New World Order

Triumph1300 · May 10, 2018

A nursing graduate at Colorado Mesa University was told she could not mention Jesus or read a Bible verse during remarks she was supposed to deliver at a pinning ceremony.
The university made it clear that references to Jesus would not be tolerated.

Nancy · May 10, 2018

Stranger said:
Those who believe in the rapture of the Church, such as I, are no different than the rest of Christianity that is to be looking for the 2nd Coming of Christ. We all are to be watching...arn't we? So no matter when the rapture occurs or if it doesn't occur, we still watch and anticipate the intervention of Christ during that terrible time.

World events are very interesting to me. Just yesterday I listened to the English representative say that England will not follow the U.S. in pulling out of the Iranian deal. England has chosen to remain united instead with Europe. I think this is very telling. That new world order is going to be centered in the area of the old Roman Empire. And the U.S. is not there geographically. And, we are losing our political clout all over the world.

At present the U.S. is represented by the Christian people of the country, but that is not always the case. Under Obama we were represented by the anti-christian people of the country. Thus under Obama we are brought into a bad deal with Iran, which threatens Israel, who are the promised people of God also. Now under Trump we pull out of the deal and sanction Iran again to the benefit of Israel. Israel has the freedom as far as the U.S is concerned, to fire away at Iran if need be. As she did yesterday. But U.S support for Israel now lasts only as long as the election dictates. Which means in a couple of years it may be gone as anti-christian leftists take power. And Israel knows this.

So we are becoming isolated from the Western world but still allied with Israel. Russia is allied with Iran an enemy of Israel. And I believe Scripture indicates Russia will one day attack Israel. But Russia would never do this if we were there. Which begs the question, where did we go?

Stranger

Yes, very good question! I have heard people say that we (U.S.) are depicted in the bible as an eagle. I looked up eagle symbols in those times and came up with a Roman Chrest of an eagle that was on all official bldgs. including the Jewish Temple.
I just do not think we are mentioned.

Nancy · May 10, 2018

Nancy said:
Yes, very good question! I have heard people say that we (U.S.) are depicted in the bible as an eagle. I looked up eagle symbols in those times and came up with a Roman Chrest of an eagle that was on all official bldgs. including the Jewish Temple.
I just do not think we are mentioned.

" And I believe Scripture indicates Russia will one day attack Israel." Kings of the North, as I heard it taught one time.

Helen · May 10, 2018

brakelite said:
@Triumph1300 I tend to take little notice of what is taking place, except in concern for the thousands of innocent victims who suffer and die as a result of these games. And games they are. All wars are deliberately orchestrated in order to create a social and/or political atmosphere whereby in desperation, the people of the world will welcome the NWO with open arms. The entire political and social world at the moment, while there is great genuine suffering and angst in many nations and with many individuals, is a sham. It is a show being played out to an agenda. Each act in the play is merely a stepping stone in order to introduce the next crisis. Over the years, there have been many such acts, some more important than others. 9/11 was one of the most important and striking, but even that was only a part of the whole.
One day, when the world is at the "brink" of what we will be told is "self-destruction", or from natural disaster, all of a sudden the leaders will step up and say, "we have the only solution". The world will rejoice, and this planet will become a prison.

Yes indeed...nailed it!

Truth · May 10, 2018

As I stated on another thread, My dad made sure we new what a Corrupt Government we had when we were young, before our teens! all I can offer to this thread is that the End that the enemy wants, will be overthrown By Our Father. He that is in all of you is Greater than he that is in all the world, it won't be pretty, But the Master has the Rudder, as it will go according to His Plan. As Jesus said to Peter when he sliced the centurion's ear off, and He told him to put away his sword!!! HOW ELSE, and after He Laid down His Life!

Helen · May 10, 2018

brakelite said:
In considering the coming NWO, one must, must, give serious consideration to the roles being played by those with whom many of us have sympathies. Sometimes we do not want to believe that those whom we have admired/trusted for many years as having only our best interests at heart, are in fact working very hard and determinedly to knife us all in the back. Notice the extreme socialist agenda on the facing clip...
Here in this video is a very deep lecture on that very subject.

Good video. But what a pity so many Christians just blow it off as "fear mongering"....so many many gullible Christians who do not "have a clue what is really going on."
As for the man in the street, most are brainwashed along with most Christians.
It not as if we "dwell on these things"....but we are well informed and aware of what is coming down the pipeline ...

I am convinced that as in the video that is their Plan...has been for many decades....but we praise God , He has a Plan...and it is "Plan A".

Praise the Lord!!

Helen · May 10, 2018

Amen @Truth Amen!

brakelite · May 11, 2018

Triumph1300 said:
Brakelite, I believe satan is behind all of this.
He knows his time is short, so he does everything possible to make a mess and take as many with him as he can.
But we know the end. It's in the book.

I agree. But we must remember that he has agents through which he has been working. Daniel and Revelation reveal most strikingly who those agents are. See my thread i just started on the "real foundations of the RCC". If we do not recognize these agents, and we are not completely informed of their agendas and the insidious deceptive ways they are working, then the likelihood of being deceived by them becomes certain. Even to the point of accepting their mark.

Stranger · May 11, 2018

Nancy said:
Yes, very good question! I have heard people say that we (U.S.) are depicted in the bible as an eagle. I looked up eagle symbols in those times and came up with a Roman Chrest of an eagle that was on all official bldgs. including the Jewish Temple.
I just do not think we are mentioned.

I agree. I do not think the U.S. is in Bible prophecy. I believe God has used the U.S to be a haven for Christians and Jews until the end times. Not only did the Christian America provide a haven here, but she also was the only nation powerful enough to deter other nations from attacking the Jews in Israel while God once again began peopling that land with Jews. Thus I think our downfall, which we presently are in, will coincide with the rise of anti-christianity in our land, as well as the rise of European unity, and the positioning of Russia in it's desire to attack Israel.

In other words, it is my belief that God's purpose for the U.S is about finished. Once we are gone, either literally due to war or some catastrophe from God, Israel will then be forced to make treaties and alliances with the united Europe for her survival. And of course from there comes the anti-christ. And somewhere during that time Russia will attack Israel.

Russia is found in Scripture as Gog and Magog. The attack upon Israel is found in (Ez. 38-39).

Stranger

Nancy · May 11, 2018

Stranger said:
I agree. I do not think the U.S. is in Bible prophecy. I believe God has used the U.S to be a haven for Christians and Jews until the end times. Not only did the Christian America provide a haven here, but she also was the only nation powerful enough to deter other nations from attacking the Jews in Israel while God once again began peopling that land with Jews. Thus I think our downfall, which we presently are in, will coincide with the rise of anti-christianity in our land, as well as the rise of European unity, and the positioning of Russia in it's desire to attack Israel.

In other words, it is my belief that God's purpose for the U.S is about finished. Once we are gone, either literally due to war or some catastrophe from God, Israel will then be forced to make treaties and alliances with the united Europe for her survival. And of course from there comes the anti-christ. And somewhere during that time Russia will attack Israel.

Russia is found in Scripture as Gog and Magog. The attack upon Israel is found in (Ez. 38-39).

Stranger

Yes, I agree with all of what you are saying, it's all over the headlines...and we need to be built up in the faith when the storms come.
Over the years, I have mentioned the end times to various friends. They, of course thought I was crazy but, I do not think they will forgot the things I said to them soooo, when the time comes, maybe they will remember and choose life!

Have a great day Stranger.

brakelite · May 11, 2018

Stranger said:
I agree. I do not think the U.S. is in Bible prophecy. I believe God has used the U.S to be a haven for Christians and Jews until the end times.

And if you look carefully enough, you will find that very thing described in prophecy concerning America...in Revelation 12 we read of a woman being persecuted then chased by the dragon. Vs 12-14. It says she fled into the wilderness. The woman is the church...in the 16th to the 18th centuries escaping the papal persecutions in Europe, she fled to America...then a wilderness as far as the gospel is concerned. The earth (vs 16) swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out after her. In Revel. 13 we read of a beast coming up out of the earth. Vs 11. Beasts are nations. All the other beasts in prophecy rose from the sea...which Revel. 17 tells us are peoples nations and tongues...vast populated areas of strife and war...but here a beast comes up with two horns like a lamb (peaceful and non-violent in her infancy) in a wilderness or earth as opposed to the sea. This new nation swallowed the church escaping Europe as you say and gave refuge to her. The vomit of false doctrines of Rome were swallowed up in the new world and Protestantism flourished. Unfortunately, the beast did not take long to begin speaking (through her legislative institutions) like the dragon. While giving the appearance of innocency underneath a dark shadow grew and is developing today into the false prophet who will direct the world into submission to the first beast...antichrist...the Papal led NWO; the woman (Rome) riding the state beast forming Babylon the Great.

bbyrd009 · May 11, 2018

"ByGrace" said:
@Stranger Amen yes, good one.

And I agree, rapture or no rapture is not the question...but 'are we living, ready'....
Our old pastor used to say.." One day God will say-" Ready or not, here I come." !!

Even so...COME...

7Hear me speedily, O LORD: my spirit faileth: hide not thy face from me, lest I be like unto them that go down into the pit.

Stranger · May 11, 2018

brakelite said:
And if you look carefully enough, you will find that very thing described in prophecy concerning America...in Revelation 12 we read of a woman being persecuted then chased by the dragon. Vs 12-14. It says she fled into the wilderness. The woman is the church...in the 16th to the 18th centuries escaping the papal persecutions in Europe, she fled to America...then a wilderness as far as the gospel is concerned. The earth (vs 16) swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out after her. In Revel. 13 we read of a beast coming up out of the earth. Vs 11. Beasts are nations. All the other beasts in prophecy rose from the sea...which Revel. 17 tells us are peoples nations and tongues...vast populated areas of strife and war...but here a beast comes up with two horns like a lamb (peaceful and non-violent in her infancy) in a wilderness or earth as opposed to the sea. This new nation swallowed the church escaping Europe as you say and gave refuge to her. The vomit of false doctrines of Rome were swallowed up in the new world and Protestantism flourished. Unfortunately, the beast did not take long to begin speaking (through her legislative institutions) like the dragon. While giving the appearance of innocency underneath a dark shadow grew and is developing today into the false prophet who will direct the world into submission to the first beast...antichrist...the Papal led NWO; the woman (Rome) riding the state beast forming Babylon the Great.

I agree with your statements concerning the Christians fleeing Europe to America to escape persecution. But, I don't hold to the woman in (Rev. 12) being the Church. I believe the woman is Israel. She gives birth to the male child Christ. (12:5-6) And, she is preserved miraculously by God during the last half of the Tribulation period.

As to the woman, the great whore, in (Rev. 17), I do not believe her to be the Roman Church. I believe she will be a mixture of all false 'Christian religion' which has the form but not the life. Not the Spirit. This will be composed of both Roman and Protestant religions.

Thus I don't see America in Biblical prophecy.

Stranger

bbyrd009 · May 11, 2018

brakelite said:
And if you look carefully enough, you will find that very thing described in prophecy concerning America...in Revelation 12 we read of a woman being persecuted then chased by the dragon. Vs 12-14. It says she fled into the wilderness. The woman is the church...in the 16th to the 18th centuries escaping the papal persecutions in Europe, she fled to America...then a wilderness as far as the gospel is concerned. The earth (vs 16) swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out after her. In Revel. 13 we read of a beast coming up out of the earth. Vs 11. Beasts are nations. All the other beasts in prophecy rose from the sea...which Revel. 17 tells us are peoples nations and tongues...vast populated areas of strife and war...but here a beast comes up with two horns like a lamb (peaceful and non-violent in her infancy) in a wilderness or earth as opposed to the sea. This new nation swallowed the church escaping Europe as you say and gave refuge to her. The vomit of false doctrines of Rome were swallowed up in the new world and Protestantism flourished. Unfortunately, the beast did not take long to begin speaking (through her legislative institutions) like the dragon. While giving the appearance of innocency underneath a dark shadow grew and is developing today into the false prophet who will direct the world into submission to the first beast...antichrist...the Papal led NWO; the woman (Rome) riding the state beast forming Babylon the Great.

you'll find that works fine for hindsight, but not so good for future-telling prolly

Reggie Belafonte · May 11, 2018

Triumph1300 said:
A nursing graduate at Colorado Mesa University was told she could not mention Jesus or read a Bible verse during remarks she was supposed to deliver at a pinning ceremony.
The university made it clear that references to Jesus would not be tolerated.

Political correctness hates all opposition to it's gods and that's why it dictates what you can mention or do.
Political Correctness was first created buy Communist in Russia and then Hitler's Germany adopted and peddled this Satanic formula, it worked wonders with the people, who swallowed it hook line and sinker because it feeds on the ego.
You see people who idolise it have great worship of it and it controls their life and anyone who looks down on it or bags it's nonsense, they get irate and go into a fit if you point out the folly of their delusion.
People who swallow Political correctness are shallow people with little foresight or any true foundations in their life and as such they have no roots and this pox destroys people body and soul as their ego rules totally in some fantasy land where words will hurt you and the name Jesus offends just like it did with the Jews who were mislead by such works of Satan.

Hitler's Nazi Socialist and all the Communist intent want to control the whole world.

The NWO is the same Socialist Communist attempt to control the whole world by Satanic power mad grubs who want to enslave the world.

If we vision the left and right wing as if it were a rope on the ground and the ends represent the far right and the other side the far left, one thinks that these are poles apart, but in fact they are not, so we join both together and look at it as if it were a clock, 12' o clock is where they both meet and this represents the extremely wealthy at say 11 o' clock to 12 on the right and the extreme left Communist at 12 o' clock to one o' clock.
Fact is they work together in fooling the masses and they are smart cookies to be sure because this all works well for them to control all the goyim or what they call their cattle, you understand.

Now I am ok with sitting at any where from 6 o' clock or between 4 o' clock to 8 o' clock because I don't buy their games but I know all their workings and most people would sit were I do but they don't understand the working that delude them, so they will sit to the left of this or to the right, giving them power. it's a two party system based on this principle and they will both work against a 3rd sitting at 3 o' clock to 9 o' clock because that would be the end of there madness of manipulation.
But if I got my way and educated the people to understand how they are manipulated then 11 o' clocks to one o' clocks days are numbered and seen for the great Satan that they are, that is leading the whole world astray for their madness to enslave all under their insane evil madness.

When one is born again you don't need the 2ed coming, you have arrived where Jesus wanted you, Jesus is not coming in the flesh, but in the Holy Spirit to dwell with you.

Reggie Belafonte · May 11, 2018

Stranger said:
I agree. I do not think the U.S. is in Bible prophecy. I believe God has used the U.S to be a haven for Christians and Jews until the end times. Not only did the Christian America provide a haven here, but she also was the only nation powerful enough to deter other nations from attacking the Jews in Israel while God once again began peopling that land with Jews. Thus I think our downfall, which we presently are in, will coincide with the rise of anti-christianity in our land, as well as the rise of European unity, and the positioning of Russia in it's desire to attack Israel.

In other words, it is my belief that God's purpose for the U.S is about finished. Once we are gone, either literally due to war or some catastrophe from God, Israel will then be forced to make treaties and alliances with the united Europe for her survival. And of course from there comes the anti-christ. And somewhere during that time Russia will attack Israel.

Russia is found in Scripture as Gog and Magog. The attack upon Israel is found in (Ez. 38-39).

Stranger

True Christianity is Israel and Jesus Christ is the King of Israel and it's under attack or being undermined by Satan the one who leads the whole world astray.

The State named or claiming to be Israel is totally worthless only about 10% of all follow the OT and the rest are just Satanist in fact and the true Jews claim this is a fact but the media does not tell the world that is the case, but the State was created so that the People who are truly religious OT Jews would have a place so not to be persecuted in, but the fact is they are persecuted in their own State by the Satanic morons who have bastardised this and the true OT Jews are pissed off at all the bastardising the State, as anyone would know this is a fact if you only looked into it all and they totally reject it is Israel, as the top devout religious Jews say this is so !
The true Jews hope for it to be Israel ! but they know it's not, but reject Christ Jesus because they are blinded.

Stranger · May 11, 2018

Reggie Belafonte said:
True Christianity is Israel and Jesus Christ is the King of Israel and it's under attack or being undermined by Satan the one who leads the whole world astray.

The State named or claiming to be Israel is totally worthless only about 10% of all follow the OT and the rest are just Satanist in fact and the true Jews claim this is a fact but the media does not tell the world that is the case, but the State was created so that the People who are truly religious OT Jews would have a place so not to be persecuted in, but the fact is they are persecuted in their own State by the Satanic morons who have bastardised this and the true OT Jews are pissed off at all the bastardising the State, as anyone would know this is a fact if you only looked into it all and they totally reject it is Israel, as the top devout religious Jews say this is so !
The true Jews hope for it to be Israel ! but they know it's not, but reject Christ Jesus because they are blinded.

No, Christianity is not Israel. Yes, Jesus Christ is the King of Israel.

It doesn't matter how many Jews follow their own Old Testament at this time. It is God Who is behind creating the 'state' of Israel. And He will supply the believers in Israel at the appointed time. But He creates the state first to give them their place.

The Jews are blinded by God until the time appointed.

Stranger

Reggie Belafonte · May 11, 2018

Stranger said:
No, Christianity is not Israel. Yes, Jesus Christ is the King of Israel.

It doesn't matter how many Jews follow their own Old Testament at this time. It is God Who is behind creating the 'state' of Israel. And He will supply the believers in Israel at the appointed time. But He creates the state first to give them their place.

The Jews are blinded by God until the time appointed.

Stranger

It was in fact Hitler who created the State, with out his crap their would never of been such a State did you know that.

Why would God bring a mob that were vomited out, back in ? they have not changed they still want to kill Jesus.

Why are you putting your faith in men ? you are rejecting the Holy Spirit !

Blind faith is totally worthless, oh one who totally rejects Jesus will one day turn BS, they did not turn when Jesus was murdered so why would they now.
Not to mention they call you a Christian their cattle, do you understand what is meant by Goyim. ?It means you are their nigger slave to be kicked around as they want and do you know why they will mistreat you, because they hate your guts for being a idiot who can't see jack, a blind pathetic moronic fool, that does not even know that you are being taken for a ride, your incompetence is astounding to them, they can rob you blind and you still don't know it, your Nation is subservient to them, they have created a totally BS system of currency that's built on just total corruption and lies, the value worth it's all hot air and they can crash it at will at any tick of the clock.
I know such people well and how they think and seen how thy have dealt with people over the years.
What about Germany before WW2 they wanted their land back after 20 years and people were in raged that they would wish there old borders back, no no no ! they said we will go to war and 60 million people will die and not to mention all the rest of the BS people had to suffer, but with the Jews we are talking about 2000 years and that's all ok and totally fine and anyone who rejects this is looked down on as a monster, while the Jews force Muslims of the land they have been on for 2000 years, I wonder why the Muslims are not to keen on them.
Look at USA the Jews were behind treating the local Indians the way they did and all the cunning Treaty's not to mention our Abos in Australia with gold up north QLD were the Abos were just cast aside with total greed that they had to eat Chines to survive.

No the Jews are evil Satanic trash, in fact they reject Jesus, one must be under a Curse not to be able to see such.
How this you say, Howdy Jew, Jew says, he sees you as a fool and rejects Jesus openly and you say I worship you Jews regardless, even before Jesus Christ and all truly but I only say lord lord I am at his left hand but you Jew I am truly at your right hand.

How is it that you can worship the basted Jew who despises you and Jesus ? when you should be informing the Jew he is lost and that the OT is finished and that the NT is the only way or ever will be the way for ever.

I have had Political Correct dolts 'Satanist' claiming rubbish like the first Testament and the 2ed Testament, like as if their is going to be a 3rd ? even our moronic Premier of QLD said it in a speech at her RCC old School and all the morons did not click to the out right Blaspheme of such a Satanic stance, how she must of laughed at the pettiness of such dim whited bunch of dolts.

If anyone believes that the second coming is going to be the 3rd Testament you are totally mislead and are rejecting Jesus Christ in fact, not to mention never followed him.

truthquest · May 11, 2018

"ByGrace" said:
It has amazed me just how many Christians seem blind to the world happenings around them.

Maybe they are too distracted by things in life. They might be busy trying to make a living, provide for their family, with little time left after a long day at work to really notice what's happening and why. There are so many distractions. And that's the plan to keep us distracted and divert attention away from those who are pushing for a NWO and exactly what they are doing to make it happen. They are masters of deception with power, wealth and control.

They make their plans in secret in hidden places, in dark places. But they can't hide from God.
Jer. 23:24 "Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?" declares the LORD. "Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?" declares the LORD.
Isa. 29:15 Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the LORD, who do their work in darkness and think, "Who sees us? Who will know?"
Isa. 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
John 8:44 “You are from your father The Devil, and the desire of your father you are willing to do; from the beginning he has been murdering men and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him; whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from what is his, because he is of falsehood and is also its father.”
Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

They imagine a vain thing
Ps. 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing. 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4He that sits in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall he speak to them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Do not trust in man
Ps. 146:3 Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation. 4 His spirit departs, he returns to the earth; In that very day his thoughts perish. 5 How blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob, Whose hope is in the LORD his God,

Spiritual Warfare
Eph. 6:10Therefore, my brethren, be strengthened in Our Lord and in the force of his power. 11 And put on all the armor of God, so that you can stand against the strategies of The Devil. 12 Because your fight has not been with flesh and blood, but with Principalities and The Rulers and The Powers of this dark world and with wicked spirits which are under Heaven. 13 Because of this, put on all the armor of God that you shall be able to confront The Evil One, and when you are ready in all things, you shall stand.

Joy, hope and peace
Rom. 15:13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Helen · May 12, 2018

@truthquest Amen! Yes indeed.

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