I don't think what Jeremiah Wright said was so bad

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TooInvolved1

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Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America." The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism." In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family. Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope." An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans. "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism. "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation. Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon. "The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification," Obama said in a recent interview. "It sounds like he was trying to be provocative," Obama told the paper. Rev. Wright, who announced his retirement last month, has built a large and loyal following at his church with his mesmerizing sermons, mixing traditional spiritual content and his views on contemporary issues. "I wouldn't call it radical. I call it being black in America," said one congregation member outside the church last Sunday. "He has impacted the life of Barack Obama so much so that he wants to portray that feeling he got from Rev. Wright onto the country because we all need something positive," said another member of the congregation. Rev. Wright, who declined to be interviewed by ABC News, is considered one of the country's 10 most influential black pastors, according to members of the Obama campaign. Obama has praised at least one aspect of Rev. Wright's approach, referring to his "social gospel" and his focus on Africa, "and I agree with him on that." Sen. Obama declined to comment on Rev. Wright's denunciations of the United States, but a campaign religious adviser, Shaun Casey, appearing on "Good Morning America" Thursday, said Obama "had repudiated" those comments. In a statement to ABCNews.com, Obama's press spokesman Bill Burton said, "Sen. Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they're offered from a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church. Sen. Obama does not think of the pastor of his church in political terms. Like a member of his family, there are things he says with which Sen. Obama deeply disagrees. But now that he is retired, that doesn't detract from Sen. Obama's affection for Rev. Wright or his appreciation for the good works he has done."
 

Jackie D

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Oh that guy...well I don't find his statements to be that far off the mark. However, they are inflammatory and could create problems, especially with the fact that there are enough hate groups in our country all ready, there is no need to incite more.
 

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Its not that all things taken into perspective of the situations they were anything new that we havent heard or do not know Its that I dont think someone who wants to president of all the united States of america when he admits he has listened to this man as mentor and spirtual leader for 20 years and would continue to do so belongs in the presidensy the Reverand is anti semic (does like Jews) thinks the US government made the aids virus to kill all Black people Now the reverand as I say didnt say anything we havent heard before my problem is I dont want someone who calls this person their mentor in the White house Imagine if it was the other way around and Hliray or mcCain had sat in a church for 2o years listening to this stuff THE NEWS MEDIA would be crazy I dont think been hard on Obama at all compared to what they would be Hilary or Mccain
 

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The statements J. Wright said are sick and they sadden me. Mr. Jeremiah Wright should hardly be reverenced. I pray for the people that attend that church thinking they are receiving spiritual guidance,yet they are being led to Satan. I also question the judgment of Barak Obama for staying there for 20 years and for letting his children hear this hate. This does explain why his wife was proud of our country for the first time. Wright portrays himself to be a minister of a Church of Christ yet he speaks hate. Did I understand you correctly that you folks don't disagree with him? I think we all need to look at GOD's word for some answers:Jeremiah 3:15 KJV GOD speaking through Jeremiah " And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding". The word pastor comes from the word pasture.Christ is our shepherd, we are the sheep and GOD's Word is our pasture from which all believers are to feed from.Pastors are to feed us GOD's word,not man's. What Wright spoke were his words, not GOD's. This is what God thinks about men feed God's flock with their own words:Duet 18:20 KJV" But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet will die." 1 Peter 4:17 "For the time has come that judgment must begin at the house of God;and if it first begin at us ( ministers/apostles), what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"There are somany more verses in Isaiah and Jeremiah about what GOD feels about those that speak out of their own mind and not Gods. Research this and you will see they make GOD angry and will be judged accordingly. My favorite is Jeremiah 17:5-8.In Acts 9:15, Apostle Paul was given his mission by Jesus Christ on the road to Damascus.Christ summarized it to Ananias, the one who would help Paul in Damascus."But the LORD said unto him( Ananias)"Go thy way: for he( Paul) is a chosen vessel unto Me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings and the children of Israel.""Gentiles (#1484 in Strong's Greek Dictionary) means ethnos or ethnic peoples. Part of Paul's ministry was to preach GOD's word to all ethnic people, like those that attend Wright's church. The church of Christ from the Bible was opened to all believers,where race is not an issue. If Wright was doing his job as a minister in a church of Christ, he would have been teaching the love of Christ instead of the hate we heard. As far as I discern( GOD will do the judging), this is a radical group disguised as a church. I keep hearing on the tv that all black churches are like that. If that is the case, we need to reach out to our ethnic brothers and sisters and teach them the truth of GOD's word.All believers are brothers and sisters in Christ. We are part of the many membered body of Christ where the most important qualification is that you believe in Jesus Christ ( John 3:16). In Matt 4, Satan tried to tempt Christ but is unsuccessful. His MO( method of operation) is to pay compliments and to twist scripture. He starts out with a verse and changes the end so the true message of GOD is not given.This is why Satan works best from a pulpit and it is obvious he has gotten in the doors of Barak Obama's church. We should all pray for the members of that church that they hear GOD's word, since the famine of the endtimes is for hearing the word of God(Amos 8:11).
 

TooInvolved1

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I'm sorry but his (JW's) statements are accurate. America doesn't want to hear or be reminded of the ugly truth. Can anyone deny the factual accuracy of what he said? No. It's not America's racist history that seems to bother people; it's that they don't want to be reminded of it. Consider yourself fortunate if you can sing la-la-la as you hear words like these. Millions of people not only have to hear or see it, they have to live it and experience racist America every day.
 

Christina

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That not the point I have said that its not his words or opinions he has right to express them its just not what we need now in white housedoesnt mean it doesnt need to be addressed but our country is on the verge of collapising for more directions than one and this isnt what we need now toi solve these problems. I know every group think their problems are the biggest but the entire country falls because of a failed government these groups wont have to worry about their complaints are cause it wont matter if theres is No U.S., as we know itAnd I dont think God Damn america is the right attitude to fix it even if tecnically White has a his point.
 

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Not that bad? Sheesh! They are horrendous! He can say whatever he wants, but I don't think I want my president having that voice in his ear on issues on conscious, war, or homeland security. How could they be any worse? We have lost our ability to be offended in America... that is the worst of all our transgressions
 

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How could his words be any worse? They could be untrue. But they weren't.
REGARDLESS OF THE VALIDITY OF HIS STATEMENTS TO THE NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE - IS A PULPIT THE RIGHT PLACE TO USE WORDS LIKE:D#$NNI%&*RI DON'T THINK SO!​
What he said was horrendous - how in the world does it matter if Hillary truly knows what it is like to be called a "N*&%$R. It does not matter! How is 911 any sort of justification for anything? Listen no matter what your political persuasion - there is no need for this kind of language or talk - ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU NAME FOLLOWS THE TITLE: REVEREND!
 

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But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds: ) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
 

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How could his words be any worse? They could be untrue. But they weren't.
Heard it said that the truth hurts...could it be here?
 

TooInvolved1

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Two-Me thinks that's the answer.Swearing in the pulpit, while wrong, isn't what the controversy is about. And I don't get the insinuation that he's a false prophet.
 

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Two-Me thinks that's the answer.Swearing in the pulpit, while wrong, isn't what the controversy is about. And I don't get the insinuation that he's a false prophet.
No neither do I. Its people trying to prove their accusations agianst Obama correct. What his pastor says has no bearing on him other than the fact that he was Obamas pastor.
 

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Oh I see we are so introspective, while all the other lemmings fall off the system cliff - Sheesh! Listen this guy is a pastor who made inflammatory comments and accusations from a pulpit. Maybe that does not bother you. Fine, but his statements are overboard - THE UNITED STATES INVENTED AIDS TO KILL THE BLACK MANC'MON - THAT'S TRUTH? Geez guys get a grip!Lay off the conspiracy theory stuff guys - time for a heapin tablespoon full of reality