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Next I kind of ‘floated’ into the Great House ..we were all gathered in a huge hall…people were sitting in many rows, just waiting for the Master of the house to come.

Sorry to keep pestering you, LoL, but while I have you: Did you get the sense that ALL the people who were working for the Master (i.e. in the gardens, orchards, and fields) were assembled here, or just the ones working in the rose gardens?
 

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Sorry to keep pestering you, LoL, but while I have you: Did you get the sense that ALL the people who were working for the Master (i.e. in the gardens, orchards, and fields) were assembled here, or just the ones working in the rose gardens?

NO, none of them were...all these were dress up in kind of "Sunday best".

No worries, ..I like being "pestered " :)
 

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So then you got the impression they were workers only from the rose garden?

Actually I didn't have that impression...more like some were house workers....because the ones working in the rose garden weren't 'dressed up', but casual. Not sure were these came from ...
 

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Actually I didn't have that impression...more like some were house workers....because the ones working in the rose garden weren't 'dressed up', but casual. Not sure were these came from ...

Ok, that helps. So these were other people possibly working inside the house itself then?
 

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Ok, that helps. So these were other people possibly working inside the house itself then?

I wasn't given to "know" this...but I had the impression that all those outside the house were still working where I left them , when we entered the Hall.

I was not conscious of ever seeing these people before.
 
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I wasn't given to "know" this...but I had the impression that all those outside the house were still working where I left them , when we entered the Hall.

I was not conscious of seeing these people before.

Vital detail. Thanks for being patient. This particular aspect of the dream is key to understanding what it is communicating.

Hopefully I can have something written up for you in a day or two. The teaching has parts to it that are not normally well understood by modern Christians (especially positions of kingship in eternity), but I should be able to cite enough scriptures to make this plain enough.

Thanks again!
 

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Vital detail. Thanks for being patient. This particular aspect of the dream is key to understanding what it is communicating.

Hopefully I can have something written up for you in a day or two. The teaching has parts to it that are not normally well understood by modern Christians (especially positions of kingship in Heaven), but I should be able to cite enough scriptures to make this plain enough.

Thanks again!

THANK YOU...and no rush...as you mentioned yesterday... it's been a long long time anyway.
This has been tucked in my bible, and once in a while I muse over it. Or sometimes the Lord brings it back to me. :)
 
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Ok, ByGrace. The subject of this dream is about the rewards that will come to Christian leaders who were faithful to their call as stewards of God, and the judgments that will come to those who are not. It is about those to whom He will say “well done, good and faithful servant,” and those to whom He will say to His angels, “cast the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 25:21, 23, 30). It is actually an accurate representation of the entire discourse taught by Jesus to His disciples in Matthew 24:45 all the way through Matthew 25:46, which is all one continuous teaching. This makes it remarkable, because few at the present time understand all of these parables together in their proper context.

Because this interpretation exceeds 1000 words, I will divide it up into two parts; the servants outside the house working in the gardens and fields, and the servants working inside the house itself and waiting on their rewards. Let me start from the beginning.

Part, 1: The Servants In The Gardens And Fields
Back in the 1980's I had this dream.
I see it as vividly now as I did then.

This is again set during the same era as other dreams posted at this Forum so far: The rise of the megachurch movement, when Christianity was especially becoming mass-produced, and both the membership and its leaders were becoming increasingly superficial.
In my dream I saw a huge old English Stately Home set in wonderful gardens and lands... I was standing in a rose garden which was very close to the House...I was just outside a very large window.
All around the House itself were red and white rose bushes, I ‘knew’ within me that The Master of the House loved his roses best of all.

The house here is the house of the Lord, i.e. His family. The rose is mentioned in particular in Song of Solomon in reference to His beloved bride, hence the roses are a reference to His bride in the earth. He favors two kinds especially: The red represent those who are passionate for Him ("You must love the Lord with your whole heart, mind, soul and strength), and the white for those who are dedicated to Him in purity ("The pure in heart shall see God"). The allusion to roses is also in reference to sweet smelling savors offered up to God (Exodus 25:31). The rose is especially fragrant, which means these characteristics are especially pleasing to the Lord.
The peace and anointing on this place was wonderful..yet… I knew that 'for me' the blessing wasn’t to be in the rose gardens close to the house, but to be within the house, but not just in the House but to be in the Master's study....His private sacred place. It was a large study with heavy velvet curtains... I knew that was where I internally ached to be…His Presence was in that study. And I must be there.

The “place of study” is where He is especially intimate with His bride, by speaking to her revelation and teaching directly from His lips. This is why the hearts of those who love Him ache to be there. There are romantic allusions here to the story of the Queen of Sheba coming to hear the words of Solomon in 1 Kings 10:4-7, and again the rose is most closely associated with romance and intimacy, through which we receive from Him directly while in His very Presence.
As I looked around the gardens I saw some people "looking like" they were tending and keeping the rose garden, but what some were actually doing was just touching a rose here and a rose there (faking it)... only a few were actually working, weeding and pruning the bushes.

“Touching” here refers to flattery, as opposed to “weeding and pruning,” which speak of correcting what needs to be corrected, or in other words the real work of the ministry (Mark 4:7, John 15:2-6). Proverbs 24:30-34 is also interesting in light of this:

“I went past the field of a sluggard,
past the vineyard of someone who has no sense;
thorns had come up everywhere,
the ground was covered with weeds,
and the stone wall was in ruins.

This describes much of ministry today just as it was when you received this dream. Many stand in positions of leadership and "look like" they are tending His rose garden, but they are merely speaking flatteries instead of rebuking sin in the Spirit of God (notice I said rebuking it, in Love, not condemning it in a spirit of hate). But many seeking to build a name for themselves and a following are not doing the work of the ministry. They are “faking it” as you say here.
I looked beyond the formal gardens and saw a small wall separating this garden from the next one…it was down three steps...a flower garden of every beautiful kind of flower… [Added from later post]: all neatly in their own area, none mixed, mostly blue shades.....with little paths between. As I write this, for the first time, I can see, that this pretty, smaller garden was the only place with no people working... hmmm. Yet it was far from the rose garden, house and study....I knew that I didn’t want to work there, as the Master didn't visit there much.

They are beautiful, and are indeed also tended by the Lord, but they are “farther away” from Him in both heart and spirit, which reflects that He takes less pleasure in them. That “the Master didn’t visit there much” is reference to the visitations of God (1 Peter 2:12, Luke 19:44). It also explains why there were not any workers there.
Beyond that were many orchards, people were busy up and down ladders picking and gathering apples and fruit…way beyond those orchards were field, lots and lots of fields …many, many people were working the fields , gathering in the crops. The thought of being that far from the rose garden, the house, and study where the Masters presence dwelled scared me internally.

This paragraph speaks of the harvest of the multitudes, and those working there. Notice the numbers: There were many working the orchards and multitudes working the fields. This is the same progression you see in the design of the Temple. A small space for the Holy of Holies (where only the High Priest believers can go), and larger space for the inner sanctuary (where the Priests of God can only go), and the largest space for the outer court (Where the multitudes, even Gentiles could enter during OT times). Hence, those far from God yet still in relationship with Him are the most numerous, and require the largest number of ministers to attend to them; those closer are less numerous and require less ministers to tend to them, and those extremely close to God are few.

That the thought of being far from the Master’s rose garden scared you is good. It meant you wanted to be among those who were close, not those who were far away.
 
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Part 2: The Stewards In The Household, Waiting On Rewards
Next I kind of ‘floated’ into the Great House ..we were all gathered in a huge hall… [added from later posts]: All these were dressed up in a kind of "Sunday best.” [They were] house workers... because the ones working in the rose garden weren't 'dressed up', but casual. I had the impression that all those outside the house were still working where I left them. People were sitting in many rows, just waiting for the Master of the house to come.

At the front was a large table, on one side of the table were lots of scrolls or deeds, each tied up with red ribbons. On the other side were many piles of gold coins. I kind of floated there behind the table.

The Master came in and opened a book…he ran his finger down the list, picked up either a pile of gold , or a scroll or deed, and walked over to the person and gave them either one thing or the other. He did this until everything on the table had been given out.

As you guessed, this represents when all come before Him in the Judgement, to receive either rewards or punishment. But understand: Now the vision has changed to describing His House Stewards, the highest servants in the household of God; His leaders (Matthew 24:45-51). This is THE primary passage being taught in this dream, which reads as follows:

“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delays his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looks not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, and shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

The scrolls represent deeds to areas of land, and therefore positions of kingship in the coming kingdom (Daniel 7:27, Revelation 5:10), whereas the piles of gold represent wisdom (the “true riches,” as described in passages like Proverbs 3:13-14 and Proverbs 19:9-10), and therefore positions as judges in the coming kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:1-3).
I was now annoyed and upset. I had seen that as he gave out the very last scroll, he had reached passed a lady that obviously thought it was for her, and placed it in the hand of the person sitting behind her. No more rewards or deeds were left on the table.

I said to him, "That is not fair....she has been here all these years..she has never left the grounds of your house.” He answered, “That is true, she has ‘been here’ all the time, but her heart has never been fully here, her heart has never done the work of a servant.” These were the only words that he ever spoke in the dream.

The words “the work of a servant” here are reminiscent of Matthew 20:25-28: “the greatest among you will be your servants.” Again, “the work of a servant” goes back to “touching” the roses yet not doing the real work of pruning or weeding them. As in real life, these are not the fun jobs. Most believers don’t like it when you prune them back or start pulling weeds they’ve grown “attached” to. It speaks of correcting others in love, something they don’t always like. But it is necessary work that must be done, and if you have the heart of a servant then you will do what is unpleasant, even if their thorns stick it to you in the process.
Then He walked over to the huge door…everyone was to follow. He opened the door and we all went outside. Again, He didn’t speak. He just raised His arm and pointed.

Beyond the big gates was a narrow road and hills beyond that …the people who had neither gold coins or scrolls in their hands lowered their heads and shuffled off together down the road toward the hills and far away, the rest turned and went back into the house with the Master and the door was closed.

The words “the door was closed” are reminiscent of Matthew 25:10 from the parable of the foolish virgins, “And while they went to buy, the Bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.” This parable immediately follows the Parable of the unrighteous stewards already quoted, and since it is all one continuous teaching it teaches the same thing your dream does: Positions of leadership over His household carry great responsibility. Thus, as I stated in one post early on, this parable is not about the body of Christ in general, but about those who are leaders over the church in particular. They are called to prepare the bride for her Bridegroom, by lighting the way for her properly.
Everyone (that really worked) were happy working just where the Master had placed them to work. Yet I also knew that within each one was the goal to work closer to the rose garden, the house, and closer to Him, it was almost painful to be away from Him.

This is a true testimony of the way things are in Heaven. And it is indeed painful to be distant from Him, which partly explains why there will eventually be weeping and gnashing of teeth for those who are completely cast out (Matthew 24:51).

I suppose that’s it. I can open it for questions if anyone has one.
 
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@Hidden In Him Thank you so much.
Other than my husband I have wanted to share that dream with someone for years.

I am amazed ( why I don't know, as it is your gifting :) ) that you could see so much more in it than I could...( again, your calling! )
Obviously I will print it off and read it over ( and over) slowly....lovely!

I do wonder why this dream, of all the dreams I have ever had...comes back to me so often, and is so vital, vivid and haunting....but not as haunting as it was for that first year. ( every time I got quiet to pray...back it would come..and I would be in it again..viewing it all..feeling it all...longing...)

Intersting.

Thank you again so much. Much of the 'types and symbolism' I did not even 'see'

Bless you.....Helen
 

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@Hidden In HimI do wonder why this dream, of all the dreams I have ever had...comes back to me so often, and is so vital, vivid and haunting....but not as haunting as it was for that first year. ( every time I got quiet to pray...back it would come..and I would be in it again..viewing it all..feeling it all...longing...)

Bless you.....Helen

I believe it is because this dream was strongly prophetic, and contains a massage that may outlive you. :) I know you are older, but I intend on being around for another 30 years, Lord willing, and I will in all likelihood be posting this elsewhere on Forums in the future, as a warning to the end-time church and those who will lead it. There are dangers involved (James 3:1) in assuming authority over His bride. I also plan on doing things like making Youtube videos, and one of them will probably be created specifically to teach this dream. As I said, it actually teaches Matthew Chapter 24 and 25 with astonishing accuracy, so you unquestionably received this from God. And it is a rather long dream too, which means it contains extended content the Lord desires to communicate to His people during the end-times.
 

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@Hidden In Him I never thought of anything like that.
Glad you will have opportunity to use it...

The only other thing I heard that confirmed this to me a number of years later, was a vision which came out of South America. ( I think..I don't remember ...don't quote me! :) )


In the vision a person saw or heard the Lord saying ...
Quote:-
" I have given out My invitation out to all, but all do not want the blessing.
Then there was a vision and the person saw 'God's blessing and invitation' as it were as many arches . Each beautiful arch going upward was more glorious than the arch below it..arch after glorious arch, after arch.., each more colourful more beautiful, more brilliant and greater in ascending size...

I knew that each arch was actually a part of God Himself..they were all "Him"
I felt a sadness, as I knew all had been offered a glorious part of Himself, but not all reached for being that glorious part of Him.
The invitation showed that we each can have as much or as little of Him as we choose.

It was as if God had invited us all to a happy special tea party, yet people did not want to come.

The invitation is still open...


End quote.

Those are the bones of the vision. I kept it in my bible for a long time. So I read it many times.
At the time I felt it witnessed to me , and it seemed so 'familiar.'
The vision may well still be in one of my bibles ......somewhere.

VERY late here...forgive any spelling mistake's etc .. Good night. H

PS I forgot to say..everyone had the opportunity to 'be/have/become' one of the arches. Yet most settled for the lower level, less glorious arches.
 
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Back in the 1980's I had this dream.
I see it as vividly now as I did then.



In my dream I saw a huge old English Stately Home set in wonderful gardens and lands. I was so aware that I wasn’t as it were ‘in' the dream, but kind of floating and obverting the dream as it was shown to me.
I could see everyone but I knew that they couldn’t see me…and I also knew that time was going by and years were clicking over. It seemed to last all night.



I was standing in a rose garden which was very close to the House...I was just outside a very large window.
All around the House itself were red and white rose bushes, I ‘knew’ within me that The Master of the House loved his roses best of all.
The peace and anointing on this place was wonderful..yet…I knew that 'for me' the blessing wasn’t to be in the rose gardens close to the house, but to be within the house, but not just in the House but to be in The Masters study....His private sacred place. It was a large study with heavy velvet curtains...
I looked through the window and saw a person cleaning His study and placing a red rose in a vase for Him. I knew that was where I internally ached to be…His Presence was in that study. And I must be there.



As I looked around the gardens I saw some people ' looking like' they were tending and keeping the rose garden, but what some were actually doing was just touching a rose here and a rose there ( faking it) ..only a few were actually working, weeding and pruning the bushes.
I looked beyond the formal gardens and saw a small wall separating this garden from the next one…it was down three steps...a flower garden of every beautiful kind of flower…yet it was far from the rose garden, house and study....I knew that I didn’t want to work there, as the Master didn't visit there much.


Beyond that were many orchards, people were busy up and down ladders picking and gathering apples and fruit…way beyond those orchards were field, lots and lots of fields …many, many people were working the fields , gathering in the crops. The thought of being that far from the rose garden, the house, and study where the Masters presence dwelled scared me internally.


Next I kind of ‘floated’ into the Great House ..we were all gathered in a huge hall…people were sitting in many rows, just waiting for the Master of the house to come.

At the front was a large table, on one side of the table were lots of scrolls or deeds, each tied up with red ribbons. On the other side were many piles of gold coins.
I kind of floated there behind the table.
The Master came in and opened a book…he ran his finger down the list, picked up either a pile of gold , or a scroll or deed, and walked over to the person and gave them either one thing or the other.
He did this until everything on the table had been given out.
I was now annoyed and upset. I had seen that as he gave out the very last scroll, he had reached passed a lady that obviously thought it was for her, and placed it in the hand of the person sitting behind her. No more rewards or deeds were left on the table .
I said to him:- "That is not fair....she has been here all these years..she has never left the grounds of your house.”
He answered- “ That is true, she has ‘been here’ all the time, but her heart has never been fully here, her heart has never done the work of a servant.”
These were the only words that he ever spoke in the dream.



Then He walked over to the huge door…everyone was to follow.
..He opened the door and we all went outside. Again, He didn’t speak.
He just raised His arm and pointed.
Beyond the big gates was a narrow road and hills beyond that …the people who had neither gold coins or scrolls in their hands lowered their heads and shuffled off together down the road toward the hills and far away, the rest turned and went back into the house with the Master and the door was closed.


I woke up in the same presence of the Lord..I stayed before the Lord most of the day. The intensity of the dream was powerful…it still is.

I knew the house was the place of His tender presence, it is place to be, the place of the fullness of joy.
Everyone ( that really worked) were happy working just where the Master had placed them to work. Yet I also knew that within each one was the goal to work closer to the rose garden, the house, and closer to Him, it was almost painful to be away from Him.


I knew that “the work” was to be totally trusting, totally believing, and totally faithful in love.



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@mjrhealth :)

Now maybe you understand my constant refrain of ‘running the race’ and reaching for the Prize of the high calling....it is Him, our Lord and God himself. He is the prize . There are crowns, gifts and rewards "in Him".

We may be lulled into being content to settle here, but at the end we will have great regrets. I experienced the difference of being out in the far orchards working and being in the anointed rose garden.

I have no doubt whatsoever that those who 'shuffled off' behind to the far hills were blood washed children…but they didn’t get to stay in the House..'maybe not till the 1,000 yrs were over. ‘



This dream was a wake up call for me…it jerked me by my boot straps…because I could EXPERIENCE IT ALL!!

I experienced the strong longing to be in the study with Him…I experienced the utter sadness of those who shuffled off..God allowed me to feel everything in the dream. Even the presence in the roses garden was totally amazing…it is far beyond us to even take a guess as to what heaven will be like.


The Reward, is the wonderful presence of God, Himself …the only thing that is worth anything at all.
Yes , the only hell will be knowing what "could have been"…if only...

......Helen.
I really really.desire to dream something like this...just to see Jesus...this is so very encouraging to me. And very thought provoking. Thank you By Grace
 
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