History of Pre-Trib Rapture

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Red_Letters88

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Yeah, now that I think about it this isnt just another "add-on" idea. This idea that Christians are taken before any persicution could falsely guide believers who dont have a good hold in scripture. I take it back, this is important. I plan to start studying it soon.
 

Aleks_Kravchuk

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Good morning brothers and sisters, I would like to to leave out some things that I cannot absolutely prove, but I believe happened then.""Thessalonians really loved God, yet someone came and started saying things that Jesus already had come, (It talks more about the two people who Paul handed over to satan because they were breaking the faith of many 1st Timothy 1:18-20, 2nd Timothy 2:16-19) PAUL REACTED TO THEM. They talked about that JESUS Already came, and they told the people about the graves that at the time of Jesus's resurrection burst open and many of the SAINTS, went into the city to witness.) These two people were trying to break the faith of those Thessalonians who dearly love God. so Paul wrote being moved by the Holy Spirit to write this letter, not because it was really needed for them, but that GOD knew it would happen in the end and it was written for us. That is why it is said that (2nd Timothy 2:17) that their word WILL spread,...""These are my thoughts..And I have not been able 100% support them with scriptures, so they are just my thoughts that I believe in.I do not want you to take into reference""HE (satan) planned out for a long two thousand years through the translations and all those things that people get confused in... Please do not take it into the reference of this place (2nd Thessalonians 2: 6-8)And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. =My dad still does not know 100% about this. God revealed to him everything that I wrote in those posts..yet we still do not know about the iniquity... 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:BE BLESSED ALL!!! LETS WORK TOGETHER TO GET CLOSER TO GOD
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Aleks_Kravchuk

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Ecellent work Aleks (It is not my work, God revealed to my dad and I really love the TRUTH I already saw this website and saw that you are already know about this, just wanted to give an add on) (There is so much more God will reveal if we pray and seek God even more)The problem here Red is Satan is the father of Lies he is coming claming to be christ We are told he will perform miracles he will mimick christ he is the great pretender. Copying christ in as many ways as possable.A great delusion like the World has never seen.So how are we to know who the fake is if he looks like christif he talks like christif he performs miracles like christif the Jews accept him as a messiahif he brings the world peace and safteyIt even says he comes from heaven as a bolt of lightningHow are we to know this not Christ??? When Jesus came to Earth, people had perceptions about Him, How he should come, how He will look like, and what He will do.Nation of Israel, waited for the Messiah. and when He came into the synagouge...they gave Him the book of Isaiah and He found and read a place from scripture. I mean that was JESUS, so what did people do once He finished?....They were filled with hatred and almost threw Him off the cliff!They did not notice the awaited Messiah....and are still waiting for Him two thousand years + later.. It is almost the end of the world here... They are still waiting for the first coming of the Messiah. How did they not notice Him?(Luke 4:15-30)On the other hand we have Simeon who was awaiting the Messiah's return. HOLY SPIRIT told him that he would not die until he would see the Messiah. One day it says he came by the Spirit into the temple. The Holy Spirit brought him into the temple. When Simeon took Jesus into his hands, Jesus then was just a little ordinary baby not looking anything different than any other baby that Simeon held before. And Yet he said "now You let your servant go in peace for my eyes have seen the salvation....in a baby? YES Simeon saw the Messiah in the baby.We must seek and pray that God would show us through the Holy Spirit who the antichrist is otherwise we will never even know. He will come and will not be noticed unless the Holy Spirit reveals him. (Luke 2:25-35)Only one way look to scripture What does it say it says Satan/antichrist comes first in the 5th/6th trump it also says Christ will not return until the last 7th trump and that upon his return we will changed (transfigered into spirit bodies to gather to him for flesh and blood can not enter heavenSo if pre-trib teaches that some are taken before the 7th trump they will be fooled into thinking the fake one that comes first is the true christ So they by preaching and believing this are misleading others to believe the fake is the real this is why its Satans lie he is making believers focus on being first rather than as scripture Blessed are those who wait. Wait !!!!for what?? the true coming at the 7th trump.Luke 21 list the things that will happen at the End of this age 17And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. believers will hated so how can they be gone as pretribbers teach 18But there shall not an hair of your head perish. He promises we will be protected so why must we be taken away 19In your patience possess ye your souls. patience preserves your soul or waiting on the Lord till the End is whst saves you not flying otta here these things are also written Mark and Mathew never once does he say get ready to fly away or be caught up anywhere he says wait, we will be, protected here on earthWhat he says thought the scriptures is Antichrist, Satan, that man of lawlesness, that son of perdition, that is the devil himself will come first pretending to be me he is the Antichrist
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atrhick

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Amen...Also Revelations seems to be a good book to refer to when speaking of the second coming of Christ
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…Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
 

Aleks_Kravchuk

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Amen...Also Revelations seems to be a good book to refer to when speaking of the second coming of Christ
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…Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
AMEN to that. We are truly blessed if we read, if hear, if we keep the words that are written in the Word of God
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HALLELUAH!