Luke 14:15-24 Rapture Before Great Tribulation

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Davy

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I was going with your roll until this one.

Yeshua did say what you are asserting, that if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived. The neat thing in that statement that I think gets missed by some is the "if it were possible". That is a positive statement! The implication is that it isn't possible to deceive the elect!

But I am not sure that the church is in view here, if that is what you were alluding to. Allow me explain....

The NT was not in hand when Yeshua made this statement. He is a Jewish Messiah speaking to literate Jewish brethren. They knew the scriptures. The Ekklesia or Church would not begin for almost 2 months.

A hermeneutic principle comes in to play. How was elect used in scripture prior to Yeshua mentioning the elect? Elect is only mentioned 4 times in the OT and all of them in Isaiah. The first (Isaiah 42:1) seems pretty clear it is a reference to the future Messiah. However, all the other references are to pretty much of Israel. Isaiah 45:4 and Isaiah 65:9 seem to be referencing Israel.

Even the passage in Isaiah 65 which talks of the elect. I know, I know, there is a reference in verse 17 of that chapter regarding a new heaven and new earth. But the passage also states that the people being talked about will bear children and have offspring. It talks of a child dying at 100 years and a sinner being accursed. So all of the references in this passage, the new heaven and new earth must be the restored heaven and earth that starts the Messianic kingdom. The New Heaven and New Earth of Revelation, death has been cast into the lake of fire, so it cannot be the same reference as in Isaiah 65.

So I tend to side with the elect Yeshua is talking about as being Israel, not the church. Now if you were intending to mean God's elect and that being Israel, then I could go along with that.

It is true, that those that are part of the Church are also God's elect. But so was Cyrus of Persia. And we have no real basis in scripture to make a conclusion that he was saved in any way. Just that he was God's chosen/elect/anointed to allow the Hebrews to return to the land after the captivity in Babylon.


I really don't understand the difficulty you're having with this. It's simply about God's chosen with the word "elect".

The timing Jesus was speaking of about that coming pseudo-Christ in Matthew 24 was in the future, to the final generation. Since you can't seem to grasp the concept of His elect linked with the future timing when the Antichrist comes at the end of this world, then I can understand how your mind would be all twisted and screwed up trying to interpret what I said. The only thing you got correct of what you said I said was how it's not possible for Christ's very elect to be deceived.
 

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I can grasp the concept of His Elect. But which elect were you referring to? The church, AKA the elect bride of Messiah? Or the elect, Jacob AKA Israel?

My mind is not twisted or screwed up, unless you talk to my wife! But again, when Yeshua was referencing the elect in Matthew, we (in the 21st Century) have to know which elect. And the foundational precepts of scripture interpretation is to look back at how it was used previously. And in all instance but one, the elect refers to Israel.

Those that say the elect is the church use this to say the church goes thru the GT. Those that say it refers to Israel use it to support the concept that the church has been removed.

So which group of elect does weigh on the matter. And as I mentioned before, elect does not mean saved. Cyrus of Persia was elect/chosen/anointed but may not have been saved. Israel is elect as a nation, but not all of Israel are saved. Paul supports this assertion in Romans.
 
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I can grasp the concept of His Elect. But which elect were you referring to? The church, AKA the elect bride of Messiah? Or the elect, Jacob AKA Israel?

My mind is not twisted or screwed up, unless you talk to my wife! But again, when Yeshua was referencing the elect in Matthew, we (in the 21st Century) have to know which elect. And the foundational precepts of scripture interpretation is to look back at how it was used previously. And in all instance but one, the elect refers to Israel.

Those that say the elect is the church use this to say the church goes thru the GT. Those that say it refers to Israel use it to support the concept that the church has been removed.

So which group of elect does weigh on the matter. And as I mentioned before, elect does not mean saved. Cyrus of Persia was elect/chosen/anointed but may not have been saved. Israel is elect as a nation, but not all of Israel are saved. Paul supports this assertion in Romans.

Well, when you come to understand just what generation He gave those signs for, which includes His second coming, then you'll know which elect He was talking about.
 

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Well, when you come to understand just what generation He gave those signs for, which includes His second coming, then you'll know which elect He was talking about.

I am pretty confident I have a grasp on who He was referring to.
 

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There is tribulation which we are going through right now, and there is great tribulation that has not happened yet.

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

So why do you all (rapturist)reject the clear words of Christ?

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not have her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"

Matthew 24:30 "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

What part of after don't you all get?
 
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Ephesians 6:13 "Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God that ye may be able to with stand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."

What day is the above?
 
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So why do you all (rapturist)reject the clear words of Christ?

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not have her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"

Matthew 24:30 "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

What part of after don't you all get?

Not sure what you mean. I believe in a pre-trib removal of the righteous and I don't reject those verses.

The "they" in V30, I believe, is those who remain to the end during the events of the Tribulation period. That doesn't mean that there wasn't a removal of the righteous before that. And no where does it say that when the righteous are removed, that "they" will see the sign of the Son of Man. The sign of the removal is there will be some folks missing.
 

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Ephesians 6:13 "Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God that ye may be able to with stand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."

What day is the above?

Surely not the Great Tribulation, unless you think that the Lord is Evil. Do you not read that it is the wrath of God? Isaiah says the Lord is coming out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth. So has that now become evil?
 

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Surely not the Great Tribulation, unless you think that the Lord is Evil. Do you not read that it is the wrath of God? Isaiah says the Lord is coming out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth. So has that now become evil?

No, not the day of God"s wrath on the 7th vial. It is great trib timing; that's the evil day.
 

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The Evil Day can be broadly interpreted. Is what the N. Korean brothers and sisters going thru the “evil day” for them? How about the purges of Nero or the Inquisition? I would think so. And we can’t make an assumption that it only refers to the 70th week of Daniel alone without other scripture supporting that assertion. And Ephesians is the only specific reference to “evil day”. We can’t base an entire doctrinal position on one reference.

I am pretty sure Paul was making the case that we are always to be prepared, for that day will come when each person will confront evil in some form.
 
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Hello,

Ephesian 6:13 should not be viewed in isolation. It has to be viewed in the context of the verses around it. The day referred to in verse 13 is the day that evil comes against you, whether it is today, tomorrow or some time in the future. Each day we will battle against the evil in this world and the wicked fallen heavenly hosts, i.e. the beasts of Daniel 7, as well as the wickedness of Satan, such that it is important that we are continually clothed with protection against the wiles of the entities of those mentioned in verse 12 proceeding verse 13.

We should never go looking for a verse to support our perspective in a discussion without first considering the context in which the chosen verse is found in scripture, otherwise we can get the scriptures to say whatever we want it to say, without regards to the actual message that is contained within the context where that verse is found. The Question asked as to which day is being referred to in verse 13 is relevant in that it is suggesting that we are fighting daily against the evil forces in the world until such time that the final judgement occurs. Then if the evil forces in the world have not been able to penetrate our protective clothing, then we will be found righteous. If we have err in our diligence and allowed the evil forces in the world to penetrated through our protective clothing, then by keeping a short account of our short comings with the Lord, we will not be found lacking on the day that He sit in judgement over us.

We can theorise as to when that day is, but for me, as Revelation 20 informs us, unless we have lost our head and not taken the mark of Satan upon ourselves, then our time of judgement will be at the end of the Millennium Age and not at the beginning.

Shalom
 

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We can theorise as to when that day is, but for me, as Revelation 20 informs us, unless we have lost our head and not taken the mark of Satan upon ourselves, then our time of judgement will be at the end of the Millennium Age and not at the beginning.

But it also depends on what judgement we are talking about, right? The one of Revelation 20 is not of any concern to those in Messiah. That is the judgement of life or death. And that one is indeed at the end of the Millennial age.

The following is the Bema seat judgement for which we are judged on what we did or didn't do after we were made righteous by the Blood of the Lamb. Our works are judged. This is the only judgement the righteous undergo.

2 Corinthians 5:10 (NKJV) For we must all appear before the judgment seat (Greek Bema) of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Corinthians 3:12-15 (NKJV) Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

We, as believers, have already passed from death to life by the Blood of Yeshua. There is no judgement regarding salvation. We have passed from death to life.

John 5:24 (NKJV) “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

While on the surface Revelation 20 seems to suggest both taking place at the same time, I am not quite on board with that. The 24 Elders are seen in Heaven from Chapter 4 on prior to the Great White Throne event. And they have crowns of gold. Crowns are indicative of rewards as it pertains to those in Heaven. Outside of heaven, crowns can mean anything, so to equate crowns, like those on Locusts in Revelation 9:7 is specious at best.

And Revelation 2:26-27 states that we will reign and rule with a Rod of Iron, along with Messiah, during the millennial age. And while it isn't said as such, I am convinced that what level we are ruling with Him will be based on that Bema Seat judgement also.
 
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But it also depends on what judgement we are talking about, right? The one of Revelation 20 is not of any concern to those in Messiah. That is the judgement of life or death. And that one is indeed at the end of the Millennial age.

The following is the Bema seat judgement for which we are judged on what we did or didn't do after we were made righteous by the Blood of the Lamb. Our works are judged. This is the only judgement the righteous undergo.

2 Corinthians 5:10 (NKJV) For we must all appear before the judgment seat (Greek Bema) of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Corinthians 3:12-15 (NKJV) Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

We, as believers, have already passed from death to life by the Blood of Yeshua. There is no judgement regarding salvation. We have passed from death to life.

John 5:24 (NKJV) “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

While on the surface Revelation 20 seems to suggest both taking place at the same time, I am not quite on board with that. The 24 Elders are seen in Heaven from Chapter 4 on prior to the Great White Throne event. And they have crowns of gold. Crowns are indicative of rewards as it pertains to those in Heaven. Outside of heaven, crowns can mean anything, so to equate crowns, like those on Locusts in Revelation 9:7 is specious at best.

And Revelation 2:26-27 states that we will reign and rule with a Rod of Iron, along with Messiah, during the millennial age. And while it isn't said as such, I am convinced that what level we are ruling with Him will be based on that Bema Seat judgement also.

It all depends on when we see Christ coming on the Clouds with all of the heavenly hosts to judge the nations. I would contend that Christ only comes to judge all the people of the nations at the end of the Millennium Age whereas you appear to favour that this time will occur at the Beginning of the Millennium Age. If the great harvest does not beginning until after the beginning of the Millennium Age, then I fear that your favoured view is not in line with what the scriptures reveal.

The Beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 are not dealt with until the end of this present age, after which Christ is given dominion over the peoples of the earth.

During the first 1,000 years of the Millennium Age, peace will be found on the earth, but after the Bottomless pit is unlocked after the completion of this 1,000 year period, great tribulation and turmoil will occur and the sun will be darkened and the moon will turn red, before the Coming of Christ in all of His Glory. It is at this time that the covenant mentioned in Daniel 9:27 will be solemnly entered into by he who is insolent only to be broken and changed by Satan before he is finally defeated by being captured by Christ and then throne into the Bottomless pit as his punishment.

Perhaps, we all need to step back for a period of time and reconsider our respective views and relook at the scriptures to see if we have received revelation of the End Times or whether or not the End time Prophecies are still sealed up and we have not had any revelation concerning the End Times.

Shalom
 

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Surely not the Great Tribulation, unless you think that the Lord is Evil. Do you not read that it is the wrath of God? Isaiah says the Lord is coming out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth. So has that now become evil?

The evil day is the hour of temptation of satan,I asked that question,to ask another,why do you all need the whole armour if you not gonna be here?
 

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Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh ad blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

This battle we are going to fight against is not "flesh and blood", it is not people you see and hear, but it is against hidden and deceitful spiritual powers. Satan is the prince of darkness, and spiritually he controls the minds and actions of not only rulers of this earth, but all evil spirits in the heavenlies. These are the angelic beings in a fallen state.

Are you prepared mentally to do battle with Them? This battle is not with guns and swords, but with words and doctrines; with concepts and ideas, and these are the "fiery darts" that Satan will conduct his warfare against you with.

Daniel 8:23 will give us a view of what this ruler of darkness is like. "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up."

This king in the "latter time" is Satan, the Antichrist; he is the "king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences". In the Hebrew text it means that Satan is "skilled in dissimulation" of the truth of God's word. Satan knows all of God's word, and as such, he is the father of lies and deception. He will twist and turn the truth a little here and a little there, to make it an outright lie. Satan is the Antichrist on earth, and we must never forget it.

Daniel 8:24 "And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy People."

He will take away so much of Christianity, and cause so much deception through false doctrines [such as the rapture doctrine] that all those without their full [whole] armor on, will be deceived. He comes "in" [to this earth] with the promise of peace and prosperity; with false hopes and a promise to fulfill your every wish, if you will but follow him.

Daniel 8:25 "And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."

Satan's "policy" is the way he fights, which is his method of operation. The "craft to prosper in his hand", refers to his ability that God will give him to do many miracles and wonders. Revelation 13 tells us how he will use this deceit to trick the whole world, except for God's elect, those with the seal of God {knowledge} in their minds.

"He shall magnify himself in his heart", is covered in II Thessalonians 2:4; "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God, shewing [calling] himself that he is God." This is the "Abomination of desolation [by the desolator]" spoken of in Daniel 9:27, and by Jesus in Matthew 24:15.

"By peace" is Satan's secret weapon, for peace is the most powerful weapon used against God's people in this final generation. It is dismantling the mind of the Christian church and disarming our nation today. In the end Satan will be "broken without hand", because it will be by the tow edged sword which comes from the mouth of Jesus Christ. The same sword that spoke and worlds were formed, and the stars were put in their places. However, we must not underestimate Satan's power to deceive, and his miracles, and cries for peace, peace, peace.

Europe has moved to unity, and by treaty, and the Americas are also brought together. But the binding force for the world politically is the United Nations, with it's many dominating agencies. World peace is at the door step, and with it comes the sounding of the "fifth trumpet of Revelation 9:1. At the fall of this world political system, comes the rise of a world religious order, which will cause the world nations to bow to the coming ruler, the Antichrist. Even the Christian world will bow to this religious leader, the Antichrist, as their Messiah. One worldism is so close, that it could become fact at any time.

Ephesians 6:13 "Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God that ye may be able to with stand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."

We will stand against Satan, and all his forces. The "evil day" is just before the Lord's return, and on that day we had better be prepared to stand and face Satan, with our full armor on.

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It all depends on when we see Christ coming on the Clouds with all of the heavenly hosts to judge the nations. I would contend that Christ only comes to judge all the people of the nations at the end of the Millennium Age whereas you appear to favour that this time will occur at the Beginning of the Millennium Age. If the great harvest does not beginning until after the beginning of the Millennium Age, then I fear that your favoured view is not in line with what the scriptures reveal.

I think you are misreading my post. I never said that judging all the people of the nations will be at the beginning. That judgement is the Great White Throne judgement. I said that the Bema seat judgement (the judgement regarding works and rewards) of the righteous which are removed will be at the beginning of the millennial age. I specifically mentioned two different judgements. Try to keep up.
 

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He will take away so much of Christianity, and cause so much deception through false doctrines [such as the rapture doctrine] that all those without their full [whole] armor on, will be deceived. He comes "in" [to this earth] with the promise of peace and prosperity; with false hopes and a promise to fulfill your every wish, if you will but follow him.

It does cause one to wonder, of all the false doctrines that are devastating in terms of actual salvation, why did you seem to focus on "such as the Rapture doctrine"? What makes it so special that you would focus on it and how does that affect salvation? We can discuss and debate the merits of various scenarios of the end times and that doesn't necessarily mean that one's salvation is in question.

You suppose that "the rapture doctrine" is false, yet there are many who see solid scriptural support for it. The word is even in the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible. The root word for rapture in English comes from the Latin. it is the Latin word for the Greek, Harpazo, which means caught up, forcibly snatched away, etc. But you must not see it, but that doesn't mean you have a lock on everything. We all will probably end up with egg on our face regarding these things. It is not one of those critical doctrines of the faith like the Trinity.

And what part of the "blessed hope" (Titus 2:13) is about going thru the tribulation period? For the righteous, what purpose of God does it serve to have them go thru that period of time of His allowing evil to come into full bloom along with His coming out to punish the entire earth? Why would God, knowing our weaknesses, want to jeopardize some denying the faith under such intense pressure after His Son had paid such a high price to redeem them? Does God really care that little for His own Son? The idea that God would cause the righteous to go thru the GT period flies in the face of who God is. It denies His character.

And it almost smacks of some sort of purgatory type of idea. That the Blood of Yeshua was not enough to ensure salvation (now that is a heresy if there ever was one), so believers have to go thru the fire of the tribulation period to prove it and cleanse themselves. Oh, by the way, that is a doctrine in some circles even though it is very pagan in it's origins. But what of those believers that have already died? Do they then not make it since they didn't go thru the tribulation also?
 
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I think you are misreading my post. I never said that judging all the people of the nations will be at the beginning. That judgement is the Great White Throne judgement. I said that the Bema seat judgement (the judgement regarding works and rewards) of the righteous which are removed will be at the beginning of the millennial age. I specifically mentioned two different judgements. Try to keep up.
There in lies the issue. Are the judgements mentioned in 2 Corinthians 5 and 1 Corinthians 3 any different to the final judgement period that is found mentioned in Revelation 20?

My understanding is that they are one and the same judgement.

Revelation 20 mentions a resurrection of the saints, who have lost their heads because of their faith and refusal to submit to Satan and who have not taken his mark upon themselves and as a consequence have lost their heads, at the beginning of the Last Age, who will minister with Christ as Priests unto the Lord in Heaven for 1,000 years. This resurrection is labelled as the First resurrection by John, and then John tells us that the rest of the dead will have to wait until the end of the Millennium Age before they are resurrected.

It is my understanding that Christ's "second advent" when He comes with all of the Heavenly Hosts to Judge the peoples of the world, except those of the First Resurrection, both the unrighteous and the righteous, happens after the 1,000 years of Satan's imprisonment in the Bottomless pit and his marching all over the world and towards Jerusalem which occurs during the little while period, before he is captured and dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

Both of the Corinthians passages that you referenced in your above post are silent as to when the mentioned judgement time occurs. Both of this passages can be compared considered to be referencing the Matthew 25 judgement parable where the "works" of the people who called Christ "Lord, Lord," will be judged to determine the focus of their hearts and wether or not they receive their inheritance or are sent to the place where Satan has been dispatched too.

My life's journey can only be in step with Christ as He walks with me and talks with me. I will only listen to His words and what they mean and pass onto others what He is teaching me to do and say.

Shalom
 

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Jay, let's try looking at this from another direction.

We know that Yeshua will be reigning in the 1000 year Millennial Kingdom here on earth after the Tribulation events.

Now the big question... who is reigning with Him?

2 Timothy 2:11-13 (NKJV) This is a faithful saying:
For if we died with Him,
We shall also live with Him. 12 If we endure,
We shall also reign with Him.
If we deny Him,
He also will deny us. 13 If we are faithless,
He remains faithful;
He cannot deny Himself.

Revelation 2:26-27 (NKJV) And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations
27 ‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter's vessels’—as I also have received from My Father;

It would seem that those who overcome, will rule with Messiah.

1 John 5:4-5 (NKJV) For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God

Now, if no one is judged until all are judged at the end of the 1000 year Millennial Kingdom, then how is it determined who those are that overcome and reign with Messiah during the Millennial Kingdom?

That is why many see the Bema Seat judgement of Messiah in 1 Corinthians 5:10 as happening early on after the righteous are removed from the earth prior to the terrible time that is coming upon the earth. It could be possible that this judgement lasts as long in Heaven as the entire Tribulation period going on at the same time. Paul uses "Bema" In Greek for this judgement seat. The Bema Seat was where the rewards for participating in the Greek and Roman athletic games were given. Paul is saying this judgement seat is in regards to rewards for faithful service. It is a judgement only of believers, just like only participants in athletic games, only those who are members of the body of Messiah. And being believers and already justified by faith, they have already passed from death to life, so there is no judgement regarding eternal life as that was already taken care of by the death, burial, and resurrection of Messiah.

The Great White Throne Judgement of Revelation 20 is another thing altogether. That is a judgement of all those, from all time, that never were believers. It is a prosecutorial / courtroom type of preceding where the evidence is laid out regarding each of them. The case is made from both their works and the book of life that they are guilty. They will be judged on their works, then judged whether they are in the book of life. I believe that is so there will be none that can claim God is not just in His judgement of them. Good works won't save anyone. Only being in the Book of Life, and that requires being a part of Messiah.

Some argue that this judgment, those that never were knowledgeable of the Lord, that they will be judged on the basis of the revelation they had of God. That some will be saved based on how the acted in regards to what they were aware of or how they treated their fellow mankind. That is a minefield that this old soldier is not going to wander in to. I will let others fight over that one.

Shalom!
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Cliff, it is my understanding that your timeline does not line up with the timeline found in Scripture concerning the End Times.

Only recently, I have come to understand that the Revelation 16:17-22 Bowl Judgement is referencing the time period around WW1, but others believe that it is the last bowl judgement and will occur towards the very end of the Millennium Age. It seems to me that our understanding of the End Times is rather flawed and confusing and as such what we may believe is the End Times timeline of event will be nothing like what will actually occur.

Who has understanding is difficult to determine.

With respect to the 6th bowl judgement, Rev 16:12-16, it is my opinion that this prophetic prophecy is presently unfolding at this present time and will come to a conclusion in our near future.

Does this then mean that the Bowl judgement in Revelation should be understood to occur in the reverse order to the order that they are presented in this chapter.

If this is the case, then perhaps our understanding of the end times needs to be reviewed and reworked.

Shalom