Is Revelation 3:10 A Secret Rapture To Heaven?

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Enoch111

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I don't really get the idea of a "secret rapture."
The word "secret" was added deliberately by those who oppose the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the saints. It is NOT secret for believers, but it is definitely hidden from the rest of the world.

In fact, it is the Resurrection-Rapture of the Church, and because it is so totally miraculous, sudden, and momentary, it can be deemed to be secret.

The saints who died in Christ will be brought to receive their immortal, glorified bodies, and immediately after that the living saints will be transformed and translated.
 

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This is incorrect and contrary to Scripture (never mind what the professing church teaches).

In fact it is quite the opposite.


Here is what the Bible says:Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1 Thess 4:17).

The *translation* of Enoch is an example of the Rapture:By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. (Heb 11:5)

There are many (such as yourself) who are falsely asserting that the Rapture is simply the death of the saints. As you can see, that is complete nonsense.

The only Gentiles in history with a hope of the rapture were those that were grafted into Israel's church during Acts. Your "rapture" is called "The Appearing" and it is only found in Paul's books written after Acts. Or, at least, that's what the Bible says. Where does it say that any Gentile today has the right to claim anything, concerning a hope and calling, that was ever given to Israel? The answer is, nowhere.
 

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Yes, for He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. But that does not mean that the flesh is glorified, no, the flesh passes away and is no more, all things have been made new - but new by the spirit of God, not by the dust of the earth which was manifest for a time that every eye should see.

If we return to God, whom is spirit, we return in spirit. This all that Jesus committed to the Father, and those who follow Him, do likewise, and do not hold on to the flesh, nor do they give it the glory...for the glory is God's, whom is spirit.
Are those in Zechariah 13:6 below looking at wounds of a ghost floating around no.

Jesus currently maintains the wounds of calvary.

Zechariah 13:6KJV
And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.
 

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The word "secret" was added deliberately by those who oppose the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the saints. It is NOT secret for believers, but it is definitely hidden from the rest of the world.

In fact, it is the Resurrection-Rapture of the Church, and because it is so totally miraculous, sudden, and momentary, it can be deemed to be secret.

The saints who died in Christ will be brought to receive their immortal, glorified bodies, and immediately after that the living saints will be transformed and translated.
Thanks. My point was that it should be no secret. People go to the Father every day, and He has told us when: "each in his own order."

But I might mention, that using the term "glorified bodies" can be misunderstood, suggesting that the flesh is glorified, rather than the spirit of God. Not a good term.
 
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Are those in Zechariah 13:6 below looking at wounds of a ghost floating around no.

Jesus currently maintains the wounds of calvary.

Zechariah 13:6KJV
And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.
You are misunderstanding and confusing what is manifest below with what is glorified above.

When the Lord showed His wounds to His disciples, He was revealing His power and victory over death. But He was not suggesting that God was evolving into some "glorified" lower form of flesh for all of eternity. He never said that. On the contrary, He only committed His spirit to the Father for eternity, which is the glory of God...because He "is spirit."

So...what you are referring to in the resurrection showed Jesus' victory over death, which was in the flesh. But that is not to be confused with His ascension. It is only in the ascension that there is glory, for "the flesh profits nothing."
 

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As I 'pass through' life, I am amazed at the amount of people who still believe Jesus Christ wears a white robe , long dark hair and sandals. They have 'stuck' Him as the Jesus that was only here for 33 years out of 6000 earths years.

Rev 1:12
"And I turned to see the Voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters."
 

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This is incorrect and contrary to Scripture (never mind what the professing church teaches).

In fact it is quite the opposite.


Here is what the Bible says:Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1 Thess 4:17).

The *translation* of Enoch is an example of the Rapture:By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. (Heb 11:5)

There are many (such as yourself) who are falsely asserting that the Rapture is simply the death of the saints. As you can see, that is complete nonsense.

Sorry but it is evident that you lack a proper understanding of the texts you quote neither of which supports your erroneous theory.

Let’s begin with the first one which you imagine suggest that the living saints following the resurrection of the “dead in Christ” will experience their resurrection instantaneously without having to die.

There are no scriptures to support this idea; in fact the scriptures to the contrary implicitly state the death of the Lord’s saints as a prerequisite to their entering the kingdom of heaven and receiving their reward.

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain [that is we who are alive and awake at the Second Advent, we who are living during the Parousia] shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.” 1 Thess 4:16, 17

The professing church (i.e. the church nominal) erroneously teaches that both of these events happen simultaneously—that the dead in Christ in the grave are raised first and a second or two later the living are caught up with them. However Rev 14:13 shows that after the initial raising of the dead in Christ (the sleeping saints), each individual faithful Christian as he makes his or her calling and election sure, who subsequently dies in the interim (during the harvest) will receive an instantaneous change at the moment of death.

And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead [in Christ] which die in the Lord from henceforth (that is following the resurrection of the sleeping saints...”

Why blessed? Paul supplies the answer in 1 Cor 15:51: "Behold, I show you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump." The faithful overcomers of the "parousia" period will not sleep, but will be changed at the moment of death.

Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.” Rev 2:10

Not merely until death, but unto death.

Paul said, "I want to be made conformable to His death, if by any means I might attain unto His resurrection." His was a sacrificial death, which ended in actual death. As Jesus was for three and one-half years daily dying more and more to the human desires and hopes, so the Father says. "I want you to die as My Son Jesus died." The joy which was set before Him is also set before us. We are being baptized into His death, and "Blessed those who die in the Lord." Precious in the sight of the Lord is the daily dying of those who follow in the sacrificial course of the Savior.

But must all die, all of the "feet of him" who will be alive and remain until the presence of the Lord?

Yes; they all consecrated themselves--"even unto death"; and of these it is distinctly written that they must all die. No scripture contradicts this thought. God declares by the Prophet--“I said, “You are gods [Elohim, “mighty ones”], and all of you are children of the Most High (Sons of God, begotten of His spirit). But you shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.” Psa 82:6, 7

The word here rendered "princes" signifies chiefs or heads. Adam and our Lord Jesus are the two heads or princes referred to. Both died, but for different reasons: Adam for his own sin, Christ as a willing sacrifice for the sins of the world. And all the Church of Christ, justified by faith in his sacrifice, are reckoned freed from the sin of Adam, and also from the death penalty attached to that sin, in order that they may share with Christ as joint-sacrificers. It is as such joint-sacrificers with Christ that the death of the saints is esteemed by God.

Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints." Psa 116:15

The fellow-members of the body of Christ, when they die, are recognized as "dead with Christ," "made conformable unto his death." They fall like one of the princes--not like the first, but like the second Adam, as members of the body of Christ, filling up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ. Col 1:24

That the term "gods," mighty ones, in this passage is applied to all the Sons of the Most High God, who will be joint-heirs with Christ Jesus, the heir of all things, is clearly shown by our Lord's reference to it. John 10:34-36 "Ye shall ALL DIE like men"; but, "behold, I show you a mystery: we shall not all sleep." To die is one thing, to "sleep" or remain unconscious, dead, is quite another. God's testimony, then, is that all the saints must die, but that they shall not all sleep.

As for your text taken from Heb 11:5, it is a common falsely amongst many students of the word to see something in a text which is not necessarily there, but which they would like to imagine so as it lends support to their own theories.

By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, “and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God.”

The question is asked: Did God take Enoch to heaven?

No. How do we know? Because Christ said, "No man has ascended into heaven." (John 3:13)

In faith Enoch was translated” (“metatethe”—changed from one place or condition to another). In this instance we believe that is translated from one place to another rather than one condition to another. Enoch could not have experience a change of natures as this was not something which was offered to any until following Pentecost and the begetting of the spirit.

But the question still remains then where was he translated to, and how is it that it could be said that he did not see death?

Generally it is the wise course not to go beyond what is written, but for the sake of augment we might speculate a bit here. It’s very much a possibility that since he was not translated to heaven the most likely place would be the Garden of Eden; remember the Garden of Eden is still there, merely hidden from man. Here Enoch would have access to the trees of life and as such would not see death. Another way of looking at this is that in translating Enoch to Eden God spared him from seeing death i.e. the deplorable conditions that developed in the earth prior to the flood, and which made the destruction of the old world a necessity (Gen 6:1- 7).
 

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But I might mention, that using the term "glorified bodies" can be misunderstood, suggesting that the flesh is glorified, rather than the spirit of God. Not a good term.
If the Bible reveals that the bodies of the saints will be glorified, it can be nothing but a good term. There is absolutely nothing to misunderstand (at least for believers).

1 CORINTHIANS 15
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


PHILIPPIANS 3
20 For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

ROMANS 8
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


So the Bible does not say that "the flesh" (the sin nature) is glorified. But the Bible does say that our physical, mortal, corruptible bodies will be SUPERNATURALLY TRANSFORMED to resemble the resurrected and glorified body of Christ.

The Resurrection/Rapture of believers is a key Bible doctrine, but this thread shows that many Christians do not understand what is involved, or choose to reject what the Bible reveals. I will not address each and every post in this thread which is presenting an erroneous view since that would be too much.
 

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If the Bible reveals that the bodies of the saints will be glorified, it can be nothing but a good term. There is absolutely nothing to misunderstand (at least for believers).

1 CORINTHIANS 15
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


PHILIPPIANS 3
20 For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

ROMANS 8
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


So the Bible does not say that "the flesh" (the sin nature) is glorified. But the Bible does say that our physical, mortal, corruptible bodies will be SUPERNATURALLY TRANSFORMED to resemble the resurrected and glorified body of Christ.

The Resurrection/Rapture of believers is a key Bible doctrine, but this thread shows that many Christians do not understand what is involved, or choose to reject what the Bible reveals. I will not address each and every post in this thread which is presenting an erroneous view since that would be too much.
The term "glorified bodies" has a following of people who believe that the flesh is glorified.

Even you now saying that the resurrected believer will "resemble the glorified body of Christ" is misleading. As if there were no difference in Christ before and after His ascension, which difference should be taught and not misunderstood.

What good is it then for you to teach what is not true?

Have you not the time for what is true?
 

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If the Bible reveals that the bodies of the saints will be glorified, it can be nothing but a good term. There is absolutely nothing to misunderstand (at least for believers).

1 CORINTHIANS 15
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


PHILIPPIANS 3
20 For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

ROMANS 8
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


So the Bible does not say that "the flesh" (the sin nature) is glorified. But the Bible does say that our physical, mortal, corruptible bodies will be SUPERNATURALLY TRANSFORMED to resemble the resurrected and glorified body of Christ.

The Resurrection/Rapture of believers is a key Bible doctrine, but this thread shows that many Christians do not understand what is involved, or choose to reject what the Bible reveals. I will not address each and every post in this thread which is presenting an erroneous view since that would be too much.



The quotes from Corinthians and Romans directly apply only to the all-Israel church in Acts, made up of saved Jews and saved Gentiles who are part of Israel, who have a Calling of the New Jerusalem (Gal 4:26), which is NOT Heaven. It comes down out of Heaven and docks on the New Earth.

The quote from Philippians directly applies only to the present all-Gentile church, found ONLY in Paul's books written after Acts. We in that church, unlike the Acts church, or anyone else in the Bible, have a Calling of literal Heaven, or Heavenly Places. or the Supra-Heavens, or the Heaven of Heavens, or whatever other name the Bible calls that place, where Christ now sits at the right hand of God.

You are right about the citizenship of the latter being heaven, but the citizenship of the Acts church is not Heaven. Since these 2 churches are totally different in their makeup, with totally different Callings, the scripture of one doesn't apply to the other. They are not mixable, which should be obvious.

You can't find scripture anywhere in Paul's 7 Acts books or Acts or anyplace else in the Bible, except for Paul's 7 post-Acts books, where anyone ever had a hope of residing in Heaven. The Calling in all those other 59 all-Jewish books is either the Earth or the New Jerusalem. Only Gentiles and the few Jews, during this present 2000 year Gentile period, that believe Paul's Gospel of 1Cor 15:1-4, will be in Heaven. What Paul calls My Gospel, in 1Cor 15:1-4, is the only scripture I know of that merged from Paul's Acts books to his post-Acts books. This is proven by several instances of "My Gospel" in Eph, Col, etc.

I understand perfectly about the rapture and I understand perfectly that the Jewish Rapture, which was for the Jewish Church of Acts and special Jews throughout history, was set aside, along with Israel, 1955 years ago. Our "rapture" for today is called the"appearing" and it is found only in the new and totally different church, composed of about 99+% Gentiles, in Paul's 7 post-Acts epistles.
 
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This is whats known as futurism, which is another erroneous teaching.

Saying that any or all of it has been fulfilled is a form of preterism, one of the most heretical, erroneous fields of teaching on the planet. However, I will eat crow once you post an itemized list of those that have been fulfilled with substantial proof that they have been fulfilled. Don't waste your time looking. There are none.

Supposedly, Revelation was written in 96AD. If true, that was 26 years after 70AD. In Rev 1:3, John calls the book of Revelation, "This Prophecy", which can only mean unfulfilled prophecy. So, any fulfilled prophecy in Revelation had to happen after 96AD. And, of course, that's impossible since ALL Biblical prophecy involves Israel and Israel hasn't existed, in God's eyes, since about 63AD. They will be back, though, in 2063 (my guess) and prophecy will start to be fulfilled again. And, at the very same time, I will be resurrected to heavenly places, because I have been given the eyes to see the Hope of my calling, as Paul prayed that we all would in Eph 1:16-23, and through 2Tim 2:15, I have be able to rightly divide and remove all the Acts stuff that doesn't belong to me, that I certainly don't want or need, from my brain. Do you see your new hope in Eph, Col, etc.? Keep looking. It's not hid under a bushel.
 
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The hour of the earth's temptation is in the final hours of the future tribulation and second coming of Jesus Christ.
Hi Brother Truth7t7, what makes you think the temptation to come upon all the world is the last part of the trubalation we read of as Jacob's trouble in Jer 30:7, instead of the first three and one-half years? I'm new here, didn't read all the posts, and so please forgive me if I'm repeating someone else's questiion.
Blessings in Christ Jesus.
 

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Hi Brother Truth7t7, what makes you think the temptation to come upon all the world is the last part of the trubalation we read of as Jacob's trouble in Jer 30:7, instead of the first three and one-half years? I'm new here, didn't read all the posts, and so please forgive me if I'm repeating someone else's questiion.
Blessings in Christ Jesus.
Larry There is a future 3.5 year tribulation, 1260 days, 42 months this is the exact same time frame.

Dispensationalism falsely teaches Revelation 11:3 and Revelation 13:5 are separate periods of 3.5 years each, totaling 7 years this is false.

The future prophets returned "Two Witnesses" will stand before the antichrist/beast Day for Day, 3.5 years.

Revelation 11:3KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 13:5KJV
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
 

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Larry There is a future 3.5 year tribulation, 1260 days, 42 months this is the exact same time frame.

Dispensationalism falsely teaches Revelation 11:3 and Revelation 13:5 are separate periods of 3.5 years each, totaling 7 years this is false.

The future prophets returned "Two Witnesses" will stand before the antichrist/beast Day for Day, 3.5 years.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Dan 9:27 And he (who is this?) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (Gentile nations?), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Doesn’t this occur after the two witnesses are killed?)

One thing you may want to consider is that in Rev 3:10 there is only one part of the Church remaining alive at Jesus’ coming in the air for us promised deliverance from that temptation.

Anyhow, thanks for your reply, I had just never heard of only one 3 ½ year period of tribulation.
 

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Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Dan 9:27 And he (who is this?) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (Gentile nations?), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Doesn’t this occur after the two witnesses are killed?)

One thing you may want to consider is that in Rev 3:10 there is only one part of the Church remaining alive at Jesus’ coming in the air for us promised deliverance from that temptation.

Anyhow, thanks for your reply, I had just never heard of only one 3 ½ year period of tribulation.
Larry Revelation 3:10 isn't a pre rib rapture.

Daniel 9:27, in the midst of a literal week, or 7 day period the "Antichrist" will stop a sacrifice. This isn't in the middle of a 7 year period as dispensationalism falsely teaches.

The future antichrist will be a "Jew"

He Regarded Not "The God Of His Fathers"
 

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Revelation 3:10 isn't a pre rib rapture.

Daniel 9:27, in the midst of a literal week, or 7 day period the "Antichrist" will stop a sacrifice.
This isn't in the middle of a 7 year period as dispensationalism falsely teaches.
Ezekiel 4:6 . . . I have appointed thee each day for a year.
Without scripture denouncing the tribulation to come, and something changing its boundries of time, I continue to believe in seven years minus a time shortened according to:
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Just a thought to bring to mind is Dan 12:11. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Thanks, and I suppose we're just not going to agree. :)
 

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Daniel 9:27, in the midst of a literal week, or 7 day period the "Antichrist" will stop a sacrifice. This isn't in the middle of a 7 year period as dispensationalism falsely teaches.
You are quite incorrect in calling this period a "literal week" (of seven days). Indeed that would be absurd.

The Hebrew word shabuah literally means "a period of seven" or a "heptad", and as BDB explains, in this context it is a period of seven years.

Brown-Driver-Briggs
שָׁבוּעַ noun masculine Daniel 9:27 period of seven (days, years), heptad, week

2 heptad or seven of years, late, Daniel 9:24,25,26,27 (twice in verse). — שֻׁבֻעוֺת Ezekiel 21:28 see שָׁבַע].
 

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You are quite incorrect in calling this period a "literal week" (of seven days). Indeed that would be absurd.

The Hebrew word shabuah literally means "a period of seven" or a "heptad", and as BDB explains, in this context it is a period of seven years.

Brown-Driver-Briggs
שָׁבוּעַ noun masculine Daniel 9:27 period of seven (days, years), heptad, week

2 heptad or seven of years, late, Daniel 9:24,25,26,27 (twice in verse). — שֻׁבֻעוֺת Ezekiel 21:28 see שָׁבַע].
7 Literal day's or one week, "Shabuwa"

SAME word "Shabuwa" used below!

Did Daniel mourn and fasted for "Three Full Weeks" 21 literal days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
 
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Did Daniel mourn and fasted for "Three Full Weeks" 21 literal days.
As indicated by Thayer, context determines meaning. So you are still way off base. And he clearly shows that in Dan 9, it is a heptad of YEARS, not weeks, which would be totally absurd.
 

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As indicated by Thayer, context determines meaning. So you are still way off base. And he clearly shows that in Dan 9, it is a heptad of YEARS, not weeks, which would be totally absurd.
Absurd is to believe "Shabuwa" represents 7 "Years" God gives you a very clear example.

7 Literal day's or one week, "Shabuwa"

SAME word "Shabuwa" used below!

Did Daniel mourn and fasted for "Three Full Weeks" 21 literal days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.