Is Remarriage after Divorce, Adultery?

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How many believe in second marriages after divorce?

  • Only if divorce was due to sexual infidelity by the spouse?

    Votes: 8 100.0%
  • Only if a written document of divorce is given for any reason?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Allowed if there was physical abuse in the marriage?

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Allowed if spouse refused to work and help financially?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Dave L

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Dave, you were provided Matt 5:32. I can not understand for you, the
'exception' of "unfaithfulness" that was and is acceptable for divorce, BETWEEN "humans".

I can not understand for you, that a WHOLE man Joined with God, can NEVER become, "separated/DIVORCED" from God;
BECAUSE God Himself CAN NOT BE "UNFAItHFUL"...
BECAUSE the man himself, BY THE POWER OF God, CAN NOT BE "UNFAITHFUL".

God Bless,
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Divorce is not a New Covenant provision. All divorce = unforgiveness, a damnable sin, on the part of the seeker. And all remarriage after divorce is adultery, no matter the reason for the divorce.
 

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Divorce is not a New Covenant provision.
And yet it is allowed under specific circumstances in the New Testament.

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. (Mt 19:9)

But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. (1 Cor 7:15)
 
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And yet it is allowed under specific circumstances in the New Testament.

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. (Mt 19:9)

But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. (1 Cor 7:15)
Not for Christians. We must forgive or remain unforgiven. Paul says if an unbeliever divorces a believer, the believer is not enslaved (under bondage), but they must either reconcile or remain single.
 

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And yet it is allowed under specific circumstances in the New Testament.

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. (Mt 19:9)

But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. (1 Cor 7:15)

Notice what those two things have in common. It's not the Christian who leaves the marriage, it's the spouse. Under no circumstances does a follower of Christ break a marriage relationship. I know, some people will accuse me of misandry, but it's always a sin for a man to leave a marriage regardless of how miserable and abused he may be. We're called to righteousness, not comfort. Besides, men, if you're miserable, maybe you should be doing something different. Stop blaming your wife like it's one-sided. You chose her in the first place, decisions have consequences, and I don't believe she changed from the person you married. I'm so tried of whiny men who claim to be Christian but always trying to argue for excuses not to follow God's teaching.
 

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Notice what those two things have in common. It's not the Christian who leaves the marriage, it's the spouse. Under no circumstances does a follower of Christ break a marriage relationship. I know, some people will accuse me of misandry, but it's always a sin for a man to leave a marriage regardless of how miserable and abused he may be. We're called to righteousness, not comfort. Besides, men, if you're miserable, maybe you should be doing something different. Stop blaming your wife like it's one-sided. You chose her in the first place, decisions have consequences, and I don't believe she changed from the person you married. I'm so tried of whiny men who claim to be Christian but always trying to argue for excuses not to follow God's teaching.


....except if a man's wife is unfaithful.
 
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In today's Church it is deemed alright to remarry after divorce by many. Some say only if adultery was involved is the innocent party free to remarry. Old denominations such as the RCC say divorce is not possible under any circumstances. I'm curious how much of our mindset is from the compromising age of Laodecia that we live in. What was the mindset of the early Christians? I like to read what they believed.

There is a piece of Christian literature from the late first century, the Shepherd of Hermas, found in the Codex Sinaiticus along with the Epistle of Barnabas also written in the 1st century, that may give us a clue as to why Montanists of the second century went so far as believing in only one marriage. For them, no second marriage was allowed, even after the death of a spouse, let alone divorce.

This same piece of literature shows that remarriage after adultery, even by the innocent party is adultery. How many of us today want to accept that as fact? Even 1 Corinthians 7 allows for divorce (not being bound) but says nothing about then being free to remarry - that we've added ourselves. In fact, at the end of the chapter it clarifies that only after the death of the party is one free to remarry. Mark 10:11-12 also shows that remarriage after divorce is adultery. I've seen some liberals say that adultery is not the unpardonable sin, so even if the two adulterers who left their spouses for one another marry, they just need to repent and are allowed to stay married to each other. How is that turning away from their sin? I doubt that God sees it that way. What a tangled mess we get into when we take sin to higher levels of sin.

Deuteronomy 24:1-4 “When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some uncleanness in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, 2 when she has departed from his house, and goes and becomes another man’s wife, 3 if the latter husband detests her and writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her as his wife, 4 then her former husband who divorced her must not take her back to be his wife after she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the Lord, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance.

The Shepherd of Hermas differs from Deuteronomy 24 in that the first husband may take back the wife if they repentant, but it must be their first repentance. In Deuteronomy this only applied to the female, as the males could have more than one wife, but why this was so is not clear, as it wasn't so from the beginning, and again not so at the time of Jesus.

Shepherd of Hermas

1[29]:1 "I charge thee, "saith he, "to keep purity, and let not a thought enter into thy heart concerning another's wife, or concerning fornication, or concerning any such like evil deeds; for in so doing thou commitest a great sin. But remember thine own wife always, and thou shalt never go wrong.

1[29]:2 For should this desire enter into thine heart, thou wilt go wrong, and should any other as evil as this, thou commitest sin. For this desire in a servant of God is a great sin; and if any man doeth this evil deed, he worketh out death for himself.

1[29]:3 Look to it therefore. Abstain from this desire; for, where holiness dwelleth, there lawlessness ought not to enter into the heart of a righteous man."

1[29]:4 I say to him, "Sir, permit me to ask thee a few more questions" "Say on," saith he. "Sir," say I, "if a man who has a wife that is faithful in the Lord detect her in adultery, doth the husband sin in living with her?"

1[29]:5 "So long as he is ignorant," saith he, "he sinneth not; but if the husband know of her sin, and the wife repent not, but continue in her fornication, and her husband live with her, he makes himself responsible for her sin and an accomplice in her adultery."

1[29]:6 "What then, Sir," say I, "shall the husband do, if the wife continue in this case?" "Let him divorce her," saith he, "and let the husband abide alone: but if after divorcing his wife he shall marry another, he likewise committeth adultery."

1[29]:7 "If then, Sir," say I, "after the wife is divorced, she repent and desire to return to her own husband, shall she not be received?"

1[29]:8 "Certainly," saith he, "if the husband receiveth her not, he sinneth and bringeth great sin upon himself; nay, one who hath sinned and repented must be received, yet not often; for there is but one repentance for the servants of God. For the sake of her repentance therefore the husband ought not to marry. This is the manner of acting enjoined on husband and wife.

1[29]:9 Not only," saith he, "is it adultery, if a man pollute his flesh, but whosoever doeth things like unto the heathen committeth adultery. If therefore in such deeds as these likewise a man continue and repent not, keep away from him, and live not with him. Otherwise, thou also art a partaker of his sin.

1[29]:10 For this cause ye were enjoined to remain single, whether husband or wife; for in such cases repentance is possible.

1[29]:11 I," said he, "am not giving an excuse that this matter should be concluded thus, but to the end that the sinner should sin no more. But as concerning his former sin, there is One Who is able to give healing; it is He Who hath authority over all things."

Yes, was not in your poll, so i didnt vote..
 

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Divorce is not a New Covenant provision. All divorce = unforgiveness, a damnable sin, on the part of the seeker. And all remarriage after divorce is adultery, no matter the reason for the divorce.

I am not interested in your opinion that expands beyond Gods Truth.
 

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A person is not truly married until you have children, then the bond can not be broken as to your duty's as such.

The RCC did always allow for divorce were one was a threat to the children or them.

Problem nowadays is many things, but the government encourage and champion divorce and this is because Satanist love nothing better than to brake up family's, not to mention create bastardised marriage like such Satanic rubbish as gays classed in the same definition is totally Satanic.
Fact is that Satan is the one who leads the whole world astray.

A partnership is what Satanist or fools can only aspire too, so a partnership should never be called a marriage. but sadly that's what the Satanist do, they work to undermine everything bastardising the definitions, so that the lowest denominator becomes the "Standard" for all who are under the yoke of Socialist gods and it's Satanic Political Correctness runs straight over anyone who is above the lowest denominator, as all must come under the power of the lowest denominator. your children are not yours they are a number under Satan's Government and you have no rights as to your children, we see this type of power is becoming more dominate as the Socialist are always working on Laws that undermine the strength of the Family unit, in ways that are very cunning.

The Governments work to let bad drugs into nations, so as to destroy the people, just as they do with many things like the schooling system is controlled by degenerates and so is what ever you want to look into, the very top brass of the military, Deans of uni etc are all degenerate creeps peddling degenerate rubbish over all. such pricks can not be questioned, we have no rights to question such people or you will be made out to be the monster and just fobbed off or tried to be made a fool of for even asking questions. sadly the average person never questions what is going on because they don't care or they can not handle the truth or it gets too hot in the kitchen for them to deal with such and freak out when they truly see the cunning and deceptions hit you ion the face.
 

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A person is not truly married until you have children, then the bond can not be broken as to your duty's as such.

What?! Lol.
My wife and I do not have children yet so I guess we are not married...Does that mean couples who do not have children can pursue someone from the opposite sex? If you're not "truly" married then it is not "truly" unfaithfulness...geez the things I read here sometimes lol.
 
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I am not interested in your opinion that expands beyond Gods Truth.

And what do you see as God's Truth that Dave expands beyond. I've tried to reconcile remarriage and it just isn't there. And Dave is right that a Christian is never to initiate divorce. Period. What happened in Moses' time is from a standpoint of hardening of the heart of stone. Not a heart of flesh.
 

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If wedding vows fall out of the mouth of a lying/abusive con artist, who proves to be incapable of living marriage vows, is that a marriage?
 
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And what do you see as God's Truth that Dave expands beyond.

You can read what he himself said in post #81.

I've tried to reconcile remarriage and it just isn't there.

Okay. So you lean toward a family unit, of mother and children without a constant father presence as favorable to God?

And Dave is right that a Christian is never to initiate divorce. Period.

Okay. Not sure how you conclude that, when the Scripture itself, gives an acceptable exception... Matt 19:9

What happened in Moses' time is from a standpoint of hardening of the heart of stone. Not a heart of flesh.

Okay.

So where in scripture is: in "Dave's words"...

Dave's quote: "all divorce = unforgiveness..

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God Bless,
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What?! Lol.
My wife and I do not have children yet so I guess we are not married...Does that mean couples who do not have children can pursue someone from the opposite sex? If you're not "truly" married then it is not "truly" unfaithfulness...geez the things I read here sometimes lol.
Consummate
 

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If a marriage is a joining of the flesh...then yes.
First, that is totally irrelevant to the quote. If wedding vows fall out of the mouth of a lying/abusive con artist, who proves to be incapable of living marriage vows, THAT IS NOT A MARRIAGE.
 
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