The Mark of the Beast.

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Jun2u

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I don't want to sound callous or unsympathetic, because the discussion here is certainly focused on a very serious topic. After all, receiving or not receiving the mark is a life and death matter...of eternal consequences. But I must ask the question, is the Bible the foundation of our thinking or not? Because most folk are so busy looking at technology and the things of the world to answer your spiritual questions you are ignoring the fact that regarding any spiritual topic, and that includes eschatology, the Bible interprets itself.

Yes, clearly there will be financial restraints placed on those who refuse to receive the mark, even ultimately the death sentence...but neither the financial restraints,(through an RFID chip or whatever) nor the death penalty, is the mark itself.
Remember, it is the mark OF the beast. Who is this beast? The beast to which the mark belongs is a global religious empire. The mark therefore is that which this empire imposes on the world as a sign or seal of submission to her authority, it is of a spiritual/religious nature. How do we know this? Because the recipients of the mark are set by the prophecy in Revelation 14 itself as being in direct contradistinction to God's people who "keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". Revel. 14:12. Remember, we are speaking of an antichrist spirit here...thus the transgression being committed by the bearers of the mark is contrary to, or in place of, the commandments of God. It also reflects that ones faith is no longer in the Creator God, (Revel 14:6,7) but in a counterfeit who claims this spiritual mark as a token of its own authority above that of the true God, but unlike the true God, has to use deception, coercion, force, and threats through the power of state or civil legislation to implement it. Typical ages old Satanic principles at play here. But please guys, we nee to be using the Bible as our source to understanding prophecy. We need to stop prognosticating or using clairvoyance on matters that the Bible doesn't reveal, such as a literal barcode or chip. Do you really believe a chip brings down the wrath of God unprecedented in human history. Come on, think about it. God doesnt care if you use technology to manage your finances. But He does care when you keep mans commandments when they directly contradict His own.


I don’t understand where “Christians” get the notion that God is interested in the economy of the world. He is only interested in the sin-sicked-souls of mankind.

Revelation 13:16-18 simply means, to have the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead, and the number of his name on a person signifies he belongs to Satan.

Note the contrast in Revelation 14:1 where the hundred forty and four thousand (the totality of all believers) have the name of the Father on their foreheads to signify they belong to God.

It is the same system ranchers use to brand their cows, horses, sheep...etc.
 
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I don’t understand where “Christians” get the notion that God is interested in the economy of the world. He is only interested in the sin-sicked-souls of mankind.

Revelation 13:16-18 simply means, to have the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead, and the number of his name on a person signifies he belongs to Satan.

Note the contrast in Revelation 14:1 where the hundred forty and four thousand (the totality of all believers) have the name of the Father on their foreheads to signify they belong to God.

It is the same system ranchers use to brand their cows, horses, sheep...etc.
Agree, only I do not believe it is a visible mark The scripture says in the forehead, not on. In the forehead is the mind, particularly that part of the mind that deals with conscience.
 
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The Mark of the Beast is not a physical mark. You can tattoo a man, put a chip in him, stamp him in any way you wish. This doesn't change the way a man thinks. To receive his Mark is to receive him. If you receive him he's in your mind. Your mind is whats in your forehead. To receive his Mark in your hand is to do his work. Recruit for him put up posters telling how great he is and such. This is another one of mans unlearned teachings. God would have us to use common sense and understanding. Why does man try to put more into his word than is there.

Jesus Christ bore the seal of God: “On him God the Father has placed his seal of approval” (John 6:27). Those who trust in Jesus also possess the seal of God, which is the Holy Spirit: “You also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were MARKED in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession” (Ephesians 1:13–14). It is good to know that God’s children are sealed, secure, and sustained amid the wickedness of this transitory world. And by the way Satan has many names and is described in many ways one of witch is the BEAST.
 

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Agree, only I do not believe it is a visible mark The scripture says in the forehead, not on. In the forehead is the mind, particularly that part of the mind that deals with conscience.

The word “forehead” actually signifies the whole being of a person.

The book of Revelation is a parable, figurative, symbolic, and spiritual in nature, therefore it is obvious that the forehead signifies the mind, belonging to God the totality of all believers (144,000) having the name of the Father in their foreheads. In contrast, the unsaved have the number and name of the beast on their foreheads (666) to signify they belong to Satan.
 
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The word “forehead” actually signifies the whole being of a person.

The book of Revelation is a parable, figurative, symbolic, and spiritual in nature, therefore it is obvious that the forehead signifies the mind, belonging to God the totality of all believers (144,000) having the name of the Father in their foreheads. In contrast, the unsaved have the number and name of the beast on their foreheads (666) to signify they belong to Satan.
What she ^^^^^^says.
 

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The word “forehead” actually signifies the whole being of a person.

The book of Revelation is a parable, figurative, symbolic, and spiritual in nature, therefore it is obvious that the forehead signifies the mind, belonging to God the totality of all believers (144,000) having the name of the Father in their foreheads. In contrast, the unsaved have the number and name of the beast on their foreheads (666) to signify they belong to Satan.
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What she ^^^^^^says.

I don't understand your remark.

Of course, we don't "see" the Father's name "in" or "on" the foreheads of every believer, that's silly and irrelevant. What is important is what God has conveyed that every believer belongs to Him, The same way a rancher knows which horses belong to him by "branding" them.

But please define for me how you understand the meaning of the term "right hand" in Revelation 13:16.
Thank you.
 
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I don't understand your remark.
Just agreeing with it.

But please define for me how you understand the meaning of the term "right hand" in Revelation 13:16.
Many will accept the mark of the beast (sign of allegiance, loyalty, conscientious agreement) in the forehead , but many also will accept it because although they will not agree with the system in the hearts, they will go along with it out of convenience. Under the threat of being switched off from the financial system, having to go without housing, food, etc, or perhaps the threat of jail or fines, and finally the death sentence, they will receive the mark in their hand.
 

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The beast to which the mark belongs is a global religious empire.
Since Scripture tells us that the Mark of the Beast is also "the number of A MAN" then we must take that literally. That man is generally called the Antichrist, but he has other names and titles such as the Beast, the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Little Horn, the Prince that Shall Come, etc.

What we see from 2 Thessalonians 2 is that this man will literally take control of a future temple in Jerusalem, set up the Abomination of Desolation in that temple, and sit in that temple calling himself "God", while blaspheming God and Christ.
Do you really believe a chip brings down the wrath of God unprecedented in human history.
Well the chip will have the number 666 as indicated in Scripture, which means that the person with that chip will have surrendered to the demands of the Antichrist. Obviously there will be other numbers and letters alongside 666 (which is really the number of a Satan-controlled and Satan-possessed man). This number has the Greek letter stigma within it, and that means that each one will be literally stigmatized. Taking that number (in whatever form) will be sufficient to damn that soul since those who take that mark also worship Satan and the Beast.
 

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a trollers got to troll? Can't let go, huh? I know it's hard, but take a deep breath and just tell yourself we've been there, and we aren't going back. No point.


just remember and see that the greatest efforts will be made by the real antichrists who walked and even now walk no more with Him to draw attention away from themselves - they refuse to put on divinity/Christ but prefer to remain [human] beasts - they were active even at the time of Christ as even now and being anti as refusing to walk with Him - they are exposed by the number 666 as at Jn 666 imho - twinc
 

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Many will accept the mark of the beast (sign of allgiance, loyalty, conscientious agreement) in the forehead , but many also will accept it because although they will not agree with the system in the hearts, they will go along with it out of convenience. Under the threat of being switched off from the financial system, having to go without housing, food, etc, or perhaps the threat of jail or fines, and finally the death sentence, they will receive the mark in their hand.

Firstly, I don’t know what Science Book you read that made you make the conclusion above.

Secondly, you have affirmed that Revelation is a Book of parables, symbolic, figurative, and spiritual in character yet you still cling to the above. Which is it, literal or spiritual?

Mark under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, said: “that Jesus spoke in parables and without a parable spake He not.“ In other words, Mark has declared that the whole Bible is a “Historical Parable,” therefore is one cohesive whole. A parable is an earthly story with a heavenly/spiritual meaning!

Consider Ps 110:1
The LORD (God) said unto my Lord (Jesus), “Sit (rule) thou at my right hand (will) until I make thine enemies thy footstool.”

Mat 22:43-44
He saith unto them, “How then doth David in spirit (under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) call him Lord, saying,
44 -The LORD (G0D) said unto my Lord (Jesus), “Sit (rule) thou on my right hand (will), till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Words in parenthesis are mine. The word “sit” means “equal rule” in the above context.

Therefore the term “right hand” is to give one’s will, or heart, or mind and become a slave to that person.

To God Be The Glory