What is the trinity?

Father,Son and Holy Ghost....yes in a word.......no in another word depends on who you ask...

Mark of what? "The Beast?" Is that what your talking about? Better tell it to about a couple million Lutherans then cause I bet they don't know it....and any other denomination that believes in it...

The early Christians believed it and the idea as understood by most of Christianity today was developed over several centuries from the teachings of Jesus, the Apostles and the study of scriptures. So yes. in a sense it is biblical because it is derived at least in part from the Bible. Because the "full" concept was derived, you will not find it fully explained in the Bible, which some take as justification to claim it is not biblical.What is it? This 4th century creed evolved at least in part to explain what the Trinity is (and is not). Bolded some of the highlights of the Trinity;We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead, whose kingdom shall have no end. And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And we believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Good post Doc.........

(DrBubbaLove;39964)
The early Christians believed it and the idea as understood by most of Christianity today was developed over several centuries from the teachings of Jesus, the Apostles and the study of scriptures. So yes. in a sense it is biblical because it is derived at least in part from the Bible. Because the "full" concept was derived, you will not find it fully explained in the Bible, which some take as justification to claim it is not biblical.What is it? This 4th century creed evolved at least in part to explain what the Trinity is (and is not). Bolded some of the highlights of the Trinity;We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead, whose kingdom shall have no end. And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And we believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
The Early Christians didn't believe in a Trinity, the Early Christians were very Jewish, the Believe Yeshua HaMashiach was the Father, Dwelling in His Son, who was the Child of the Holy Ghost, Matthew 1:18. Who is the Father and Holy is the Holy GHOST? The Same Person or else the Father is another Father of Jesus Christ, so Jesus Would have two Fathers. Now Chapter 14 Of John helps explain, and I'M TRYING TO REASON HERE, so bare with Me.Verse 6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.He has Declared that he is the Great YHWH and that only through Him is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.Verse 7.If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.The Face of Jesus Was the Face of the Father, the Father has no form.Verse 10. Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.Jesus IS the Word of God (John1:1), So he was in the Father, Before a Word is expressed, it's a thought, and the Thought when expressed is a Word. Jesus IS THE WORD, when it Says he was in the Father, the Thoughts of the Father were his Words, so the Word was in the Father. The Father Dwells in the Son(Colossians 2:9).Now Verse 17. Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.The Spirit of Truth is the Holy Ghost. The World Couldn't see Him, Neither knew him. But the Disciples KNEW THE HOLY GHOST, BECAUSE HE WAS LIVING WITH THEM (John 1:14), and On the Day of Pentecost Dwelled in Them.The Same Father and Holy Ghost, were all in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ, was not a Separated Person from the Godhead. He was the Fullness of the Godhead Bodily Colossians 2:9. He is Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever, Hebrews 13:8.

If you take scripture for what it is...Then I always like to use John 1:1 and 1John 5:7

(Unorthodox Christian;39994)
The Early Christians didn't believe in a Trinity, the Early Christians were very Jewish, the Believe Yeshua HaMashiach was the Father, .
Many of the first Christians were Jews, but that should not surprise anyone. All the Apostles and Jesus are Jews. Judaism is the root of Christianity. But that does not mean Christianity has to mirror exactly a Hebrew understanding of God the Father and the Messiah. In case you have not noticed we are not waiting for a Messiah and neither were the earliest (JEWISH) Christians BTW.I do not agree that the first century Christians had no part of the concept of the Trinity as a basic understanding of God, His Nature, or who the Father, Jesus and the Spirit are. The first century writings of the Apostles teachings (DIDACHE) indicate they were already using the Trinitarian form for Baptism. The same form used today by all Trinitarians. By the end of the first century we can see the beginning of the development of what would BECOME the Trinity doctrine and these things being taught by men who were trained and told to teach these things by an Apostle. It would take a long time for that development to finish.So of course it goes without saying that they could not fully express the doctrine of the Trinity in the first century because it had not developed yet and would not do so for almost three centuries. It would be silly to expect them to. You make a case for the Trinitarian doctrine being "developed" (which no one denies) but not a case that no first century Christian had any notion of the concept. Clearly they did from their writings (and I think that examples of that have already been posted in this thread).

(DrBubba)
Many of the first Christians were Jews, but that should not surprise anyone. All the Apostles and Jesus are Jews. Judaism is the root of Christianity. But that does not mean Christianity has to mirror exactly a Hebrew understanding of God the Father and the Messiah. In case you have not noticed we are not waiting for a Messiah and neither were the earliest (JEWISH) Christians BTW.
YES IT DOES BROTHER. Malachi 3:6 God Does not Change. Hebrews 13:8 Yeshua HaMashiach, the same yesterday, today and forever.When Paul Spoke in Greek, or Jesus in Aramaic, they spoke with a Hebrew Understanding, or Jewish Idioms. Like Mark 10:18, When he asked the Man, why do you call me good? Only God is Good. Speaking in a Jewish Idiom, all things good are of God, cause God is absolute GOOD, so in order for Jesus to be good, that means the man is acknowledging that he is GOD.So It's imperative that we take the New TESTAMENT with that same Approach we do reading the Old TESTAMENT. Now Brother, I have presented to you just a small portion of why the Trinity is refuted, why it's man made, LOOK AT WHAT YOU SAID YOURSELF.
So of course it goes without saying that they could not fully express the doctrine of the Trinity in the first century because it had not developed yet and would not do so for almost three centuries.[
So this Dogma was formed by a Creed brother. PAUL being an Apostle and Prophet of GOD believed in the FULLNESS of ONE GOD. Not a Triunity of Three in One. But One God, in three Manifestations, occupying each manifestation, ONE ROLE, ONE PERSON, NOT DISTINCTION. God the Father in the Old Testament, God the Son in the Time on Earth, the Holy Ghost after Pentecost and Now. But all God, Under one Name Jesus Christ. You can say that the Early Church baptized with a Trinitarian forum, PAUL BEING A PROPHET OF GOD BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF ONE, LORD JESUS CHRIST. ACTS 19.Now Irenaeus, a Disciple of Poly Carp, and Overseer in Smyrna, also a Disciple of John the Revelator, did not believe such Trinity!Irenaeus was actually against Paganistic and Gnostic incorporations into ChristianityHERE'S A LINK

(eradicator;40056)
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, AND OF THE SON, and of the Holy Ghost:I could only find one scripture in the Bible that looks like they were baptizing in trinity mode. I have looked at the scripture very carefully and came up with a couple of my opinions about it. I noticed that it was Jesus who was speaking here. I also noticed that the scripture was explaining to baptize people in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. It seems these are just titles and God wants them to baptize people in the name of those three titles. It seems here that there is either three different names we must find.But when I look at any other scripture out there telling the person to baptize in the name, it always states to use the Lord Jesus. So my conclusion to my opinion is this. All of the three titles have to be named Jesus, which also makes me believe there is no trinity. This is my opinion.
And that is ok, many have held that opinion even in the early Christian days, which is why referencing those discussions (ancient version of this forum) would be relevant in considering what Christians believed.

Agree Doc.....

Eradicator,BTW if I understood your response the first people to hold such a view where called Monarchians or more formerly "Modalist" as in Father, Son and Holy Ghost are just different "modes" for God as opposed to three distinct Persons. The Church fought against this idea and label it a heresy in the late 2nd and early 3rd century. You can google to read the wiki version or get Church's side of that story here;http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10448a.htm

Unorthodox,As with Eradicator, the view you suggest sounds to me like some form of Modalism, which was declared a heresy in the second century, hundreds of years BEFORE there was a Trinity doctrine. You can google Modalism or Monarchians to confirm the connection, the Catholic view of that subject is discussed here; http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10448a.htmIt is still considered a heresy today to suggest that Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one in the same, just different “roles” or “modes” of One God being addressed by different names rather than a belief in Three Persons.Here are quotes from people preceding both Polycarp and Irenaeus in time, but I include two quotes from them as well. I do not know how to read all these quotes and claim these people are talking about only one Person. Saint Barnabas (about A.D. 74) http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0124.htmAnd further, my brethren: if the Lord endured to suffer for our soul, He being Lord of all the world, to whom God said at the foundation of the world, "Let us make man after our image, and after our likeness," Genesis 1:26 understand how it was that He endured to suffer at the hand of men.Hermas (about A.D. 80) http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02013.htm" The Son of God is older than all His creatures, so that He was a fellow-councillor with the Father in His work of creation: for this reason is He old.Saint Ignatious (about A.D. 110) http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0104.htmIgnatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church which is at Ephesus, in Asia, deservedly most happy, being blessed in the greatness and fulness of God the Father, and predestinated before the beginning of time, that it should be always for an enduring and unchangeable glory, being united and elected through the true passion by the will of the Father, and Jesus Christ, our God: Abundant happiness through Jesus Christ, and His undefiled grace. Ignatius again http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0105.htmJesus Christ, who was with the Father before the beginning of time, and in the end was revealed…There is one Jesus Christ, than whom nothing is more excellent. Therefore run together as into one temple of God, as to one altar, as to one Jesus Christ, who came forth from one Father, and is with and has gone to one. ……..On this account also they were persecuted, being inspired by His grace to fully convince the unbelieving that there is one God, who has manifested Himself by Jesus Christ His Son, who is His eternal Word, not proceeding forth from silence, and who in all things pleased Him that sent Him.Saint Polycarp about to be killed for his faith (about A.D. 155) http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0102.htmAmong whom may I be accepted this day before You as a fat and acceptable sacrifice, according as You, the ever-truthful God, hast foreordained, hast revealed beforehand to me, and now hast fulfilled. Wherefore also I praise You for all things, I bless You, I glorify You, along with the everlasting and heavenly Jesus Christ, Your beloved Son, with whom, to You, and the Holy Ghost, be glory both now and to all coming ages. Amen."Saint Irenaeus (about (AD 189) http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103110.htm“The Church, though dispersed through our the whole world, even to the ends of the earth, has received from the apostles and their disciples this faith: [She believes] in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them; and in one Christ Jesus, the Son of God, who became incarnate for our salvation; and in the Holy Spirit, who proclaimed through the prophets the dispensationsof God, and the advents, and the birth from a virgin, and the passion, and the resurrection from the dead, and the ascension into heaven in the flesh of the beloved Christ Jesus, our Lord, and His [future] manifestation from heaven in the glory of the Father "to gather all things in one," Ephesians 1:10 and to raise up anew all flesh of the whole human race, in order that to Christ Jesus, our Lord, and God, and Saviour, and King, according to the will of the invisible Father, "every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth,”While it is true none of these quotes fully expresses the Trinity Doctrine each of the above quotes clearly expresses one or more points of it. And several (including Polycarp and Irenaeus) directly contradict the views of both Eradicator and yourself. AAgain we stress we are talking about people who were writing from over 300 to at least 200 years BEFORE the full doctrine of the Trinity is defined. People are entitled to opinions and one should expect along the way during the process of developing a doctrine that various opinions be expressed, even conflicting ones. Some of these men even expressed opinions that strictly speaking could later be deemed heretical or at least vague enough to be considered dangerous. However all of these men did express various aspects of what would later become the Trinity Doctrine and they clearly express ideas that refute any possible endorsement of Modalism on their part. You can’t be talking about different people as these men did and in the same breath claim you did not mean people just different roles with different names.

THE TRINITY: Yahweh is the TRIUNE God"University" = unity plus diversity. Conceived for the USA seal in 1776, "E Pluribus Unum" = out of many (diversity), one. The philosopher's dream is for a proper mankind is "unity in diversity". We have an example in the divine realm in Christianity in the Divine Trinity (not the Satanic trinity). Our God exists simultaneously as 3 persons, all 3 of whom are in constant existence...having always been in constant existence (never created). The first indication is in Genesis in 1:1 with "God" being the plural name Elohim and then Genesis 1:26, "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness'..." Both Elohim and Adonai, in Hebrew, are examples of "compound unity" names...indicating "several or many in one". Take the verse Deuteronomy 6:4 where Moses said, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our GOD is one LORD." In Hebrew it is, "Shema Israel, Adonai Elohenu, Adonai, Echad." The Jews call this verse the SHEMA. The SHEMA shows us that God, Elohim, is a UNITY in PLURALITY. The Hebrew word Elohim is a plural form, being a UNITY in PLURALITY. The "ELOHENU" of the SHEMA is "our God" and is a plural word form. The "Adonai," The Lord, is also a plural word. So the SHEMA clearly identifies God as a plural unity. The final word in the SHEMA is Echad and this settles it once and for all because Echad is a "compound unity" meaning "several or many in one." Yachid is another Hebrew word for "one" and it means "an absolute, indivisible unity." Because yachid is used hundreds of times in the Hebrew of the Old Testament Bible, it is never used to describe the "oneness" of God...echad is used. We must keep clearly in mind that Moses was, himself, one of the great men of the entire history of mankind...surely with intellect and knowledge on a par with the greatest minds of human history. He was given personal instruction by God; so, it is inconceivable that Moses was simply careless in his choice of words. The word "Trinity" is never used in the Bible, and the doctrine of trinitarianism is never explicitly taught in the Bible (the Holy Scriptures). The doctrine is put fourth through correlating Biblical themes and evidence. The emperor Constantine called a council of 318 bishops at Nicaea in 325AD to hammer out church variations of the doctrine of the Trinity...(unfortunately, the effort was marred by political pressure by Constantine) the result being a 316 to 2 vote in favor of the Athanasian position that God and Jesus are of one substance (resulting in the Niceen Creed...affirmed/ratified at council of Rome in 341 & council of Constantinople of 381). God variously exists/functions as The Father, The Son (Jesus), and The Holy Spirit (The Holy Ghost). As to Jesus, The Savior: a savior not quite God would be like a bridge broken at its farther end, and one not quite human like a bridge broken at its beginning. So, pay close attention! Essential elements of the Trinity are: God is one (Christianity is not polytheistic). Each of the 3 within the "Godhead" is deity...not created. The one-ness of God and the three-ness of God are not contradictory. The Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is eternal. Each of the 3 is of the same/equal essence, none being superior or inferior to another. Each person of the Trinity is different in function and personhood, not one person with 3 modes. God did not become incarnate, Jesus did; so we don't thank the Father for dying on the Cross. Jesus was begotten but not created. Jesus, fully God, became incarnate (John 1:14...the Word became flesh) as fully human (body, soul, & spirit...otherwise he would not be an actual redeemable human & could not have qualified as The Redeemer). Jesus the God-man: Name The FATHER The SON The HOLY GHOST Yahweh ; "I AM" Jesus of Nazareth Holy Spirit as to:divine essencethe FATHER: each same...He is the Head; God is "one"the SON: each same...was a man for 30+ years & God is the Head of Jesus;God is "one"...Jesus is God (Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1; Romans 1:5; Hebrews 1:8)the HOLY Spirit: each same...H. S. not man-like, came like a rushing wind;God is "one"as to a vineyard example (John 15:1-8)the FATHER: is the gardener who prunesthe SON: the main vine [the true vine] (people are the branches) the HOLY Spirit: not mentionedas to:fundamental rolesthe FATHER: has The Will, the agendathe SON: is perfectly obedient; to the mission, shepherd, and be The Head of believers.the HOLY Spirit: is perfectly obedient; is enabler of persons to become (say "yes") and be believers; is a promise of the Father (Luke 24); is a gift to every believer (Acts 2:38)as to presence in the lives of God's chosen peoplethe FATHER:BC: present but spoke thru prophetsAD: present but speaks thru The Word, prayer, circumstances, and the churchthe SON:BC: present but not realized & not incarnateAD: has all authority on heaven and earth and is the Head of The Churchthe HOLY Spirit:BC: did not indwell all of the chosen; He only came upon especially chosen individuals for God's purposesAD: He indwells each believer (by doing so He baptizes & causes the new birth) and is the agent by whom God "speaks"as to: the truth of a person's profession of Christian faiththe FATHER: simply desires (and set the way) for all to be saved and "draws" toward saving beliefthe SON:died to cancel sin for all & to redeem all; is author of one's faith; convicts of need to say "yes" to Jesus belief; only one knowing sincerity of profession(Matthew 5:21)the HOLY Spirit: enables to say "yes" to salvationas to: eternalitythe FATHER: yes, Psalms 90:2the SON: yes, John 1:2 Revelations 1:8, 1:17the HOLY Spirit: yes, Hebrews 9:14as to: powerthe FATHER: yes, equal: I Peter 1:5the SON: yes, equal: 2 Corinthians 12:9the HOLY Spirit: yes, equal: Romans 15:19as to the WAYS of Godthe FATHER: as to the WAYS of Godthe SON: lived the example and spoke of the ways of Godthe HOLY Spirit: instructs one as to the ways of Godas to the believer's intimate relationship with Jesusthe FATHER: wills itthe SON: desires it for you and leads into knowledge of itthe HOLY Spirit: enables the believer into the relationship and as to the mind of Christas to: holinessthe FATHER: equal, Revelations 15:4the SON: equal, Acts 3:14the HOLY Spirit: equal, Acts 1:8as to: lovethe FATHER: originator of love; His nature is love; possesses the will to extend love; is love I John 4:16the SON: is the embodiment of love on earth & commands & leads to love of othersthe HOLY Spirit: the conduit for pouring out love into the believer's heartRomans 8:26-28 & works to enable love for othersas to: omnisciencethe FATHER: yes, total, 100% Jeremiah 17:10the SON: yes, 99.99999% Revelations 2:23 (Jesus doesn't know the time of His return...only the Father knows); John 14:28; Mark 13:32; John 5:19; & I Corinthians 15:28)the HOLY Spirit: yes, 99.99999% I Corinthians 2:11 (only the Father knows the time of Christ's return)as to: benevolence the FATHER: thru it, God leads man toward repentance, toward "belief"Romans 2:4the SON: thru God's benevolence, Jesus cleanses believer, Ephesians 5:25the HOLY Spirit: thru God's benevolence, the Spirit instructs and enables the believer, Nehemiah 9:20as to: creation of the worldthe FATHER: He conceived it and created it Gen.. 1:1the SON: He was there from the beginning John 1:1-3, 10the HOLY Spirit: hovered over it at beginning Gen.. 1:2as to: creation of Manthe FATHER: formed the man Genesis 2:7 the SON: created man and man created for him Colossians 1:the HOLY Spirit: his breath gives man life Job 33:4 as to: death of Christthe FATHER: He conceived of and engineered the plan and agreed that such way was the only sufficient offset for the sins of mankindthe SON: He agreed to come to earth as a man, to play the role, to live and speak THE TRUTH, to be the Light of the world, and to undergo the details of all of the prophesies and suffer the death.the HOLY Spirit: He came 50 days later, at Pentecost, to indwell believers therefrom, on into all the future ages Acts 2:1as to:Sinthe FATHER: declared and defined sinthe SON: came to reveal sinthe HOLY Spirit: is always busy among people, and thru people and other means, urging the conviction of sin within the mind of a person (that person becomes CONVINCED...convicted)"shouts" a warning to the believer about to fall off courseas to redemption of mankindthe FATHER: willed the processthe SON: willingly came, fully as a man, as the Father's obedient servant to accomplish The Father's willthe HOLY Spirit: came onto Jesus (as enablement ?...John 5:19) at his baptism (Mark 1:9)as to salvation of an individual, rolethe FATHER: designates/foreknowledges The Electthe SON: paid the redemption price and "knocks on the door"...is the invitation to make a choice...for the "yes" hearer to say "yes"the HOLY Spirit: LEADS individual to Jesus:works thru those used to carry the Gospel that the message be conveyed...quickens the mind and spirit of the "hearer"...enables the "yes" hearer to hear..."saves" the "yes" hearer by enabling him to say yesas to prayerthe FATHER: loves, solicits, receives itthe SON: intercedes for the believer in behalf of it, as requestedthe HOLY Spirit: aids the believer in discerning what, how, and why to pray;will intercede for believer, as asked,when believer does not know how or what to pray; our helper in prayer.as to vengeancethe FATHER: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. Romans 12:19the SON: is a shield from it for the believerthe HOLY Spirit: no roleas to Judgmentthe FATHER: authority and measurer of proper appeasementthe SON: passes all final judgment (John 5:22 & 27)the HOLY Spirit: no roleas to spiritual giftsthe FATHER: no rolethe SON: no rolethe HOLY Spirit: distributes the particular gifts to particular believersas to the believer's glorification of Godthe FATHER: He desires it, receives it,and loves itthe SON: He intercedes and delivers it (John 15:5)the HOLY Spirit: He infuses the power to do so, originating in Jesus, into the believer (Philippians 4:13)as to God speaking to believersthe FATHER: He "speaks"the SON: He is the interceding linkthe HOLY Spirit: He resides within the believer and gives the message through The Word (scripture), prayer, circumstances, and the Church.as to knowing the will of God for yourselfthe FATHER: He "wills" that you know itthe SON: He loves you toward desiring to know itthe HOLY Spirit: He guides and enables you into seeing, hearing, understanding what God's will is & what the mind of Christ is as to God's willas to doing the will of God for yourselfthe FATHER: it is His will that you come to know itthe SON: He loves you toward desiring to do itthe HOLY Spirit: He enables you to say "yes" in your decision to do it and enables you to do it.as to:the local churchthe FATHER: has His will for itthe SON: is the Head of itthe HOLY Spirit: manifests himself as the enabler within each believer for actions and experiences toward the common good of "the body of believers"...the church I Corinthians 12 Acts 2:38as to: Resurrection from deaththe FATHER: He wills that the children of God come to Him and His kingdom after their death (has possibly willed that all come to Him)the SON: He is the actual mechanism for the resurrection of God's children (John 11:25)the HOLY Spirit:

amen I think

@Doc, I don't believe in Modalism, there's a Reason Modalism was Considered Heresy. Modalism is quite far from what I believe. Modalists believe that God is three Modes, but He is only active in One, when Patrolling one Mode. I BELIEVE HE OCCUPIES THESE SO CALLED "MODES" AT ALL TIMES. Which would then mean I too, am against Modalism. I HATE TO LABELING God anything. Trinity, Oneness, Modalist, Unitarian. HE IS THE FULLNESS OF GOD, JESUS CHRIST THAT IS. He is the Father, Isaiah 9:6, He is the Son of God, Luke 1:35, Jesus Christ is the Holy Ghost, John 14:17.If You can truly call yourself a Christian, or Catholic for any matter, and Deny that Jesus Christ is the Father, You are taking away from what the Bible Says.

Unorthodox,Modalism is a general term and can be applied to several variations of the same theme. Sorry, but think the term fits, whether one sees it as modes, manifestations, roles, facets, faces....etc of One God the term applies to all of that. In an earlier post you said roles and then manifestations. Look up modalism Monarchianism and Sabellianism on wiki, I think you will find your view detailed in there at some point. Today some people call it Oneness theology, but nothing is really unique to distinguish this from what people in the first and second centuries were labeled heretics for.