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i just want to point out that both Preterism and Futurism were ideas created by the Jesuit Order during the Great Reformation; Preterism by Luis De Alcasar and Futurism by Fransisco Ribera...now, please explain to me why Historicism is supposedly wrong, because I'm starting to see it as more of truth than any of the other viewsand one thing that Futurism does is put in a huge gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th prophetic week... so that don't make any sense to me anymore... and you also can't ignore what Revelation 1:1 says... "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;"and I have to disagree with the "only futurism fits", because when you study Papal Rome and the rise and fall of ancient Rome, the puzzle fits perfectly...now if it were in the future, then why did John say that these things would shortly come to pass?... that doesn't make any sense... it would make sense if he said something else, like "happen in a time where I am dead" or something
Well in part you are right the parts of the futurists veiw were taught in very early writtings but it was pretty much lost in time. Of course the things in the past fit for the most part they were the types. Same way Jonah being in the fish three days would fit the description of Christ in the Tomb three days, But we know Jonah wasnt Christ he was a type. Types fit the fulfilled act thats why they are called types.You have to remember God is outside time to him hes only been gone a short time thats pretty filmsy reason sense God tells us one day to him is a 1000 years to men. Soon is relative. John was forward in time he was Taken to Lords Day and is Looking back in time as his vision is described.If you take away the 70th week please explain to me all the times in Rev. how do explain away the fact Daniel says the Abomination of desolation takes place in the middle of the week half of 7 is 3 1/2 years =1260 days or 42 Months they are all the same. Now if the Abomination occured in the past what are the numbers in Rev. based on ?? If not the middle of the week. Can you say this is not Antichrist in this verse.Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months. (3 1/2 years)There are so many things in scripture that are left unexplained with the Historical veiw. The more I learned the more it did not fit. You can not just ignore what doesnt fit . Thats why we are told to come to the Word like a child without preconceived notions. God tells us there is nothing new under the sun, That is, what has happened before(the types) will happen again...... I take him at his Word.
i just want to point out that both Preterism and Futurism were ideas created by the Jesuit Order during the Great Reformation; Preterism by Luis De Alcasar and Futurism by Fransisco Ribera...now, please explain to me why Historicism is supposedly wrong, because I'm starting to see it as more of truth than any of the other viewsand one thing that Futurism does is put in a huge gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th prophetic week... so that don't make any sense to me anymore... and you also can't ignore what Revelation 1:1 says... "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;"and I have to disagree with the "only futurism fits", because when you study Papal Rome and the rise and fall of ancient Rome, the puzzle fits perfectly...now if it were in the future, then why did John say that these things would shortly come to pass?... that doesn't make any sense... it would make sense if he said something else, like "happen in a time where I am dead" or something
Well in part you are right the parts of the futurists veiw were taught in very early writtings but it was pretty much lost in time. Of course the things in the past fit for the most part they were the types. Same way Jonah being in the fish three days would fit the description of Christ in the Tomb three days, But we know Jonah wasnt Christ he was a type. Types fit the fulfilled act thats why they are called types.You have to remember God is outside time to him hes only been gone a short time thats pretty filmsy reason sense God tells us one day to him is a 1000 years to men. Soon is relative. John was forward in time he was Taken to Lords Day and is Looking back in time as his vision is described.If you take away the 70th week please explain to me all the times in Rev. how do explain away the fact Daniel says the Abomination of desolation takes place in the middle of the week half of 7 is 3 1/2 years =1260 days or 42 Months they are all the same. Now if the Abomination occured in the past what are the numbers in Rev. based on ?? If not the middle of the week. Can you say this is not Antichrist in this verse.Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months. (3 1/2 years)There are so many things in scripture that are left unexplained with the Historical veiw. The more I learned the more it did not fit. You can not just ignore what doesnt fit . Thats why we are told to come to the Word like a child without preconceived notions. God tells us there is nothing new under the sun, That is, what has happened before(the types) will happen again...... I take him at his Word.