KJV Is Not Fully Translated From the Greek IMO

gadar perets · Aug 23, 2018

Ac28 said:
Because they're thieves and liars, their sheep are generally very stupid (about the Bible) and gullible, especially when they're all supercharged and goose-pimply, waving their hands in the air and droning,"Jesus, I love Jesus" or "Hallelujah", over and over 500 times, and, of course, the preachers would always prefer a better lifestyle. After a 1 hour music session "buzz", the sheep are very prone to split with the tithe, whether they can afford it or not.

The preachers guilty of this sham know that tithing was only for the other 11 tribes to support the priesthood, the tribe of Levi. Nowhere in the Bible are Gentiles ever told to tithe.

2Cor 2:17 (NIV)
Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, as those sent from God.

I actually detest the NIV and that's one of the very few verses I get from any Bible other than the KJV. I just think it hits the nail on the head. I do have a couple of other Bibles that put the comma in the right place in Lk 23:43, after "Today" instead of before. I also have a couple that remove the phony pagan word "hell" and replace it with the 3 Greek and 1 Hebrew words that should have been used to start with. However, I will always use the KJV, despite it's blemishes and its few errors - at least I know where they are. I've been using the absolute best Study Bible on the planet, the massive 100 year old "Companion Bible" (it's an AV!) for 30 years. I'm 78 and since my eyes are going South, I just bought a large print, huge 8.5" x 11" CB. It's great, except that it weighs over 5 pounds.

I agree with everything you wrote, but are you saying all preachers that accept tithes are thieves? Some of them honestly believe tithing is for today, "but not according to the letter".

JesusIsFaithful · Aug 24, 2018

Ac28 said:
Because they're thieves and liars, their sheep are generally very stupid (about the Bible) and gullible, especially when they're all supercharged and goose-pimply, waving their hands in the air and droning,"Jesus, I love Jesus" or "Hallelujah", over and over 500 times, and, of course, the preachers would always prefer a better lifestyle. After a 1 hour music session "buzz", the sheep are very prone to split with the tithe, whether they can afford it or not.

The preachers guilty of this sham know that tithing was only for the other 11 tribes to support the priesthood, the tribe of Levi. Nowhere in the Bible are Gentiles ever told to tithe.

2Cor 2:17 (NIV)
Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, as those sent from God.

I actually detest the NIV and that's one of the very few verses I get from any Bible other than the KJV. I just think it hits the nail on the head. I do have a couple of other Bibles that put the comma in the right place in Lk 23:43, after "Today" instead of before. I also have a couple that remove the phony pagan word "hell" and replace it with the 3 Greek and 1 Hebrew words that should have been used to start with. However, I will always use the KJV, despite it's blemishes and its few errors - at least I know where they are. I've been using the absolute best Study Bible on the planet, the massive 100 year old "Companion Bible" (it's an AV!) for 30 years. I'm 78 and since my eyes are going South, I just bought a large print, huge 8.5" x 11" CB. It's great, except that it weighs over 5 pounds.

1 Corinthians 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

In Christ's love, I would not call any one stupid, especially since whatever we know of the truth is because He enables us to see the truth.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Even Jesus prayed on the cross for the Father to forgive them for they know not what they do. So I do not believe we should be assigning the label of "stupid" to anyone being fleeced and just following the crowd when obviously, they know not what they do.

Ignorance can make us angry, but even though you did not say that to any one in reply, I am sure there are believers out there that do not care to be reminded of their shame in following the crowd that the Lord had delivered them from in so doing. Instead, they should be thankful to Him & rejoice.

Ac28 · Aug 24, 2018

JesusIsFaithful said:
1 Corinthians 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

In Christ's love, I would not call any one stupid, especially since whatever we know of the truth is because He enables us to see the truth.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Even Jesus prayed on the cross for the Father to forgive them for they know not what they do. So I do not believe we should be assigning the label of "stupid" to anyone being fleeced and just following the crowd when obviously, they know not what they do.

Ignorance can make us angry, but even though you did not say that to any one in reply, I am sure there are believers out there that do not care to be reminded of their shame in following the crowd that the Lord had delivered them from in so doing. Instead, they should be thankful to Him & rejoice.

Definition of stupid: "having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense." OK. Instead of stupid, I probably should have said "ignorant". I did qualify that as concerning the Bible and I would guess that at least 95% of all Christians (including preachers) would fall into the ignorant category.

Christ's, "Please forgive them" prayer on the cross, had only to do with Israel, for the fact that they were the people who were essentially murdering Him.

Ac28 · Aug 24, 2018

gadar perets said:
I agree with everything you wrote, but are you saying all preachers that accept tithes are thieves? Some of them honestly believe tithing is for today, "but not according to the letter".

That's what I'm saying. Ignorance of the scriptures is no excuse, especially for the preachers, the ones who we trust to know the truth. It's their job to know the truth, although about 95% of them are lucky to know more than 50% of what the NT is all about. Why, because they don't obey 2Tim 2:15 and rightly divide God's Word of Truth. Believing that Gentiles should tithe is just very obvious example of one of the 100s of examples of preachers not rightly dividing or of them practicing wrong division. If it were still Acts times, they probably would be struck dead.

JesusIsFaithful · Aug 24, 2018

Ac28 said:
Definition of stupid: "having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense." OK. Instead of stupid, I probably should have said "ignorant". I did qualify that as concerning the Bible and I would guess that at least 95% of all Christians (including preachers) would fall into the ignorant category.

If not all christians since we mature from being babes in Christ in learning in the knowledge of Him.

Christ's, "Please forgive them" prayer on the cross, had only to do with Israel, for the fact that they were the people who were essentially murdering Him.

Christ has set the example for all of us to follow when suffering grief wrongfully. Peter said so by referring to Him when He was on the cross.

1 Peter 2:19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God. 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

So His example on the cross is why we need to trust Him as our Good Shepherd to help us to follow Him in that wise for us in suffering grief wrongfully.

And it certainly is not some mind over matter thing to do when we get so angry at those who mess with us when we did nothing wrong. Thanks to Jesus Christ being in us, He does help me by reminding me to trust Him that He is in control and He will help me through whatever is provoking me. That is a true blue Friend to have for why we all should be glad that He is in us and is with us always. All the more to praise Him for in Heaven by.

JesusIsFaithful · Aug 24, 2018

gadar perets said:
I agree with everything you wrote, but are you saying all preachers that accept tithes are thieves? Some of them honestly believe tithing is for today, "but not according to the letter".

Tithing was never taught to any of the epistles to the churches in the N.T. All givings is between the giver and God; it is not required nor is it a necessity to give for the spur of the moment when the Lord loves a cheerful giver.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

The Lord provides just what He wants the church to run on.

2 Corinthians 9:11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.....15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.

That is the unspeakable gift of God where He raises up cheerful givers to provide the church for what the church needs to minister on and by.

gadar perets · Aug 24, 2018

JesusIsFaithful said:
Tithing was never taught to any of the epistles to the churches in the N.T. All givings is between the giver and God; it is not required nor is it a necessity to give for the spur of the moment when the Lord loves a cheerful giver.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

The Lord provides just what He wants the church to run on.

2 Corinthians 9:11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.....15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.

That is the unspeakable gift of God where He raises up cheerful givers to provide the church for what the church needs to minister on and by.

I agree.

Joseph77 · Jul 28, 2020

JesusIsFaithful said:
It is a double negative, meaning He would never do that regardless of whatever the believer had done or not do.

Hopefully several others exposed this false teaching.

An "overcomer", the one who overcomes, in the passage,
means he did not fail to endure,
he did not return to serve the prince of darkness,
NOT he did whatever he wanted to do.

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