Allah or The Lord Jesus Christ?

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haanne

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Allah or The Lord Jesus Christ? ... By Rick Mathes Muslim religionThe Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capitain the United States, especially in the minority races!!!Last month I attended my annual training session that's requiredfor maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the trainingsession there was a presentation by three speakers representing theRoman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each oftheir beliefs.I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had tosay. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, completewith a video.After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam andasked:'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that mostImams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] againstthe infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is acomm and to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'There was no disagreement with my statements and, withouthesitation, he replied, 'Non-believers!'I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. Allfollowers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not ofyour faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'The expression on his face changed from one of authority andcommand to that of 'a little boy who had just been caught with his handin the cookie jar.'He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'I then stated, 'Well sir, I have a real problem trying toimagine Pope Benedict commanding all Catholics to kill those of yourfaith or Dr. Charles Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same inorder to guarantee them a place in heaven!'The Imam was speechless!I continued, 'I also have problem with being your 'friend' whenyou and your brother clerics are ! telli ng your followers to kill me! Letme ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells youto kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me tolove you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there withme?'You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head inshame.Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the'Diversification'training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with theIslamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S.to elect the President! I think everyone in the U.S. should be requiredto read this, but with our liberal justice system, liberal media and theACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized.The most puzzling thing to me is... once Islam takes over, therewill no longer be a liberal media or an ACLU, or a liberal justicesystem. So in effect, they are slitting their own throats by notpublicizing this.If you will, please pass this on to your e-mail contacts. Atleast that is one thing we can all do. Then no one can say they were notwarned in time.This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is awell-known leader in prison ministry.The man who walks with God always gets to his destination.If you have a pulse you have a purpose.Do not ask the Lord to guide your footsteps if you're not willing tomove your feet."
 

Mikey

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They are guaranteed a place in heaven for killing nonbelievers, while we will be in heaven for being killed for Christs name.
 

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Allah and God are the same, The Muslims believe in Jesus , they just do not accept him as savior. They think him to be a good and wise teacher, one of the prophets.
 

Abdul Dawood

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Allah and the Christian God are not the same. Muslims will tell you that their god and the God of the Bible are the same, but they are not. How can they be the same when Christians believe that Jesus is God and they do not? But yes, they do think of Jesus as a prophet. Anyways, I felt a little clarification was needed. Oh, also, I looked up the entire first post on snopes and they show it to be false. I always like to look up any kind of stories which are circulated on the internet. I am not trying to bash anything haanne is posting, I just think it is imperative to always check resources.Toodles!
 

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1 John 2:22-23 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.2 John 1:9-11 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
 

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They are guaranteed a place in heaven for killing nonbelievers, while we will be in heaven for being killed for Christs name.
Thats the sad part. They teach children to hate America and Israel.
 

Christina

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Allah and God are the same, The Muslims believe in Jesus , they just do not accept him as savior. They think him to be a good and wise teacher, one of the prophets.
That is completly wrong Allsh is not God just because a religion reconizes Jesus as a prophet does not mean they worship the same God they believe in Jesus yes, that he will serve as a servant to their Mahdi (messiah) So dont be so easily fooled because some one says they believe in our christ I look at their believe in in a God that says to kill and you will go to heaven should alone tell you this is not our God. Even if this artcle is fake its based in the truth of their beliefs, the rewards for mayters is 40 virgins and free flowing wine .........ours is to be a saint with God wake up and pay attention who you call God lest you be found guilty of accepting false gods
 

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I just wanted to add one comment."Religion is the opium of the world"A christian life is 24/7 walk with God, not just on sundays" one post said.I really like that. Jesus gives salvation, hope, freedom, and heals wounds. Helps lost find the way. Gives strength to the tired, and Joy to those who are in sorrow. Calms fearful hearts and provides for every day needs. All kinds of needs. Physical needs are taken care of by themselves by God. God tells us to "seek the Kingdom of God" before anything else and everything else will be given to you, that you need.Many are lost...they go from one religion to another and try to find peace in their souls...God did not create religions, denominations, or anything of the sort. Man created that by listening to the devil, and going on the path that gets them lost. Man created that because of their desires to have their own followers. Wolfs in sheeps clothing.Grace is from God and it is the difference between religions. It is true fellowship with the Lord. The fellowship with God fills your heart with peace. It makes you stronger day by day as you walk in it. God wants us to swim in His grace. In fact He wants to have Grace overtake us in our lives and lead our lives. Ez 47:1-12 I think. Islam and ChristianityIslam from the roots of Muhammed. Christianity from Jesus Christ. Let His name be blessed. For there is NO GREATER NAME IN THE WORLD THAN JESUS CHRIST. Not MuhammadNot BuddhaNot who ever you want to add here _______________Only IN CHRIST. Don't look for the opium that will only calm you down for a little while. Look for JESUS who will give you eternal salvation and peace in your heart. and mine
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That is completly wrong Allsh is not God just because a religion reconizes Jesus as a prophet does not mean they worship the same God they believe in Jesus yes, that he will serve as a servant to their Mahdi (messiah) So dont be so easily fooled because some one says they believe in our christ I look at their believe in in a God that says to kill and you will go to heaven should alone tell you this is not our God. Even if this artcle is fake its based in the truth of their beliefs, the rewards for mayters is 40 virgins and free flowing wine .........ours is to be a saint with God wake up and pay attention who you call God lest you be found guilty of accepting false gods
The Jews don't even believe that much about our Lord and Savior and yet they are put on a pedestal and given the title of "Gods chosen people". It is blasphemy to do so but they do it any way thinking they are Biblical and completely ignore the warnings found in I John and II John about those people that DO NOT confess Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Unbelievable...
 

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ncsojourner: they are put on a pedestal and given the title of "Gods chosen people". Thunder1:That's simply God's plan.
 

ncsojourner

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ncsojourner: they are put on a pedestal and given the title of "Gods chosen people". Thunder1:That's simply God's plan.
Is it? What is God's plan? Mt 28:18-20? Or, is it some thing else?Is it the fact that God does not want to save every one? Ccontrary to what people believe, we are told in John 12:40, He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. cf. Mt 13:15; Acts 28:27; Isa 6:9, 10;But, on the other hand.....In 2 Timothy 2:15, we are commanded, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.In Ephesians 5:11, we are commanded. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.In 2 John 1:10, we are commanded, "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:Mark 1:15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. The above scriptures, and hundreds upon hundreds of others, found in the NT, are not invitations or suggestions to do some thing, only, if it feels good in your heart, but absolute commands requiring full obedience on the part of all readers/hearers.Or, maybe those that profess that the Jews are God's chosen people are some of those mentioned below.Matthew 15:7-8 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. cf. Mark 7:6; Isa 29:13Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.Gary.
 

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Actually, Allah and Yahweh are the same person. The Muslim faith is an early off shoot from Judaism. The Quran has the Torah as it's first five books, same as the OT. Mahamed is not a god per se, he is a prophet who is said to have recieved an angelic visitation during which he recieved revelation about Allah and his demands. This is somewhat similar story to Moses on Mount Sinai.
 

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That is completly wrong Allsh is not God just because a religion reconizes Jesus as a prophet does not mean they worship the same God they believe in Jesus yes, that he will serve as a servant to their Mahdi (messiah) So dont be so easily fooled because some one says they believe in our christ I look at their believe in in a God that says to kill and you will go to heaven should alone tell you this is not our God. Even if this artcle is fake its based in the truth of their beliefs, the rewards for mayters is 40 virgins and free flowing wine .........ours is to be a saint with God wake up and pay attention who you call God lest you be found guilty of accepting false gods
Actually, historically speaking, Allah and Jahweh are the same person. Islam is an off shoot from Judaism. In fact the Quran and the Bible share the same first five books (Torah). Mohammed is said to have had a series of angelic visitations which gave him extra insight into God. It was essentially a call back to monotheism and to a strict adherance to God's law - obviously other things came in along the way. In a lot of ways Islam is similar to modern Judaism. :study:Obviously, a real point of difference is how we both view on Christ. This is probably better grounds for discussion - if you're talking to a Muslim that is. A quick flick thru the OT and you'll see the God of the Bible wiping out whole nations etc. The two religions share a whole bunch of history. Not something a lot of Christians like to consider. The world does not need another, "my god is better than your god" fist fight, and I'm sure that's not the way Jesus himself would have gone about it.
 

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That is completly wrong Allsh is not God just because a religion reconizes Jesus as a prophet does not mean they worship the same God they believe in Jesus yes, that he will serve as a servant to their Mahdi (messiah) So dont be so easily fooled because some one says they believe in our christ I look at their believe in in a God that says to kill and you will go to heaven should alone tell you this is not our God. Even if this artcle is fake its based in the truth of their beliefs, the rewards for mayters is 40 virgins and free flowing wine .........ours is to be a saint with God wake up and pay attention who you call God lest you be found guilty of accepting false gods
Historically speaking Allah and Jaweh are the same person. Islam is an off shoot of Judaism. Mohammed is said to have had a series of angelic visitiations where he recieved further revelation of God. The Quran and the the Bible share the same first five books (Torah), as thus share a lot of the same values. Of course there are some fundamental differences. The last thing the world needs is another 'my god is better than your god' fist fight based on a couple of the specific differences. You need to remember that the OT has some pretty violent, God ordained, actions in it. So be careful when you start throwing stones.Islam does not accept Jesus as the son of God, however, at the time of Mohammed that idea was really just becoming Christian doctrine.
 

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That was disgusting... Why is people believing in this junk. Clearly Islam is nothing but a Satanic religion, for numerous reasons, here is the main part, they don't believe that Christ has died on a cross but a mere sinner whose name was Judas.
 

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Actually, historically speaking, Allah and Jahweh are the same person. Islam is an off shoot from Judaism. In fact the Quran and the Bible share the same first five books (Torah). Mohammed is said to have had a series of angelic visitations which gave him extra insight into God. It was essentially a call back to monotheism and to a strict adherance to God's law - obviously other things came in along the way. In a lot of ways Islam is similar to modern Judaism. :study:Obviously, a real point of difference is how we both view on Christ. This is probably better grounds for discussion - if you're talking to a Muslim that is. A quick flick thru the OT and you'll see the God of the Bible wiping out whole nations etc. The two religions share a whole bunch of history. Not something a lot of Christians like to consider. The world does not need another, "my god is better than your god" fist fight, and I'm sure that's not the way Jesus himself would have gone about it.
wrong allah is not our God you wanna stay on this site dont claim that false gods are our God and dont give me your lies you believe its an off shoot of Judism you are wrong the Koran was written 400 years after the death of Christ by a womanizing drunkard named Mohanmmed you think thats holyyou are mistaken. If theres one thing Denver will not tolerate it one woldism all religions are fine this is a Chrstain site
 
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