God the Holy Spirit - third person of the Godhead

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As we all know the Bible defines

Deut 6:4 ONE GOD
Matthew 28:19 - in THREE PERSONS

This thread is about the Bible support for the personhood and Deity of the Holy Spirit.

John 16
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All thin 7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are onegs that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.


Matthew 28
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

1 John 5
7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one


Matt 12
31 “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Acts 15
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled,

Rom 8
16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

Acts 13
2 As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” 3 Then, having fasted and prayed, and laid hands on them, they sent them away.

Heb 3
7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,

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The Holy Spirit shown to be a "person" in the Bible.

"The Holy Spirit SAID" Hebrews 3
"It seemed good TO THE HOLY SPIRIT and to us" Acts 15
"HE will guide you into ALL truth" John 16
He is "ANOTHER comforter/counselor/teacher" in addition to Christ -- John 14
"In the NAME of " the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit - Matthew 28:19
HE convicts the WORLD of sin - John 16
"He who searches our hearts KNOWS the MIND of the Spirit" Romans 8:27
The Spirit "KNOWS the thoughts of of God" 1 Cor 2:11
"the Holy Spirit said,Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” Acts 13:2

========== Demons also referred to as "it"

1 Chron 10:13 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; (NASB/KJV)

Acts 16:18
18 She continued doing this for many days. But Paul was greatly annoyed, and turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her!” And it came out at that very moment.(NASB/ESV/YLT)

Matt 12:43 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. (NASB/ESV/NIV/YLT)
 
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The Scripture (AV) listing on the Holy Ghost/Spirit [if you see any mistakes please let me know, or if anything needs to be added]:

"the Holy Ghost" (x90) - Matthew 1:18,20, 3:11, 12:31,32, 28:19; Mark 1:8, 3:29, 12:36, 13:11; Luke 1:15,35,41,67, 2:25,26, 3:16,22, 4:1, 12:10,12; John 1:33, 7:39, 14:26, 20:22; Acts 1:2,5,8,16, 2:4,33,38, 4:8.31. 5:3,32, 6:3,5, 7:51,55, 8:15,17,18,19, 9:17,31, 10:38,44,45,47, 11:15,16,24, 13:2,4,9,52, 15:8,28, 16:6, 19:2 (x2),6, 20:23,28, 21:11, 28:25; Romans 5:5, 9:1, 14:17, 15:13,16; 1 Corinthians 2:13, 6:19, 12:3; 2 Corinthians 6:6, 13:14; 1 Thessalonians 1:5,6; 2 Timothy 1:14; Titus 3:5; Hebrews 2:4, 3:7, 6:4, 9:8, 10:15; 1 Peter 1:12; 2 Peter 1:21; 1 John 5:7; Jude 1:20

"the Spirit" (x80) - Matthew 4:1; Mark 1:10; Luke 2:27, 4:14; John 1:32,33, 3:5,6,8,34; Acts 2:4, 8:29, 10:19, 11:12,28, 16:7, 21:4; Romans 8:1,4,5 (x2),9,10,13,16,23,26 (x2),27, 15:30; 1 Corinthians 2:10, 12:7,8; 2 Corinthians 1:22, 5:5; Galatians 3:2,3,5,14, 4:29, 5:5,16,17 (x2),18,22,25 (x2), 6:8 (x2); Ephesians 2:22, 3:5, 4:3, 5:9,18, 6:17,18; Philippians 2:1; Colossians 1:8; 1 Thessalonians 5:19; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Timothy 3:16, 4:1; 1 Peter 1:2,22, 3:18; 1 John 3:24, 5:6,8; Jude 1:19; Revelation 1:10, 2:7,11,17,29, 3:6,13,22, 14:13, 22:17

"the Holy Spirit" (x1) - Luke 11:13

"the LORD ... My spirit" (x2) - Genesis 6:3; Isaiah 59:21

"the LORD ... my spirit" (x2) - Isaiah 30:1; Zechariah 4:6

"my Spirit" (x2) - Acts 2:17,18

"my spirit" (x10) - Proverbs 1:23; Isaiah 42:1, 44:3; Ezekiel 36:27, 37:14, 39:29; Joel 2:28,29; Haggai 2:5; Matthew 12:18

"thy holy spirit" (x1) - Psalms 51:11

"thy good spirit" (x1) - Nehemiah 9:20

"thy spirit" (x3) - Nehemiah 9:30; Psalms 139:7, 143:10

"thy presence" (x4?) - Exodus 33:15; Psalms 51:11, 139:7; Luke 13:26 (see also 2 Chronicles 20:9; Psalms 9:3, 16:11, 31:20, 140:13; Isaiah 64:1,2,3, see also Job 1:12, see also the phrase the "presence of the LORD", etc)

"his Holy Spirit" (x3) - Isaiah 63:10,11; 1 Thessalonians 4:8

"that holy Spirit of promise" (x1) - Ephesians 1:13

"the holy Spirit of God" (x1) - Ephesians 4:30

"the Spirit of Christ" (x2) - Romans 8:9; 1 Peter 1:11

"the Spirit of Jesus Christ" (x1) - Philippians 1:19

"the Spirit of his Son" (x1) - Galatians 4:6

"the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus" (x1) - Romans 8:2

"the Spirit of God" (x21) - Genesis 1:2, 41:38; 1 Samuel 10:10, 11:6, 19:20,23; 2 Chronicles 15:1, 24:20; Job 33:4; Ezekiel 11:24; Matthew 3:16, 12:28; Romans 8:9,14, 15:19; 1 Corinthians 2:11,14, 3:16, 7:40, 12:3; 1 John 4:2

"the spirit of God" (x4) - Exodus 31:3, 35:31; Numbers 24:2; Job 27:3

"the spirit of judgment" (x1) - Isaiah 4:4

"the spirit of burning" (x1) - Isaiah 4:4

"the Spirit of our God" (x1) - 1 Corinthians 6:11

"the spirit of glory and of God" (x1) - 1 Peter 4:14

"the spirit which is of God" (x1) - 1 Corinthians 2:12

"the Spirit of adoption" (x1) - Romans 8:15

"the spirit" (x9) - Numbers 11:26, 27:18; 1 Chronicles 12:18, 28:12; Ecclesiastes 11:5; Isaiah 32:15, 57:16; John 6:63 (see also John 11:33), Acts 6:10 (see also 2 Corinthians 3:6,8)

"the spirit of wisdom" (x3) - Deuteronomy 34:9; Isaiah 11:2; Ephesians 1:17

"the Spirit of him" (x1) - Romans 8:11

"his Spirit" (x5) - Romans 8:11; Isaiah 48:16 ("the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me" 3 Persons); 1 Corinthians 2:10; Ephesians 3:16; 1 John 4:13

"his spirit" (x5) - Numbers 11:29; Job 26:13; Psalms 106:33; Isaiah 34:16; Zechariah 7:12 (see also Job 34:14 connected with "his breath", see also Mark 2:8, 8:12 connected with "reason ... heart")

"the spirit which is of God" (x1) - 1 Corinthians 2:12

"the Spirit of our God" (x1) - 1 Corinthians 6:11

"the Spirit of the living God" (x1) - 2 Corinthians 3:3

"the holy Spirit of God" (x1) - Ephesians 4:30

"the spirit of the holy gods" (x4) - Daniel 4:8,9,18, 5:11

"the spirit of the gods" (x1) - Daniel 5:14

"the Spirit of the LORD" (x20) - Judges 3:10, 6:34, 11:29, 13:25, 14:6,19, 15:14; 1 Samuel 10:6, 16:13,14; 2 Samuel 23:2; 1 Kings 18:12, 22:24; 2 Kings 2:16; 2 Chronicles 18:23, 20:14; Isaiah 40:13, 59:19, 63:14; Ezekiel 11:5

"the spirit of the LORD" (x5) - Isaiah 11:2, 40:7; Ezekiel 37:1; Micah 2:7, 3:8

"the Spirit of the LORD God" (x1) - Isaiah 61:1

"the Spirit of the Lord" (x5) - Luke 4:18; Acts 5:9, 8:39; 2 Corinthians 3:17,18

"the Spirit of your Father" (x1) - Matthew 10:20

"the Spirit of truth" (x3) - John 14:17, 15:26, 16:13

"the spirit of truth" (x1) - 1 John 4:6

"the Comforter" (x3) - John 14:26, 15:26, 16:7

"the comforter" (x1) - Lamentations 1:16 [see also Ecclesiastes 4:1 (x2) & Lamentations 1:9 (x1)]

"another Comforter" (x1) - John 14:16

"the spirit of holiness" (x1) - Romans 1:4

"the spirit ... of love" (x1) - 2 Timothy 1:7

"the Spirit of grace" (x1) - Hebrews 10:29

"the spirit of grace" (x) - Zechariah 12:10

"the spirit of glory and of God" (x1) - 1 Peter 4:14

"the Spirit of life from God" (x1) - Revelation 11:11

"the Lord is that Spirit" (x1) - 2 Corinthians 3:17

"the seven Spirits" (x1) - Revelation 1:4

"the seven Spirits of God" (x3) - Revelation 3:1, 4:5, 5:6

"another angel ... the earth was lightened with his glory" (x1) - Revelation 18:1 [this "another angel", which is the Holy Ghost in Latter Rain power, and is no created being, but Deity; just as another being is mentioned as "another mighty angel" of Revelation 10:1, which is Jesus Christ, again not a created being; but Deity]
 

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Are these speaking of the Father or the Holy Spirit or both?

"Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; for he is holy." Psalm 99:5


"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24
 
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Are these speaking of the Father or the Holy Spirit or both?

"Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; for he is holy." Psalm 99:5


"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24

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The Holy Spirit is distinct from the Father (who is also a Spirit). Those Scriptures are about God the Holy Spirit.
Is it really so clear as that to you or is it simply the way you have always gone?
 

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Is it really so clear as that to you or is it simply the way you have always gone?
Well all we have to do is take a close look at the baptism of Jesus of Nazareth and see that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons. And other Scriptures fully confirm that. See also 1 John 5:7 (which is authentic Scripture in spite of all the naysayers).

And Jesus,[the Son] when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God [the Holy Spirit] descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven [the Father], saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Mt 3:16,17)

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of [1] the Father, and of [2] the Son, and of [3] the Holy Ghost...(Mt 28:19)
 

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Are these speaking of the Father or the Holy Spirit or both?

"Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; for he is holy." Psalm 99:5


"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24

In the context of that verse of John 4:24, Jesus is referring to God being Omnipresent in answering the woman at the well her question about where to worship God at; the mountains where her people go to worship or to the temple at Jerusalem.

God is "a" Spirit is not defining God the Father nor the Holy Spirit in the context of that verse, otherwise, the the Son is a Spirit too because He is God too.

 

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Well all we have to do is take a close look at the baptism of Jesus of Nazareth and see that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons. And other Scriptures fully confirm that. See also 1 John 5:7 (which is authentic Scripture in spite of all the naysayers).

And Jesus,[the Son] when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God [the Holy Spirit] descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven [the Father], saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Mt 3:16,17)

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of [1] the Father, and of [2] the Son, and of [3] the Holy Ghost...(Mt 28:19)
And perhaps the best one along with those is one you cited in the OP:

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." I John 5:7
That one I have had pointed out to me may have only been a note in the margin, but it's in my Bible so I hold onto it even if some may want to use it convince of my errors. For me it proves nothing, but I won't expound on it here.


I understand your point with regard to the remote possibility that there is a trinity although as I see it there is little direct support for a multiple in or of God. We, however, do live by faith rather than by knowledge. That is to say, I do not know nor do you, but both of us have our faith.

The verses in Matthew [3:16-17 ]of course sound very good, but there is within them no reason to presume that the Spirit [dove] and the voice are not simply God expressing Himself in two way as I might express myself by body language as well as my voice, but while remaining only one me.
The second one in Matthew showing Father, Son and Holy Ghost would have been well understood by our departed friend, small fish, as three designations for the One God rather than three persons. For him [small fish] the name would be Jesus, which is only one name for any one of or for all three designations or manifestations.


I know that what I have said does not prove or disprove anything. My point was simply that the verses can and are understood differently by different people. I grew up as Catholic so I am at least familiar with the Trinity from them as well as from what people on forum like yourself have presented. That a person can find support for a trinity does not make it so I will hold with One God and leaves the triad or triune or trinity to others. The really important thing, I believe, is the One God.
 

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"Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; for he is holy." Psalm 99:5

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24

In the context of that verse of John 4:24, Jesus is referring to God being Omnipresent in answering the woman at the well her question about where to worship God at; the mountains where her people go to worship or to the temple at Jerusalem.

I have no problem with what you said, but it does not establish that God consists of more than One entity or an entity of more than one part or person, and so forth.

God is "a" Spirit is not defining God the Father nor the Holy Spirit in the context of that verse, otherwise, the the Son is a Spirit too because He is God too.
So there is no reason to decide that God consists of multiple parts rather than only one...[or two if Jesus is considered to be God].
 

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gee, who saw that coming
offended, i guess?
There may have been a crack in the armour there for he refused to directly address the other options provided, but we may never know. Some people come here certain that they have it exactly right and therefore everyone is going to see it their way. That seldom is the way it works. Was he shaken or doubtful in his departure?
 
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There may have been a crack in the armour there for he refused to directly address the other options provided, but we may never know. Some people come here certain that they have it exactly right and therefore everyone is going to see it their way. That seldom is the way it works. Was he shaken or doubtful in his departure?
boy, i dunno, i'm pretty much just hearing about it myself. i actually thought he would find a few sympaticos here tbh. Forrest is...pretty irreproachable, tho? i can't find what he said to even cause the kerfluffle myself
 

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boy, i dunno, i'm pretty much just hearing about it myself. i actually thought he would find a few sympaticos here tbh. Forrest is...pretty irreproachable, tho? i can't find what he said to even cause the kerfluffle myself
I believe it was his continuous posts on the thread "Have you been baptized correctly" that led to his demise, it he was removed rather than quit. His "my way or the highway" position without really considering what anyone else said was getting old... but I know nothing more definite.
 
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I understand your point with regard to the remote possibility that there is a trinity...
When a person sees clear Scripture passages about the Trinity and calls that "a remote possibility" it means that he or she does not really take God at His Word.

When a person sees that the Bible calls Jesus "God" and refuses to accept that, that is called wilful blindness.
 

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i can't find what he said to even cause the kerfluffle myself

Then my friend......... you have obviously not read many of his posts in the many other different threads !!
 

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boy, i dunno, i'm pretty much just hearing about it myself. i actually thought he would find a few sympaticos here tbh. Forrest is...pretty irreproachable, tho? i can't find what he said to even cause the kerfluffle myself

I am giving you points for the word ‘kerfuffle’