Are You Looking for the Rapture or will You be Left Behind??

GISMYS_7 said:

Are You Looking for the Rapture or will You be Left Behind??====Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and ""unto those who look for Him shall He appear the second"" time without sin, unto salvation. Hebrews 9:28

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No, I am not looking for a Rapture to take place...I am Looking at Christ Jesus who IS the rapture of my soul.
Hebs. " Moses endured , seeing Him who is invisible.."

All the theologians, scripture scholars, bishops, saints and reformers were incapable of interpreting God's word....until....
...John Nelson Darby came along. He broke off from the Plymouth Brethren over theological disputes. Founder of the Exclusive Brethren sect, Darby invented pre-tribulation rapture theology in 1830 that was totally foreign to all of Christianity.

His theory was further popularized in the United States in the early 20th century by the wide circulation of the Scofield Reference Bible. The footnotes were made doctrine by American dispensationists.

...fast forward to 1970...

The biggest-selling work of non-fiction (other than the Bible) since 1970 is dispensationalist Hal Lindsey’s The Late Great Planet Earth (Bantam, 1970), which sold more than 40 million copies and established the blueprint for a number of other popular, self-described “Bible prophecy” experts (including Tim LaHaye, creator and coauthor of the Left Behind series)

LaHaye’s first work of “Bible prophecy” was The Beginning of the End (Tyndale, 1972), essentially a carbon copy of Lindsey’s mega-seller. In the years that followed, Lindsey and LaHaye, along with authors such as Salem Kirban, David Wilkinson, Dave Hunt, Grant Jeffrey, John Walvoord, and others, produced a string of best-selling books warning of the rapidly approaching pretribulation Rapture, the Antichrist, and the tribulation.

One message of LaHaye’s that comes across clearly in books such as Are We Living in the End Times?, Rapture Under Attack, and Revelation Unveiled is that the Catholic Church is apostate, Catholicism is “Babylonian mysticism” and an “idolatrous religion,” and Catholics worship Mary, knowing little about the real Jesus Christ. It’s difficult to overstate the dislike — even hatred — LaHaye has for the Catholic Church or to exaggerate the ridiculous character of his attacks. He condemns the use of candles in Catholic churches, insists there’s hardly any difference between Hinduism and Catholicism, and emphatically declares that the Catholic Church killed at least 40 million people during the “dark ages.”

When I asked LaHaye, via e-mail, why he never refers to Catholic sources or official documents in his writings, he replied:

Because I think that for centuries the Catholic Church has presented church history in a manner protective of “Mother church.” . . . I have seen more concern on the part of your church for Hindus, Buddhists, and other pagan religions than they do [sic] for those who love Jesus Christ as He is presented in the Bible and are committed to making Him known to the lost so they will not be Left Behind.

In other words, the Catholic Church is simply wrong and doesn’t deserve a fair hearing. LaHaye has not only revealed himself to be an anti-Catholic polemicist but a theologian with a seriously skewed view of God’s salvific work. In a newspaper interview, LaHaye said, “We’ve [himself and Jenkins] created a series of books about the greatest cosmic event that will happen in the history of the world.” What is that “greatest cosmic event”? The Incarnation? The Cross? The Resurrection? No, the Rapture — a modern, man-made belief based on a distorted Christology and an anemic ecclesiology.

Library : Five Myths About the Rapture

It's ironic; all this talk about "end time persecution" and/or "great tribulation" while guys like Lahaye inflict it on Catholics.

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GISMYS_7 said:

Are You Looking for the Rapture or will You be Left Behind??====Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and ""unto those who look for Him shall He appear the second"" time without sin, unto salvation. Hebrews 9:28

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So you are saying that it is not enough to be saved by faith, but that one must also do the works of looking and expecting Jesus's return, if one hopes to be saved.

I was once caught up in Revelations apocolypse rapture stuff. The Bible says no one, not even Jesus knows the hour or day when the rapture will take place. No one will ever know when the rapture and Christ's second return will happen. only God the father knows, no human being will ever know or find out. As for Catholics, I hate being told lies. I hate lies! I have heard Catholics do worship Mary, but they are suppose to worship Jesus Christ. How can someone know how many people were killed by the catholic church when it is difficult to tell how many people lived back in the middle ages and how they died, we'd have to have a lot of records. What's wrong with candles in church? They fight be a fire hazard. I wish faith and religion could be simple, Jesus said those who have faith like a little child will find the kingdom of heaven. Let our faith in Christ be simple, loving and merciful, not complicated by doctrines and rules, arguing over this or that verse in the Bible, arguing over rituals and set prayers and artwork in the church, arguing over ideas and progress in science, love each other and stay pure, give what we have to those who don't have.

Windmillcharge said:

So you are saying that it is not enough to be saved by faith, but that one must also do the works of looking and expecting Jesus's return, if one hopes to be saved.

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Jesus was warning believers in Luke 21:33-36 about how even the cares of life can snare a christian that they would not want to leave when the Bridegroom comes.

When believers sets their hearts on the cares of this life, and their loved ones, one can see why they would excuse themselves from coming. Luke 14:15-33

Jesus wanted believers to remember what had happened to Lot's wife in being ready to leave this life behind. Luke 17:28-33

But if you recall 1 Corinthians 3:10-17, any work of iniquity built on that foundation, He will destroy the temple of God that saints had defiled, unless they repent before the Bridegroom comes. So it is not salvation we seek to obtain by Him, but to be abiding in Him as His disciple to avoid being cut off and left behind as verse 6 warns in John 15:4-9 and why Jesus warned believers to prepare themselves or get stripes when left left behind Luke 12:40-49

Think of the rapture as God judging His House by excommunication. Like how church is to maintain proper fellowship in how they are not to eat with a brother that lives in unrepentant iniquity in 1 Corinthians 5:11 for why God will do it to each unrepentant believer in being cut off from eating at the Marriage Supper table. The purpose of being cut off can be seen as giving those left behind to the destruction of the flesh; their physical death, so that their spirits shall receive the inheritance of being vessels unto dishonor in His House.

So there is a difference in inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven; the celestial as vessels unto honor and the glorified terrestrial as vessels unto dishonor.

That is the huge difference when you see both kinds of vessels being in His House ( 2 Timothy 2:20 ) for why the call to depart from iniquity is given even to former believers ( 2 Timothy 2:18-21 ) to run that race by faith in Jesus Christ being our Good Shepherd to help us lay aside every weight & sin in running that race so they may be received by Him as the Bridegroom as vessels unto honor in His House to attend the Marriage Supper held in His honor & to His glory.

put me down for Left Behind, ty

but imo your heart is in the right place

bbyrd009 said:

put me down for Left Behind, ty

but imo your heart is in the right place

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It makes me laugh!!

"We we read about " For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

The ones Taken where NOT the good seed!!

And in Matt 13:29 "But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into My Barn."

But, they all say they are going in some rapture !!