More unproven lies and hate from phony man. This is the best phony man can do because he knows he can never win a debate guided with rules. It's called "forum anarchy" where cowards think they can thrive.
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A Blood-Soaked Path Through History
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How many times do you have to re-invent the wheel?
The bishops in Chile are strongly opposed to inaction, if you bother to read your own links.
The Telegraph news is a cheap tabloid, not the gospel.
Pope’s Meeting Chilean Bishops in Progress: Time for Meditation & Prayer
This is not reported by the telegraph news.
In the declaration, the Chilean prelates ask for forgiveness “for the pain caused to the victims, to the Pope, to the People of God and to the country for our grave errors and omissions” and thank Pope Francis “for his fatherly listening and fraternal correction ”
This is not reported by the telegraph news.
Chilean bishops have blasted a push to promote abortion and have urged authorities to safeguard human life.
This is not reported by the telegraph news.
- “I am a survivor of 10 years of sexual abuse at the hands of my preacher father. I have now become an advocate for victims of abuse. For years I have been saying that when the full scope of the abuse within the evangelical church comes to light, the Catholics will pale in comparison. I have talked to thousands of abuse victims and it would shock you how many are preacher’s kids, missionary kids and kids who have grown up in evangelical homes. The problem with tracking these numbers is because the evangelicals don’t have the hierarchical system that the Catholics do. Abuse victims can’t take it ‘up the chain of command’ because so many of these churches have no accountability. I seriously warn evangelicals about gloating over the Catholic scandals because our day is coming and it isn’t going to be pretty when we see what has been swept under the rug for decades. God is cleaning his church and this is a day that I have long prayed for. May every pedophile and predator preacher be exposed and may our churches become safe havens for the brokenhearted.”
http://www.catholicconvert.com/blog...-protestant-and-secular-you-may-be-surprised/
Your psychotic hatred is irrational.
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I said, the WHOLE church. That includes your church.
And I have proof that you are, one and the same church. Ultimately the ONLY anti-Christ Christian church.
I bet you know the Proof of what I say, but will not say it openly, because it identifies you with the Roman, Catholic church of the Christian era.
What do you claim makes yourselves so different from the Christian Catholic church of the Christian era (about 2000 years now), '~recourse to force~'?
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…or a square cookie, because baked of wheat and sunflower oil, a holy spirit broeitjie nevertheless as dead a little chicken as Dead Bread's worthless Crown sized wafer?
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Canon Law demands they cannot change. The character of papal existence, the fusion or marriage between church and state, which the Bible calls adultery, forbids it. The leopard cannot change her spots, then how can that which is accustomed to doing evil do good?
Protestants do not fully understand what it is they are dealing with. The Catholic church is not just a church. Marriage is the fusion of male female becoming one flesh. Such is the union between the religious arm of the papacy and the state arm. They are one body. And they are bound by law. It is quite true that the religious arm never executed anyone. But that in no wise lessens her responsibility. The state, on pain of and under threat of excommunication, did as the church wanted. The full and complete extirmination of heresy, and all those who taught, practised, and tolerated it. As well as they who harboured them, were born of them, and defended them.
You are unable, or refuse to, provide scholarly documentation for your chronic lies. You have made several lame assertions against the Church and haven't proven any of them. The psychotic drivel of Dave Hunt is not proof. What was written before 1970 is not proof because the archives had not yet been opened and much of that was written by 18th century atheists. Unavoidable wars with no historical context is not proof. Support you hate with a real Ph.D. historian and until you do, you are just another angry, uneducated liar with authority issues.
The literal worship of denominations such as Roman Catholic, Baptist etc. are man's worship of the creations of his own hands and mind.
Setting aside the Bible, which members of denominations all swear to believe and follow, they instead hold to the doctrines and traditions of their adopted denomination, or domination I should say, far more than to God's word. It is so easy to become ensnared in tradition that becomes truth that replaces God's words. Children raised in such churches are instructed by their parents that their church is true and others are false.
The "church" many belong to holds more influence over their hearts and minds than the very scriptures.
The RC church cannot wash it's hands as Pilate did and suddenly be cleansed of bloodguiltiness. Neither can other so called protestant denominations defend their denial of the gifts and calling of God through and by His Holy Spirit.
Forget the religious institutions and seek the face of God with no man or tradition separating you. Should your need become great enough you will run past tradition to get to the cross.
As Jesus told the crowd they were witnesses against themselves that they were children of those that put the prophets to death.
God always leaves a remnant of true believers even in dead denominations that they can attempt to reach, teach, and preach the true gospel of the Bible to those that are locked in the not so fond embrace of the denomination that holds them fast.
If I cry out more when my denomination, sect, group or church is assaulted than when the words of God are denied then something is amiss in my belief system. If my church doctrine tells me I cannot understand the message of the Bible without a representative of that church to interpret it for me then that is a false religion. For the Bible tells me that;
Webster's Bible Translation
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received from him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man should teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you concerning all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Who and what shall we defend and why?
1. A denomination, sect, group or "church" made by the mind and hand of men.
2. God the Father, God the son, God the Holy Spirit and the word of God, the Bible (less the extra books inserted by some sects).
Only one of these can be chosen and they not at all the same. If I am to be criticized it must be for telling every man to seek God and deny religion and tradition in that pursuit.
Setting aside the Bible, which members of denominations all swear to believe and follow, they instead hold to the doctrines and traditions of their adopted denomination, or domination I should say, far more than to God's word. It is so easy to become ensnared in tradition that becomes truth that replaces God's words. Children raised in such churches are instructed by their parents that their church is true and others are false.
The "church" many belong to holds more influence over their hearts and minds than the very scriptures.
The RC church cannot wash it's hands as Pilate did and suddenly be cleansed of bloodguiltiness. Neither can other so called protestant denominations defend their denial of the gifts and calling of God through and by His Holy Spirit.
Forget the religious institutions and seek the face of God with no man or tradition separating you. Should your need become great enough you will run past tradition to get to the cross.
As Jesus told the crowd they were witnesses against themselves that they were children of those that put the prophets to death.
God always leaves a remnant of true believers even in dead denominations that they can attempt to reach, teach, and preach the true gospel of the Bible to those that are locked in the not so fond embrace of the denomination that holds them fast.
If I cry out more when my denomination, sect, group or church is assaulted than when the words of God are denied then something is amiss in my belief system. If my church doctrine tells me I cannot understand the message of the Bible without a representative of that church to interpret it for me then that is a false religion. For the Bible tells me that;
Webster's Bible Translation
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received from him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man should teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you concerning all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Who and what shall we defend and why?
1. A denomination, sect, group or "church" made by the mind and hand of men.
2. God the Father, God the son, God the Holy Spirit and the word of God, the Bible (less the extra books inserted by some sects).
Only one of these can be chosen and they not at all the same. If I am to be criticized it must be for telling every man to seek God and deny religion and tradition in that pursuit.
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More lies.
It's ironic that "Bible Christians" obsessed with end times ramble on and on about 'last days' persecution while they are the ones inflicting it.
Sane people don't worship their denomination, they worship Jesus Christ. You just despise the historic Church and not for any rational reason.
That's what everybody does.
You have to tear everybody else down to build up your anarchistic opinions and your bible cult has done nothing to alleviate human misery. I bet you can't even organize a soup kitchen.
No amount of apologies from the Pope will appease the wrath of the Christian Taliban.
And you are not?
I would think this remnant you speak of has better things to do than bash and insult with lies. "a remnant of true believers" is a Baptist Secessionist invention that you seem to hold fast to.
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. KJV — Revelation 13:15
Here is a global, that is world wide, establishment of a law that demands a certain type of worship, to a specific entity. This is a religious law with the death penalty as incentive to obey. You really think that discussion on this is "rambling"? So clearly there must be a state or civil law enforcing a religious doctrine inimical to true worship. Currently we have an ecumenist enterprise with connections to the UN and national church councils world wide, and with the Pope having the moral mandate and for that reason being touted by the Vatican as being the only logical leader for this global union. Pray tell us, in the absence of any Papal involvement in such an enterprise, if say for example the Vatican is innocent of any future persecutions, what or who do you propose is next in line both in current events and prophetically to fill the gap?
In other words, what other power other than the Catholic union of church and state has the political and religious influence globally to establish a religious law that demands death for those who oppose it?
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Sources? HISTORY is my source. Ever heard of the French Inquisition? The Spanish Inquisition? The vicious campaigns against non-Catholic Christianity, like those against the Albegensis, the Hugenots, the Lollards, the Waldenses, or campaigns against the non-Christian world like the Crusades?No references, no sources, no links, and a big pack of lies. Where do you get this crap from? Communists, atheists Nazies or cults? Hitler makes Lutheranism the state religion, kills 3 million Catholics and plots to kill the Pope, and you are stupid enough to think he was a Catholic ??? As for the rest of your lies, your credibility is in the toilet.
No references, no sources, no links. But hey, this forum has far left anti-Catholic moderators, so you can get away with anything, as long as it bashes Catholicism and no other group.
I would guess that your source is from Masonic, atheist, cults or communist sources. That's why you refuse to name your sources, except one.
ANTI-CATHOLICISM IN NINETEENTH-CENTURY BRITAIN
"That the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood than ANY OTHER INSTITUTION that has ever existed among mankind will be questioned by no Protestant who has a competent knowledge of history." - William E. H. Lecky, History of the Rise and Influence of the Spirit of Rationalism in Europe, Vol. II, pp. 35
Christian Rationalism is not biblical. Christian Rationalism denies Jesus' deity, the Bible as the Word of God, and salvation by faith in Jesus Christ alone.
Would you trust phony man's sources?
Anti-Catholicism in Nineteenth-Century Britain
Anti-Catholicism was undoubtedly a significant feature of the Victorian period. It was manifested in sermons, petitions, tracts, pamphlets, newspapers, and magazines. But as other recent scholarship has demonstrated, it was decisively through fiction that anti-Catholicism was largely disseminated.
Phony man may not admit to being a Klansman, but his anti-Catholic bigotry is parallel with theirs.
The Ku Klux Klan and American Anti-Catholicism
The atrocities at the hands of the Papacy are extremely well known, well documented, and well condemn the Papal system as the fulfillment of the prophecy of the Little Horn of Daniel 7, "...and he shall speak great words against the most High and wear out the saints of the most High..."
When will Papal sympathizers learn that the truth cannot remained covered over, no matter how much it is denied by them? Papal sympathizers for decades covered up their RCC sanctioned, systemic child-raping culture, but eventually the sad, sick truth came to light. And no matter how much Papal sympathizers attempt to cover up the horrors of the past 1500 years, you will not succeed. The final warning to the world just before the return of Christ is found in Revelation 14:6-12 KJV is to not take the Mark of the Beast - the Papal Antichrist - and that warning will continue without fail to be carried forth into all the world, and there is NOTHING you Papists can do to stop it.
"And I heard another voice from heaven saying, 'Come out of Babylon, My people, that you be not partakers of her sins and received not of her plagues' (Revelation 18:4 KJV)" and you would do well to heed that warning and come out of the Papal Babylonian Antichrist system for Jesus' sake before it's too late.
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You offer DEATH to the people - unfortunate, deceived people who you have lead to believe there is virtue in a stupid, crusty, stale piece of dead bread, instead of telling them that our salvation is found only in Christ, which after we have accepted we are to become members of the organized church body - BUT YOU TEACH THAT SALVATION IS NOT FOUND OUTSIDE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THAT WE MUST COME TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ALONE TO OBTAIN IT, WHICH IS CONTRARY TO SCRIPTURE, WHERE GOD CALLS THOSE HE REFERS TO AS "MY PEOPLE" - GRACE SAVED, BORN AGAIN, CHRISTIAN SAINTS - OUT OF BABYLON AND INTO HIS CHURCH.
God says we are to enter into a saving relationship with Jesus that is evidenced by a new life lived in honor and obedience to His commandments, not the pathetic, ridiculous, SATANIC commandments of men that are found in what Luther calls "the Roman dunghill of decretals".
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What a sad, pathetic little Catholic you are to think that those of us who accurately report history "hate" others. It is precisely our LOVE for others which compels us to carry God's warning of Revelation 14 and 18 to the people which calls them out of the Papal Antichrist Babylonian system and warns those who refuse to come out of the destruction that awaits them.
Were the angels who warned Lot and his family to flee the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah guilty of "hate"???
Neither are those of us who preach the Three Angels' Messages which include the call to come out of the satanically pagan, blasphemous, pathetic, disgusting culture of the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah found in Rome, Italy, which has only homosexuality, pedophilia, and dead faith to offer, and will be destroyed as surely as was that ancient city, the name of which is accurately given over to the criminal satanic practice of so many in Catholic leadership - Sodomy.
I keep asking for documentation, actual history from real historians and you come up empty every time. Jack Chick and Dave Hunt are not historians nor are they scholars. Your funnymentalist bible twisting is another matter.
The only historical sources you have are ignorant liars with sensationalist books. Hate is a money maker.
Not once have you stated any academic sources. I am not talking about Lot, I am talking about YOU and your phony history's.
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Stop with the "what sources" garbage, please. Pick up something other than pro-Catholic propaganda and read. You can start with Foxe's Book of Martyrs. No one author could have possibly lived and chronicled the entire 1500 year reign of terror of the Papacy.
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I've listed sources in other posts of the same. YOU refuse to accept anything that is critical of your beloved Antichrist system, but thinking individuals will not be fooled by your incessant denial of the facts.
Don't give her any historic evidence Phoneman because then she will block you and the conversation end. Wilful ignorance is her option when confronting truth.
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I know you aren't talking about Lot - I BROUGHT UP LOT to show how characteristically ignorant is it for a papal sympathizer like yourself to accuse others of "hate" for doing what holy angels from heaven did - warn the people.
BTW, here's a source for you, if you will receive it:
Charles A. Bolton (Ex-Roman Catholic priest):
"What has turned my soul against Roman abuse of power is the way in which it has tortured and burned such saints of God as Joan of Arc, hundreds of the Albigensian martyrs in France in the 12th century, the Knights Templar, John Huss [Czech Jan Hus], the Dominican Savonarola, the Dominican Giordano Bruno, [and] the Anglican bishops Cranmer, Ridley, and Latimer. The Inquisition has promoted at least two wholesale massacres: [hundreds of] thousands of Protestant Waldensians in northern Italy, and thousands of Protestant Huguenots by the massacre of St. Bartholomew in France. More than 30,000 of the most cultured Protestants of France were put to the sword on the night of St. Bartholomew, August 24, 1572. At the news [of this brutal, bloody massacre], the Pope had cannons fired, proclaimed a jubilee, ordered a Te Deum of thanksgiving to be sung, and struck a special medal to commemorate the glorious ‘victory’."
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The Catholic Church teaches that salvation is found in other separated communities. You are too angry and hostile to see it. 817-820. I am convinced that your level of anti-Catholic bigotry causes brain damage. That garbage you fill your head with will rot your mind.
You condemn a cardboard caricature of the Church that isn't real. That means you are intellectually dishonest.
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