea level).•• That carbon 14 and the other elements of this great, God created earth and universe, act (and degrade) in the same fashion and at the same rate as when the Almighty created them (as 'young earth' devotees explain away the ancient dates of fossils).•• And that solid rock exposed to the agitate action of water running across its face erodes at the same rate today that it did 4349 years ago (back to flood year). (The Grand Canyon is about 1 mile deep. The canyon varies in width from less than 1 mile to 18 miles).-----------------------We at WBSG are Bible believers, we do not fabricate wondrous absurdities to defend a book that is not incorrect (Bible), and do not have to lie to people to cover-up inconsistencies in the Bible that do not exist!This earth (the planet itself) is millions and millions of years old. This earth age is approx. 14,000 years old, just like the Bible declares.God bless!Nickhttp://www.biblestudysite.com/answers13.htm#5

I might just be missing something in this parable but I don't see how the tares are the literal children of Satan. Couldn't the good seed just be those who have accepted christ, and the bad seed those who have NOT accepted christ?And if the tares are the literal children of satan and they are to harvested and burned than what was the point of their life? They had no chance to achieve salvation, they were already doomed to hell before they were ever born. That just doesn't sound right to me.