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Frank Lee

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Hey Frank,

Since there is no real clear definition of a Democrat (some pro-life, some pro-border wall etc etc) can you give a clear definition of a "born again follower of Jesus"???

BTW....I agree with you. Anyone that supports abortion is putting themselves in danger of hell fire.

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I certainly can't see every heart. But based on the words of their leaders, Pelosi and others, abortion seems to be a chief stone in their platform. While not a republican either more of them speak against abortion.
We must vote for the man or woman who we can believe, if politicians can be believed.

I never thought I'd seethe day when this country was in such a state. Policies advocated now were once treasonous.

May God direct us all through these times.
 

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The following are insightful reads.

The Democratic Party's Christian Problem

Why Christians Vote Republican Despite It All

Democrats' Religion Problem - The Atlantic

Obama - Democrat - compares isis acts to those of Christians

Note;
Obama's purchased home is two blocks from washingtons largest mosque. You can hear the daily call to Muslim prayer there. Obama remarked that the call to Muslim prayer was the most beautiful sound he ever heard.



All in all...

Matthew 7:15-20 KJVS
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
[16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 

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Policies advocated now were once treasonous.
No one has yet come out and boldly and clearly declared that the Democrats and the Left-Liberals are TRAITORS, and that the Deep State (DOJ, FBI, State Department, etc) has been committing HIGH TREASON and not being held accountable. Which also implies that the Republicans are aiding and abetting treason today.
 
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The title is the post. In my brief life I've never seen so much hate, so many lies, so much adversity from those than say the are Christian and also democrats. I try to stay away from most of what is called news, the daily body count, etc. But I do want to know the gist of governmental going on like the Kavanaugh confirmation. I see that the accuser of Kavanaugh is finding the kitchen a lot hotter place to cook than she thought. She has agreed to testify IF on her terms. Democrats vow to impeach him if confirmed. What a job to have!

My belief is than multitudes that believe themselves to be Christians are not. Church attendance deceives many to believe they are Christians but they still stand up for abortion and other anti biblical beliefs. So many of the democrats are Catholics but still support abortion and putting illegal immigrants before citizens. They spit in the face of those immigrants that labored to become citizens.

There is no way you can be a Democrat and a born again follower of Jesus christ.

These are my beliefs but may not be yours.
I would laugh but it's not funny, it's sad.

For the most part I agree. To say that the would be churches are deceiving multitudes, is absolutely correct. It's shameful. My wife and I have bought a home for our coming retirement, are planing a move, and have been searching for a new church...and OMG what a mess of social clubs robbing whatever suits their personal agenda from the good book! And it is the leadership. Most services start with a wonderful, spirit filled worship and then BAM! a fast talking used car salesman/hollywood dropout zings out a guilt trip tithing or philosophy sermon barely cracking a bible. Just terrible.

But back to the main question "Can a Christian be democrat." ...Well, I have to say, Yes. Because a Christian can also just simply be wrong. Well intended, believing, but wrong.

Does that mean that God has forsaken them to run amuck in the halls of the enemy? No...just to be the other cutting edge of that two-edged sword, children against parents, brother against brother, etc.. Which we all no doubt deserve...and yet they are the lucky ones who drew down the blinders.

In the midst of such, we need not be troubled, but have faith in God's ability to bring all things to a proper close. Brings a smile to my face just thinking about it!
 

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No one has yet come out and boldly and clearly declared that the Democrats and the Left-Liberals are TRAITORS, and that the Deep State (DOJ, FBI, State Department, etc) has been committing HIGH TREASON and not being held accountable. Which also implies that the Republicans are aiding and abetting treason today.

Is there any doubt that if you or I had pulled some of the antics the Clintons and sundry others have that we would be serving hard time in a federal penitentiary?

For some reason God, the great overseer and judge of all, has kept these from justice and judgement. For Behghazi alone there should be immediate retribution. There is something ahead for all these who believe they've gotten away from their wicked deeds and justice. Delay is not escape.

Ecclesiastes 8:11 KJVS
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

God's grist wheels of judgement grind exceeding slow but they grind exceeding fine.

David was angry when he saw that the rich seemed to escape affliction and judgement until God showed him their end. The end of the wicked, rich or poor, is a fearful, dreadful thing.

Psalm 73:17-19 KJVS
Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
[18] Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
[19] How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

You can see the workings of Satan's agents in our political culture. The very things they accused Trump and others of they had alredy performed.

Satan leans on and tempts man to do horrible things. If that person gives in to the temptations then immediately Satan reverses his role and becomes an accuser of those he tempted. These very same tactics can be seen at play in the liberal leftist leadership of the democratic party. Yes others are indeed imperfect but the democrats are the devil's spokesmen for the murder of the innocents. This murder of millions America will be brought to judgement for.

Man being an eternal being is judged in the afterlife before God. Nations such as America being temporal are judged in the here and now. We see this in Germany and Japan. Germany was divided for the biblical forty years.

Democratic party activist C. Ford

Dr. Christine Ford out of sheer hatred for Trump, Trump's followers and his so far successful economic policies, decided she wanted to be a cook and whip up a dish to serve Brett Kavanaugh. She's now finding that it's much hotter in the kitchen than she imagined. She is also finding that not all have a taste for her cooking. She refuses to testify except on Her terms. Her lawyers terms that is. She will not prosper in her bitterness. She does not wish justice. She wishes destruction.

No matter what the label on a person the bitterness and hatred in their hearts will show through.

One pastor we had many years ago put it very well and I always remembered his words. "When you meet a person they may be able to fool you for a little while. Perhaps for a long while. But sooner or later whatever they really flow in is going to begin to flow".

Jesus put it like this.

Luke 6:45 KJVS
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

When leaders stand up and advocate evil, promoting it to be good, then those that agree with them are deciding against God, against God's word and against God's people.

Seeing as how God elected my wife and myself to be blessed with a foretold son, we thus became dedicated spokesmen for the lives of the speechless unborn. We buried a daughter killed by the devices of Satan. We shall meet again and rejoice before the face of Jesus who made us all.

For those that believe they decided upon when and how many children they would bring into this world, they are mistaken. God first placed the desire for those babies in their hearts. God gives the desires of the heart. That is, he places in hearts those desires that he intends to bring to fruition. At the proper season those desire seeds burst forth and grow.

God plants the desire for children but the evil uproot what God has planted and give it another name, abortion, which is
not so caustic upon the ears as murder or "sacrifices unto devils". Men rename evil deeds so their ears are not offended.

Not preferring any political party but I am observing that the denocratic party is chief spokesman for the murder of babies planted by God.

How many wonderful people that would have been a boon to America have been whisked away by the surgeons hands? Doctors, mothers, inventors of lifesaving medicines, good hearted leaders, Christian workers, peacemakers and countless others in the millions and millions of lives cut short by the bloodied hands of the baby reapers.
 
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The title is the post. In my brief life I've never seen so much hate, so many lies, so much adversity from those than say the are Christian and also democrats. I try to stay away from most of what is called news, the daily body count, etc. But I do want to know the gist of governmental going on like the Kavanaugh confirmation. I see that the accuser of Kavanaugh is finding the kitchen a lot hotter place to cook than she thought. She has agreed to testify IF on her terms. Democrats vow to impeach him if confirmed. What a job to have!

My belief is than multitudes that believe themselves to be Christians are not. Church attendance deceives many to believe they are Christians but they still stand up for abortion and other anti biblical beliefs. So many of the democrats are Catholics but still support abortion and putting illegal immigrants before citizens. They spit in the face of those immigrants that labored to become citizens.

There is no way you can be a Democrat and a born again follower of Jesus christ.

These are my beliefs but may not be yours.

Christian Democrat? Christian democracy - Wikipedia
 

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The title is the post. In my brief life I've never seen so much hate, so many lies, so much adversity from those than say the are Christian and also democrats. I try to stay away from most of what is called news, the daily body count, etc. But I do want to know the gist of governmental going on like the Kavanaugh confirmation. I see that the accuser of Kavanaugh is finding the kitchen a lot hotter place to cook than she thought. She has agreed to testify IF on her terms. Democrats vow to impeach him if confirmed. What a job to have!

My belief is than multitudes that believe themselves to be Christians are not. Church attendance deceives many to believe they are Christians but they still stand up for abortion and other anti biblical beliefs. So many of the democrats are Catholics but still support abortion and putting illegal immigrants before citizens. They spit in the face of those immigrants that labored to become citizens.

There is no way you can be a Democrat and a born again follower of Jesus christ.

These are my beliefs but may not be yours.

Anyone who does not take a stand against something that God would consider an Abomination, has self proclaimed them-self, against God!
What is Sin? How can a believer compromise the word of God, Well women have right's. worldly women that have no moral compass put their desires before the Principle's of God and Savior! Children out of wedlock, a product of one night stand's, OMG what will I do, I don't want this child, I can't afford being tied down, what about my career? And if I find the right Guy, will he want someone else's child, the list for Abortion alone just goes on, Then there are Civil right's, what is so civil in the desire's of the people of our world today, Where is the Morality in Civil, the next thing will be people will want to Marry their Pet, whatever it is!
Just remember! Our Government along with ACLU, and pure Athirst's have had their finger in the decline of the Moral Compass in this Nation, and as Sheep the People Follow.
God said to the people of Israel, return unto Me, and I, {I} will Heal your Land, So we Must Contend for the Gospel that was first delivered the Saint's, and begin to Express it to anyone and everyone. Fast and Pray that God Exposes the Evil, and have them brought to Justice, God can still Heal our Nation!
 
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It's best to avoid being tagged. So many seem to rejoice more at being of a certain denomination than of actually knowing Jesus as their savior. I suspect that multitudes of church going Lee polishers are unsaved and are convinced that they are shoo ins for heaven by tenure.

Personally I am a Christian. A jew that Jesus sent me to witness to asked n ex what denomination I was. "I'm a Christian" I answered. Then I proceeded to tell him how Jesus came and saved me outside of church walls and the baptized me in the Holy Spirit a little later with accompanying sign gifts.

Jesus was fulfilling what He still practices in Ezekiel chapter 34. Later this Jewish man Daniel Eichenbaum, became a born again Christian then chairman of the governor's prayer breakfast.

I'm convinced that if I had told him I was of thisor that denomination my words, the seed of the gospel, would have fallen on poor ground.

Let the world make tags but as Christians let us shy away from them. Some democrats may be true believers but I don't understand the association, why a Christian would want to be known as part and parcel of a decidedly militaristic pro abortion assembly. It's just troubling.
 

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It's best to avoid being tagged. So many seem to rejoice more at being of a certain denomination than of actually knowing Jesus as their savior. I suspect that multitudes of church going Lee polishers are unsaved and are convinced that they are shoo ins for heaven by tenure.

Personally I am a Christian. A jew that Jesus sent me to witness to asked n ex what denomination I was. "I'm a Christian" I answered. Then I proceeded to tell him how Jesus came and saved me outside of church walls and the baptized me in the Holy Spirit a little later with accompanying sign gifts.

Jesus was fulfilling what He still practices in Ezekiel chapter 34. Later this Jewish man Daniel Eichenbaum, became a born again Christian then chairman of the governor's prayer breakfast.

I'm convinced that if I had told him I was of thisor that denomination my words, the seed of the gospel, would have fallen on poor ground.

Let the world make tags but as Christians let us shy away from them. Some democrats may be true believers but I don't understand the association, why a Christian would want to be known as part and parcel of a decidedly militaristic pro abortion assembly. It's just troubling.

Frank, you sound like a one issue voter. It is a dangerous practice - allowing the issue of abortion to Trump a whole array of evils - disregard for the poor, for one - elects tyrants.
 
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I have a Christian friend who is Democrat. She is pro life, but believes in the rights for someone to be homosexual/to have an abortion, etc. Because she says that if you take away one right, who is to not say take away more freedoms including our freedom to worship. I definitely understand this view. I think laws are good though. God created the 10 commandments and there are a lot of laws set in the old testament. We used to be a Christian nation.
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@Frank Lee

I pray that the Roe v Wade ruling will be overturned, but I doubt anyone on Trump's list will vote to overturn it. Not even Kavanaugh.
God let Domitian and Nero become emperors. He let Hitler take control of Germany. He allows much that I don't understand. But God really is in control. The next president may, like Domitian and Nero, persecute Christians as political expediency.
Our job as Christians is to make disciples. Our duty is to give Obedience to our Lord and our King. They want us to be distracted by their circus. They do not want us to witness the Truth. But, when they arrest us, like they arrested the first Christians, we will be given center stage and we will witness the Truth to them. Until then, we simply witness to our neighbors.

Your heart is aching for the unborn martyrs. Take comfort in what the Bible says about martyrs.

Finally, remember to forgive the political fools and pray for them.

Rejoice Always!
 
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After observing political antics from all sides Ive never trusted any of them. As far as their dealings with the poor the government never gets its right. They throw our money at everything. Many poor never get helped while shrewd con artists learn how to work the system.

We still have poor and hungry, and homeless veterans are placed behind illegal immigrants.

I hold no political party in high regard it's just the lesser of two evils.

Prayer for those in power is what the bible says. But we do not see the sword of authority being used against the evil doers. They are allowed to roam free doing great crimes while lesser criminals are prosecuted.

Without the power of the Holy Spirit a denominational Christian can con himself to follow nearly any group. I observe them all but put trust in none of them. They have my prayers but not my respect or trust.
 

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The title is the post. In my brief life I've never seen so much hate, so many lies, so much adversity from those than say the are Christian and also democrats. I try to stay away from most of what is called news, the daily body count, etc. But I do want to know the gist of governmental going on like the Kavanaugh confirmation. I see that the accuser of Kavanaugh is finding the kitchen a lot hotter place to cook than she thought. She has agreed to testify IF on her terms. Democrats vow to impeach him if confirmed. What a job to have!

My belief is than multitudes that believe themselves to be Christians are not. Church attendance deceives many to believe they are Christians but they still stand up for abortion and other anti biblical beliefs. So many of the democrats are Catholics but still support abortion and putting illegal immigrants before citizens. They spit in the face of those immigrants that labored to become citizens.

There is no way you can be a Democrat and a born again follower of Jesus christ.

These are my beliefs but may not be yours.
I wonder wether calling oneself by any name is wise? Even the name 'Christian' has fifty and three interpretations.
To acknowledge being part of the human race at least puts us on a reasonably even footing of identification, anything else becomes a pretext for separation.

I need to remember that while we were yet sinners Christ died for the ungodly. I'm still working on getting my head around that one.
Sure, it's easy to parrot the words as if they are understood yet my experience tells me I haven't got close to understanding the implications. All I can do is stand in awe with mouth open.
 
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@Frank Lee

I pray that the Roe v Wade ruling will be overturned, but I doubt anyone on Trump's list will vote to overturn it. Not even Kavanaugh.
God let Domitian and Nero become emperors. He let Hitler take control of Germany. He allows much that I don't understand. But God really is in control. The next president may, like Domitian and Nero, persecute Christians as political expediency.
Our job as Christians is to make disciples. Our duty is to give Obedience to our Lord and our King. They want us to be distracted by their circus. They do not want us to witness the Truth. But, when they arrest us, like they arrested the first Christians, we will be given center stage and we will witness the Truth to them. Until then, we simply witness to our neighbors.

Your heart is aching for the unborn martyrs. Take comfort in what the Bible says about martyrs.

Finally, remember to forgive the political fools and pray for them.

Rejoice Always!
I don't think God has anything to do with giving power to governments at all.
Hitler was greatest leader the world has ever seen by far, as he turned the septic tank they were in around from a shocking life that was forced on them and they were trick by the cunning of what politics and Bankers did to the people, it was Hitler that gave the common man hope and powered up a Nation into becoming the best advanced in the world by far, without the war Germany would of wiped the floor with all of Europe economically advancement in tec, nothing came close and that's a fact that people nowadays have no idea what he was truly doing at all. it's just amazing they have no true education on him worth a cracker really at all.
Hitler was so advanced for his time that the world now is becoming much like what he was peddling now with his socialist madness of brainwashing the people with Political Correctness, but he was not trying to make people stupid and backwards like the Socialist are so intent on nowadays, creating grubs that kill healthy baby's because of there pathetic stupidity and then reward and empowering them for doing so, the same is so with the degenerates nowadays that are being rewarding or empowered them over us all.
Just look at us now a bankrupt Nation and people that are that stupid that they live beyond there means, we are living in the most pathetic generations of people the world has ever seen, that is just so full of delusions, hopeless tradesmen are everywhere now just idiots complete fools who take drugs who tell me that they are going to become very wealthy, fact is they are hopeless fools that are that stupid it just amazing. everyone of them all go bankrupt, you can not take drugs and run your own business and power on, it's all down hill that I have seen with people taking drugs.
Gong back to the 90's and before you would be back handed and kicked out of the job for being a dipstick like they are.
This generation will not make it, they are going to fail badly they are fools, they stand up to you on God, demanding it is just total crap and embrace everything that is just total rubbish or a total lie.
It's the Governments and schools that are peddling this PC madness on our kids the same type of tec art that Hitler used to brainwash with, just that it's a different agenda at hand and it's set for that as it's ends. we are going to become a Communist world where no one can or is allowed to think for themselves the Gov with do that for you and you just become a number and treated as there cattle to the slaughter, Communism has the world record of killing the most people in the world by far and not to mention getting away with it all. funny that all the new age PC smart arses don't even know that. fact is they don't know jack they all are just dupes and moronic thugs.
 
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I wonder wether calling oneself by any name is wise? Even the name 'Christian' has fifty and three interpretations.
To acknowledge being part of the human race at least puts us on a reasonably even footing of identification, anything else becomes a pretext for separation.

I need to remember that while we were yet sinners Christ died for the ungodly. I'm still working on getting my head around that one.
Sure, it's easy to parrot the words as if they are understood yet my experience tells me I haven't got close to understanding the implications. All I can do is stand in awe with mouth open.
Jesus did not die for the ungodly at all, he died that the ungodly had a hope, faith in Jesus Christ.
Every person has that chance because of what Jesus did, but they have to pick it up or they are condemned.
 

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Jesus did not die for the ungodly at all, he died that the ungodly had a hope, faith in Jesus Christ.
Every person has that chance because of what Jesus did, but they have to pick it up or they are condemned.
I have played with words for a significant part of my Christian understanding Reggie. I have found it to be a pit.
 
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After observing political antics from all sides Ive never trusted any of them. As far as their dealings with the poor the government never gets its right. They throw our money at everything. Many poor never get helped while shrewd con artists learn how to work the system.

We still have poor and hungry, and homeless veterans are placed behind illegal immigrants.

I hold no political party in high regard it's just the lesser of two evils.

Prayer for those in power is what the bible says. But we do not see the sword of authority being used against the evil doers. They are allowed to roam free doing great crimes while lesser criminals are prosecuted.

Without the power of the Holy Spirit a denominational Christian can con himself to follow nearly any group. I observe them all but put trust in none of them. They have my prayers but not my respect or trust.
Political party's have there backers who hide in the shadows, we do not see them, it's like a hand up the back of the puppet or playing the strings.
No man has total power, not even Hitler as he had his backers that he played to, they were Talmud Zionist bankers who controlled him and used the German people not to mention all the world like a treat for themselves, to laugh at just how stupid and foolish that the goyim are, it's easy as to control fools when you have the know how and can use tax payers money to do it. they are rolling around on the ground pissing themselves laughing at just how easy it is to do.
 

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I'm certain that God desired that Jesus' followers be called Christians since it is specifically documented. Things in the Bible are there for a reason. MHO

Acts 11:26 KJVS
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
 
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"New Testament writings refer to two cities of the same name: Antioch of Syria and Antioch of Pisidia. A family of Syrian kings who ruled much of Asia under the name Antiochus built both cities. The most infamous of these kings was Antiochus IV, whom Polybius called a “madman” because of his unstable personality. During his reign (175-164 B.C.E.) Jews revolted against his harsh treatment. In return, Antiochus IV outlawed Jewish practices and in 167 B.C.E. dedicated the altar of the Jerusalem temple to Zeus. When Antiochus IV executed Jews who refused to give up their Scriptures or their piety, many fled Jerusalem. Some went south to Egypt; others went north to Syria, ironically, to seek refuge in the city fortified by the same Antiochus IV. Today Antioch of Syria sits on the border between Turkey and Syria, and the festival of Hanukkah remembers Jewish suffering under Antiochus IV." Antioch

"the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" is code, as "Christians" were perceived by the world back then as the Jewish group who wanted to overthrow the Sanhedrin and install a literal king in a literal Israel, despite Jesus' Word to the contrary.
 
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