I am not selling the 1000 years a day theory

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wow, interesting! Thanks. We would have to disagree on some things, but such is life.
[i will not mention the sabbath in the time thing...]ANYWAYS WHAT IS A SEASON,HOW LONG IS A SEASON.perhaps we would know the season the lord comes...i will know more this summer when the three seasons begin ,then a calm less then a season .then we will be inmersed in the great storm a great tribulation the whole world will be in the storm..if i see the sign i got this week ,the three seasons will begin this summer then in the forth season we will be in the great storm....i was given a vision long ago ,if i am given the secound sign when the first sign i got unfolds this summer .then i will know that the three seasons have begone .after the three seasons there will be a calm then the great storm will happen to the earth..i do not wish to fool anyone on this an i do not wish to fool myself on this...TILL ME HOW LONG IS A SEASON TO YOU
 

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You all really don't get it,God said that for a reason,and if you have eyes to see,you should see it.It ties right into the end time generation and how we know that we are the generation that Christ said would not pass until all things are fulfilled.Do you remember what God did on the 7th day of creation?He rested!Right now He's tired and He's about to rest again.If God wants to feel tired Im sure He can,and if He wants to be associated with time, Im sure Ho can do that also.So let me ask you all this,do you know what time it is?More specifically do you know what day it is?If you have eyes to see,you would.
 

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[i will not mention the sabbath in the time thing...]ANYWAYS WHAT IS A SEASON,HOW LONG IS A SEASON.perhaps we would know the season the lord comes...i will know more this summer when the three seasons begin ,then a calm less then a season .then we will be inmersed in the great storm a great tribulation the whole world will be in the storm..if i see the sign i got this week ,the three seasons will begin this summer then in the forth season we will be in the great storm....i was given a vision long ago ,if i am given the secound sign when the first sign i got unfolds this summer .then i will know that the three seasons have begone .after the three seasons there will be a calm then the great storm will happen to the earth..i do not wish to fool anyone on this an i do not wish to fool myself on this...TILL ME HOW LONG IS A SEASON TO YOU
ok, are you asking me? seasons have beginning and ends marked by something generic that should be recognizable by those living in it. It is a way of indicating the passage of time without specifying days or length. In fact from year to year the length of a season could be variable, the point would be what "signs" indicate a change is coming. If we are ready to meet our maker right now, today; then provided we remain in that state there is nothing that might happen and no advantage to even knowing it will happen this evening or tomorrow, next year, 2010, 2012 or 3333 that would require us to "do" anything differently. Get r done today and let tomorrow come if it is God's Will.
 

Christina

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Waquinas is right We know when a season is by what we see when winter is coming we see the leaves turn colors and begin to fall this tells us the season is going to change when we see new buds come on the trees we know sping is coming in Gods word when we see the things/signs he told us of begin to happen we are to know we are in the season in this case the season of the End Times
 

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If I may, like you said it means exactly what it says. And according to this verse one is as and not equal to a thousand. When the word "as" is used it usually is in comparision and not exactly equal to.1 is as 1000 and not 1=1000. they may sound alike but they are clearly very different. I beleive it could also go something like 1 is like a thousand years.
 

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Alistein, I understand where you're coming from, but making that statement is slightly off given how the very same Gr. word, hos, is used elsewhere to mean as in is.Matthew 1:24
Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
Matthew 7:29
For he taught them as [one] having authority, and not as the scribes.
 

Alistein

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Alistein, I understand where you're coming from, but making that statement is slightly off given how the very same Gr. word, hos, is used elsewhere to mean as in is.Matthew 1:24Matthew 7:29
I don't think so. . The word "as" can obviously be used in many ways as a conjunction,adverb e.tc but the key is to judge the way it is used in the sentence. In one of your examples for instance the word "as" isn't used for comparison while it ie here. I also checked the concordance and couldn't come up with the original words however I am of the opinion the translators needn't have added as if they wanted to say is considering that adding it only expands the concept here. If a thousand years is equal to 1 day the writers should simply have written it so but if they were making comparisons then the word "as" is best in my opinion this is pretty much showing God isn't limited by time. Here is where I believe it was taken from the old testament Psalm 90:4 (King James Version)King James Version (KJV) For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.Psalm 90:4 (Amplified Bible)Amplified Bible (AMP)For a thousand years in Your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night.Psalm 90:4 (New International Version) For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night. I think the scriptures show that it is a comparison and not an exact number
 

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I have to agree with you, Alistein. I don't think it's a secret decoder ring, but an indication of the timelessness of God. And, as someone said earlier, a comfort to us, seeing as we say God has been gone so long, but God is not bound by time, and really hasn't been gone that long. Think how long the Jews were without any prophets before Jesus came.
 

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Alistein, I understand where you're coming from, but making that statement is slightly off given how the very same Gr. word, hos, is used elsewhere to mean as in is.Matthew 1:24Matthew 7:29
With the angel verse reference... there would be no problem in our language, we would add the modifier "just" and we would say it "just as." Context.In the other example, Jesus was still *compared to* someone who had authority, not equal to someone in authority. Was Jesus equal to anyone else in authority? By no means. He had far more authority than anyone, so even in this example, it can't be used to say equal because nobody is equal with Jesus in authority.The 1,000 years reference is not an equation. It's a comparison simply expressing that time does not hold chains on God to limit His power. He is outside of time.
 

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I see this topic title offending to God's Words. Not only that, I smell accusations here... let me quote a few scriptures that backed up my sister Kriss.II Peter 1:20 - Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.Isaiah 55:8-9 - For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.Rightly saying that, II Peter 3:8 - But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.Rightly saying that, nobody in bible times being in the flesh has ever lived a single Day, not even Adam whom Christ was descended from. Every single human will die less than a single Day. And I have absolutely have no problem mentioning the real Truth.
 

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For the record, I am not thrilled about the title of this thread either.No doubt about it, the Bible means what it says, and says what it means, and it is sinful to try to twist the words to say what you want it to say. I don't think anyone is debating this fact.That being said, looking at the CONTEXT, this verse is written as an encouragement to bleievers who think the Lord may be slow in coming. I personally am taking the verse at face value...turning it into a decoder ring of One Day = 1000 years is putting meaning there that wasn't intended, I believe. But it's a nitpicking issue that shouldn't divide us. Agreed?
 

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For the record, I am not thrilled about the title of this thread either.No doubt about it, the Bible means what it says, and says what it means, and it is sinful to try to twist the words to say what you want it to say. I don't think anyone is debating this fact.That being said, looking at the CONTEXT, this verse is written as an encouragement to bleievers who think the Lord may be slow in coming. I personally am taking the verse at face value...turning it into a decoder ring of One Day = 1000 years is putting meaning there that wasn't intended, I believe. But it's a nitpicking issue that shouldn't divide us. Agreed?
and one day as 1000 years,but for a past sub in time.please ask god to show you if there is three and a half years from sometime this late summer.will be the great storm that will circle the earth...i have had two sign of this .
 

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I am not selling the 1000 years a day theory. God's Word uses Genesis 1:1 to Genesis 2:3 to introduce the Seven Days of Creation. Starting at Genesis 2:4 and continuing to Revelation 22:21, details of those days are revealed. Genesis 1:1 through Genesis 2:3 gives the complete history of man, however brief, from creation unto everlasting, within a seven day format. A history extrapolated from remaining Scriptures by key terms and relevant events; beginning on the First Day with the generations of the heaven and the earth and ending on the Seventh Day, when at the ending of Time there is the completion of the formulation of Man in the Kingdom of God. The saga begins in Genesis 2:4 with the key term, “generations” (in Hebrew, תולדות: transliteration, towlĕdah), and with this term is recorded advance in days of the First Trimester.kenneth g//
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. King James Bible nothing to sell it's all free. It's the truth ain't no disputing it, sure is alot of talk about it though. I don't see why. It will not get us into Heaven or hell. Now the way we worship and conduct ourselves is worthy of discussion.Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
 

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For the record, I am not thrilled about the title of this thread either.No doubt about it, the Bible means what it says, and says what it means, and it is sinful to try to twist the words to say what you want it to say. I don't think anyone is debating this fact.That being said, looking at the CONTEXT, this verse is written as an encouragement to bleievers who think the Lord may be slow in coming. I personally am taking the verse at face value...turning it into a decoder ring of One Day = 1000 years is putting meaning there that wasn't intended, I believe. But it's a nitpicking issue that shouldn't divide us. Agreed?
Well said.
 

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What you are not taking into account is Peter and John didnt understand this to mean anything except that 1 day equals a thousand years if we assume it doesnt mean what it says then we must apply the same to other figuers of speech used in scripture as I gave you "To uncover your Fathers nakedness" if we just take this statement at face value it would seem to say its a sin to see your father naked which makes no sense We need to understand this was a figure of speech that met to lie(have sex) with your fathers wife which is what happened.One day to man is 1000 years to God is the same thing its a figure of speech commonly used by the Jews to mean 1 day= 1000 years. This is how the writters Peter/John understood this.They say the messiah (2nd coming to us) happens in the 6th day to us that is the 6th millieuim (6000) That is where we are today almost 6000 years sense Adam the jews called this 6000 years 6 Days. there is absoulty no scripture that says we are to take this any other way then it is written 1 day with the lord is 1000 years to his beloved (thats us) further I might add 1.there is plenty of time frames in Scripture that become more clear with this missing puzzel piece put into place. it makes other pieces of scripture fit, 2.it was how Peter and John understood this, 3.it goes against no other scripture, 4.it was a mystery Peter was revealing, the evidence is this is what God says,The evidence against it is 1.men didnt interpt it that way in earlier times
 

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What you are not taking into account is Peter and John didnt understand this to mean anything except that 1 day equals a thousand years if we assume it doesnt mean what it says then we must apply the same to other figuers of speech used in scripture as I gave you "To uncover your Fathers nakedness" if we just take this statement at face value it would seem to say its a sin to see your father naked which makes no sense We need to understand this was a figure of speech that met to lie(have sex) with your fathers wife which is what happened.One day to man is 1000 years to God is the same thing its a figure of speech commonly used by the Jews to mean 1 day= 1000 years. This is how the writters Peter/John understood this.They say the messiah (2nd coming to us) happens in the 6th day to us that is the 6th millieuim (6000) That is where we are today almost 6000 years sense Adam the jews called this 6000 years 6 Days. there is absoulty no scripture that says we are to take this any other way then it is written 1 day with the lord is 1000 years to his beloved (thats us) further I might add 1.there is plenty of time frames in Scripture that become more clear with this missing puzzel piece put into place. it makes other pieces of scripture fit, 2.it was how Peter and John understood this, 3.it goes against no other scripture, 4.it was a mystery Peter was revealing, the evidence is this is what God says,The evidence against it is 1.men didnt interpt it that way in earlier times
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.