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Get all you can, can all you get.
The world is unfolding as it should

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Are you construing this to be indicative of greed? Can you not see it is prudence. And self reliance. Before you say that is not trusting God, will you suggest the farmer should just go sit at the edge of his field and wait for God to make crops grow?? No plowing, no planting, no weeding, fertilizing, etc.

"And all the world came to Egypt to buy grain from Joseph, because the famine was severe everywhere."
Gen 41:57

"A good person leaves an inheritance for their children's children, but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous."
Pr 13:22
 

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Omega 3s are just one of many anti-inflammatory agents.
it happens to be the only one that your body needs to make healthy, permeable new cell walls too, though; that and cholesterol, which surprise everyone is having trouble metabolizing that alla sudden too, huh
and also the only one that has gone from like 1:2 to 1:200 in our "food" supply in our lifetimes
oops

YOUR food supply.


View media item 1101
Oats
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 23.75:1
Oats


View media item 1102
Whole Wheat
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 17:1
Whole wheat


View media item 1103
Quinoa
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 10:1
Quinoa

Brown Rice
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 20:1
Brown rice


possibly the very worst thing you can do to food wadr
i mean 40% nutrition, guaranteed? no ty
= eating "barley" imo

Barley
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 8.7:1
Barley

we buy 50 lb bags of quinoa, flax, chia, etc now and keep a tupperware deal full of a cooked mix, that can then go into anything really, from cereal to soup, or even eat a bowl plain


Good. 50lb bags. You need them! Might want to rethink the quinoa?


Olive Oil, extra virgin
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 13.2:1
Olive oil, extra virgin


Bananas
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1.6:1
Bananas

Blueberries
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1.4:1
Blueberries

Black Beans
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1.2:1
Black beans

Cantaloupe
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:1.2
Cantaloupe

Cabbage
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:1.3
Cabbage

Kale
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:1.3
Kale

Squash, summer
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:1.7
Squash, summer

Brussels Sprouts
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:2
Brussels sprouts

Turnip Greens
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:2.3
Turnip greens

Broccoli
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:2.4
Broccoli

Flax Seeds
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:3.8
Flaxseeds

Spinach
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:5.6
Spinach


really any list on the web can give you good sources i guess, any plant-based omega 3 sources,

Plant based only??

Grass Fed Beef
Beef, grass-fed
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1.4:1

Tuna

Tuna
Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio = 1:2.8


Hate to break this to you as well...

Omega 3 Absorption in Men & Flaxseed Oil Vs. Fish Oil

Fish Oil Absorption and Sources
Fish oil is rich in the omega-3 fats eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid. The health benefits of omega-3 come mostly from EPA and DHA, which are readily absorbed in the small intestine at 85 percent to 95 percent efficiency under normal conditions. Good fish oil sources include salmon, mackerel, sardines and tuna. Most healthy men should aim for two servings of fish per week. You can also consume EPA and DHA in fish oil capsules. If you are considering taking fish oil supplements, check with your doctor for dosing recommendations.

Flaxseed Oil Absorption
Flaxseed oil contains the omega-3 fat alpha-linolenic acid. ALA needs to be converted in the body to DHA and EPA, and the process is not very efficient. In men, only about 8 percent of dietary ALA is converted to EPA, and 0.4 percent of ALA is converted to DHA. In women, the respective percentages are 21 percent and 8 percent. There is not enough evidence to show if one type of fat is better than the other, but both fish oil and flaxseed oil sources of omega-3 seem to be beneficial. Grind fresh flaxseeds before you consume them to ensure you absorb the omega-3 fats. ALA can also be found in other plant sources like soybeans, pumpkin seeds and walnuts.


"My people perish for lack of knowledge."


If you want to eat inefficient 'health food' that needs to be enriched just to balance it, then go ahead. But you can keep all that inflammation producing Hi-Test Horse Hash for yourself.

Maybe if you spent more time learning and less time attacking people then we'd ALL be better off.

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so then leave it, as you were told to do
well, He isn't gonna ok
oh, you can eat your children if you stay on that path, the one you are lamping for us right now?
gee thanks, got some porn for us too, neat

I wonder if our votes even count. I'm beginning to think they don't.

It appears that Brakelite got it right about the Catholic church.

Sea Beast of Revelation 13 - The Bible Antichrist
 

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Guaranteed?? Can you quote a credible source?

I agree right up front that vitamin C is reduced due to heat. As are a few other unstable nutrients. But most remain intact or are minimally affected. Some are actually enhanced and many plants foods are made more digestible due to cooking.
yes, there are a few exceptions, i think even in those it is understood a trade-off of nutrients is accomplished though, iow eat spinach raw for x nutrients, cooked for y nutrients, like that. But in general i think it is accepted that canned food has less nutrition, prolly half that of dried, and quite a bit less than half of cultured food, which who does that right? Anarchists/Anabaptist types, and hippies, i guess
 
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I wonder if our votes even count. I'm beginning to think they don't.

It appears that Brakelite got it right about the Catholic church.

Sea Beast of Revelation 13 - The Bible Antichrist
SG, here's something else to consider based on Revelation 13

Composites. We see them everywhere. They are all about us. They are called people. Every single person on the planet is a composite of his ancestors. DNA inherited from the sum total of all who have gone before make up what we are today. Although we are individuals, and unique, that uniqueness is bound up in our inherited genes.

With that in mind I would like to discuss one of the most intriguing composites on the planet. Not an individual, but an institution. Described as a ‘beast’ in Revelation 13, this beast has had many Biblical scholars both university educated and self taught, deeply embroiled in debate, argument, and discussion for nearly 2000 years. This beast has been the focus of attention with far more intensity in the past 150 years or so as the church recognises the signs of the second coming approaching, thus study with more interest those prophecies which reveal events, and characters which are pertinent to the ‘last days’.

It is the nature of the composites, those things which form the beast, that I will focus on.

Revelation 13:1 ¶ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Revel. 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

We see here a kingdom rising up in a populous part of the earth, in this case the capital of the then superpower, Rome.

When compared with

Revel.12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

…we see that whatever this beast is, it is a clone of Satan, the dragon, himself. This is his baby so to speak, his own creation, made after his own likeness.

Revel. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The Apostle John from his vantage point was looking backwards in time and seeing the same beasts of Daniel 7 only in reverse order. Daniel was looking forward, John back. Thus what John was seeing was a beast that had already begun to rise to power in his day. This gels with his comment in one of his letters that states that ” even now are there many antichrists”. The spirit that gave rise to the one Antichrist had begun to develop and was seen in several different forms in Johns lifetime. This beast is a composite of all that had gone before. Those characteristics which marked the uniqueness and nature of the previous powers were now resident in this one.

Like unto a leopard….
Nothing in nature, be they plants, animals, reptiles, birds, nor fish, can lie, not having the power of speech, but they can deceive. Deception is attained through appearance, or camouflage. And deception Jesus said, would be Satan’s principle weapon of choice in the last days. The leopard is a prime example of camouflage. The leopard, unlike the tiger or the lion, for the most part does not stalk its prey. It patiently lies in wait, in all appearance an innocent part of the foliage, until its prey come to him, then the leopard strikes. The papacy is of very similar character. An attractive and seemingly innocent part of the Christian landscape, but deceptively dangerous. Patience is the hallmark of the Catholic church. For 400 years she has waited for the counter reformation to bear fruit, and today we witness hundreds of priests and lay people from other faiths and denominations now returning to the ‘mother church’. Hundreds of years she has waited for her opportunity to rise again to her former glory. Her ambitions are now global, take note of the following from a very recent news report:
The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises…..A proposal by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace calls for a new world economic order based on ethics and the “achievement of a universal common good.” It follows Pope BenedictXVI’s 2009 economic encyclical that denounced a profit-at-all-cost mentality as responsible for the global financial meltdown.


Read more: Vatican Calls For Global Authority On Economy | Fox Business
Isn’t this interesting? Particularly when one considers the prophetic implications of an international authority with the power to enforce a religious mark using economic boycotts to encourage subservience.

Notice one more thing about leopards. Jesus Himself significantly remarked that a leopard cannot change her spots. It is worthwhile to note that many protestants today would claim that the papacy has changed. That she has mellowed from her former harsh judgemental attitudes which marked her history throughout the dark ages. But can a leopard change her character? No.
Jer. 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

The feet of a bear….

Death is, until the resurrection, like a deep dreamless sleep. In 1798 the papacy, as we saw previously, received its deadly head-wound (Verse 3) when the then pope was taken captive by the French, and the Catholic church ‘ceased to range over the country-side’ like a bear and went into hibernation until 1929 when Mussolini returned to the Vatican, and the pope, the civil power which had been taken from her. Once again she was a church/state power, the unique distinction which marks her pagan beginnings.
The feet and claws of a bear are her most powerful weapons: one strike can rip open her prey, killing instantly. The injunction in Daniel 7:5 of the bear/Media-Persia to “devour much flesh” is very apt when applied to such a beast as a bear which has a ravenous appetite especially after hibernation. Whether in hibernation, or as a leopard or bear, whether in patient hiding or as a ravenous beast on the hunt, the Vatican will do whatever is necessary to achieve her goals…global dominion.
An interesting point regarding this particular bear. The Media/Persians, which nation was represented by the bear in Daniel, were renowned as lawmakers.

Daniel 6:8 Now, O king, establish the decree, and sign the writing, that it be not changed, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not.


“Why does the Catholic church not recant what was said by Trent…because it is Catholic teaching that a council teaches authoritatively, and the church is not authorised to repudiate retrospectively a conciliar decree”.
John Neuhaus.

Every principle of the papacy that existed in past ages exists today.The doctrines devised in the darkest ages are still held. The leopard has not, indeed cannot, change her spots. The laws, canons, and various decrees which vaunted the papal power’s presumed authority to torture, to wage war, and to destroy all who believe in their God given right to freedom of conscience, still exist today. Not one has been abrogated or altered. Their own dogma regarding infallibility forbids any change to that which has been officially legislated as articles of doctrine in the dogmas and canons of the Catholic Church. The inquisition, torture, and burning of heretics in past ages are still looked upon by the ruling councils of the Vatican as justifiable, lawful, and at times even necessary.


mouth of a lion….


Ask a native of Africa what the most fearsome sound is in the African bush and all would agree that it is the roar of the lion. Various bulls and pronouncements from popes and his representatives have for centuries sent chills of fear and dread down the spines of kings and common man alike. There was a time, until the late 18th century, when a pronouncement of excommunication from the church could send an entire nation into a state of fear of eternal damnation in the fires of hell. Like the devil, “as a roaring lion walketh about seeking who he may devour” the papacy has no true authority in spiritual matters. It is the fear, rather than the popes' words themselves, that has destroyed the faith of millions. “But we have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but rather the spirit of adoption” (Romans 8:15) “and of power, and of love, and a sound mind”. (2 Tim. 1:7) Notice the mouth “speaking great things and blasphemies” (Rev.13:15). Since its re-establishment in 1929, the Vatican has slowly but surely wooed herself into becoming once again a world power, and presidents and royalty alike present themselves to the pope bowing before him, kissing the ring upon his finger, and wait in awe and reverence to hear his words….”and all the world wonders after the beast”. (Revel. 13:5)
 
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Dragon/Satan.

  1. His place in heaven (Rev 12:3,7,8.)
  2. He has a throne. (Rev 13:2, 2:13)
  3. Gives throne, power, and authority to sea-beast. (13:2,4.)
  4. He is worshipped. (13:4a)
  5. Destroyed forever. (20:9,10)
Now compare:
God the Father

  1. Dwelling in heaven (Rev 4,5)
  2. He has a throne. (4:5; 7:9-15; 19:4)
  3. Gives throne, power and authority to Jesus. (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27; 3:21; chapters 4,5.)
  4. Is worshipped. (Rev 4:10; 15:4)
  5. Lives and reign forever. (4:9; 5:13; 11:15)
The Land-beast or false prophet.

  1. Called the false prophet because he decieves people with regards to religious matters. (16:13; 19:20; 20:10)
  2. Lamb-like. (13:11)
  3. Exercises all authority of sea-beast. (13:12a)
  4. Directs worship to sea-beast. (13:12b,15)
  5. Performs signs. (13:13; 19:20)
  6. Brings fire down from heaven (13:13)
  7. Gives breath/life to beasts image (13:15)
  8. Applies mark of beast. (13:16)
Now compare:
The Holy Spirit

  1. Called the Spirit of truth guiding people. (Jn 16:13 Rev 22:17)
  2. Christ-like. (Jn 1426; 16:14)
  3. Exercises authority of Christ (Jn 16:13,14)
  4. Directs peoples attention to Christ (Acts 5:29-32)
  5. Grants gifts..gift of miracles eg.(1 Cor. 12:8-11)
  6. Fire from heaven at Pentecost (Acts 2)
  7. Instills life to us, the image of Christ, ‘Christ in us the hope of glory’… (Romans8:8-11,29)
  8. Applies seal of God. (2 Cor 1:22 Eph 1:13 4:30 Rev 7:3,4.)
The sea-beast or antichrist.

  1. Comes from water to begin activity. (13:1)
  2. Resembles dragon. (12:13 13:1)
  3. Ten diadems. (13:1)
  4. Ten horns (13:1)
  5. Receives power throne and authority from dragon/Satan. (13:2,4)
  6. 42 months of activity in first phase. (13:5)
  7. Was slain (13:3)
  8. Resurrected (13:3)
  9. Receives worship after healing (13:3,4,8)
Now compare:
Jesus Christ

  1. Comes from water to begin ministry (Luke 3:21-23)
  2. Resembles Father (Jn 14:19)
  3. Many diadems (Rev 19:12)
  4. Lamb has 7 horns (5:6)
  5. Receives power throne and authority from His Father (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27 Chapters 4,5)
  6. 42 months of ministry in initial phase. (Gospel of John)
  7. Was slain (Rev 5:6)
  8. Was resurrected (Rev1:18)
  9. Received worship after resurrection (Math 28:17)
 
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I do however believe that your somewhat myopic view that omega-3 matters to the exclusion of nearly every other micro/macro nutrient or nutritional consideration is a bit overly simplistic.
i def agree, but ppl are easily overwhelmed here, and in my experience getting ppl started down the O3 path hooks them up with the ppl that are hip to proper nutrition if they are committed, plus the O3 eventually causes an increase in the absorption of the other essentials, even if that is mostly the job for the gut bacteria. O3 is just the easiest in, in my experience. Very tough to get ppl to address Candida infections, etc
 

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Why do you talk to this person this way? Eating children?? Such vulgarity. Why do you talk to any person this way?
ah, bc i hope to offend/shock them to death and possibly change their minds, B.
"God will let you eat your children" is the answer to "How much worse can things get?" regardless of my feelings on the matter imo, i mean really, how much better can things get anyway? "Trust that all of your worst fears are going to manifest, every single one of them" did not seem to be working, but i can shortly justify either one with Scripture if that is what you are asking?

Fwiw i would never, ever say this to someone IRL
bc i am gutless i guess, dunno

"Man, i got it pressed down, shaken together, running over; how much worse can things get?"

See? One of these things is not like the other, right.
This "believer" asked a serious, valid Q and i gave the answer that imo they needed very badly to hear
 
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Porn?? Where did you derive that from?
well, it's sickening right, that was even stipulated, and so obv i am not able to rectify it with dwell on these things, but i can rectify it with peering in
actual porn would be much less offensive imo
You're not sickened by the downward spiral of society?
wadr what do you expect a Passing Away to look like?

My society is not spiraling downward, i can't even figure out why i got it so good tbh, i certainly don't deserve it that i can see.
As you have even remarked, i'm a pretty horrible person i guess
Where you like this before Omega-3s or were you worse?
ha no, before O3 i was wondering how it could get much worse B
tho i don't credit the O3 for that, that was strictly a side-effect
almost surely probably
@Soverign Grace This is foreign to me. Texas has changed and is changing, but this kind of stuff is not tolerated in public. White, brown, black... red, blue... this kind of stuff does not happen here. 'Men' don't stand around for this kind of thing. Its just repugnant. On a 'Christian' board no less. Don't worry about what's 'out there'. There is plenty in here.
pleased to meet you; hope you guessed my name

i mean stand around and let believers assure you that things are getting worse by the second if you like, and blame it all on Muslims too if you want, it's certainly popular here just like in Tx i guess, at least in Alief
 
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Hate to break this to you as well...
hey, that's good stuff, i'm not disagreeing. My premise there is that having now determined an "ideal" source we tend to focus on it to the exclusion of everything else, so maybe if i suggest 100% and get even 50% they will be ahead of the game. Which on that note, what is your opinion on this artificially "spiking" the O3 in fish oil caps, how might this alter your argument? ty
If you want to eat inefficient 'health food' that needs to be enriched just to balance it, then go ahead.
ah, what was "enriched?" sorry, i can't find it
Plant based only?
hey, i love meat ok, but i also recognize that we consume way too much of it already, hence my current position there
plus the dangers of CAFO protein are not really being addressed there, which that beef is not CAFO, see, CAFO beef does not have that profile, so CAFO beef is being inferred but the profile there is for grass-fed beef, etc

bam eat some wild-caught salmon, eat some sardines
once or twice a week
But you can keep all that inflammation producing Hi-Test Horse Hash for yourself.
well, i can say that i am practicing what i am preaching, and inflammation particularly is what i don't have any of, i didn't quite get what is producing the inflammation you ref? But that is a central point, so imo if i am just being blind there and you were clear on where this inflammation is coming from, my apologies. i'll go read again, i might catch it
 
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I wonder if our votes even count. I'm beginning to think they don't.
i vote with my feet :)
beautiful are the feet
It appears that Brakelite got it right about the Catholic church.
well, imo that could be applied to any "church" right, i don't think it is very constructive to conflate the RCC with Catholics, which is how most of our Catholic brothers would surely interpret that.

I found myself Standing There in that place too--and i see that it could happen again even--so i don't see much point in pointing out someone else doing it just bc they are more prominent. Yes, the papacy is an expression of antichrist imo; but Protestant Oracles are surely no less so? And despite all this, humility is hardly the first term generally applied to me i guess either lol

personally i find it unseemly to remove this Boundary Stone between Catholic and Chr...Protestant, strikes me as a ratings grab, let's put two siamese fighting fish together and see what happens! kinda thing
 
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SG, here's something else to consider based on Revelation 13

Composites. We see them everywhere. They are all about us. They are called people. Every single person on the planet is a composite of his ancestors. DNA inherited from the sum total of all who have gone before make up what we are today. Although we are individuals, and unique, that uniqueness is bound up in our inherited genes.

With that in mind I would like to discuss one of the most intriguing composites on the planet. Not an individual, but an institution. Described as a ‘beast’ in Revelation 13, this beast has had many Biblical scholars both university educated and self taught, deeply embroiled in debate, argument, and discussion for nearly 2000 years. This beast has been the focus of attention with far more intensity in the past 150 years or so as the church recognises the signs of the second coming approaching, thus study with more interest those prophecies which reveal events, and characters which are pertinent to the ‘last days’.

It is the nature of the composites, those things which form the beast, that I will focus on.

Revelation 13:1 ¶ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Revel. 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

We see here a kingdom rising up in a populous part of the earth, in this case the capital of the then superpower, Rome.

When compared with

Revel.12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

…we see that whatever this beast is, it is a clone of Satan, the dragon, himself. This is his baby so to speak, his own creation, made after his own likeness.

Revel. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The Apostle John from his vantage point was looking backwards in time and seeing the same beasts of Daniel 7 only in reverse order. Daniel was looking forward, John back. Thus what John was seeing was a beast that had already begun to rise to power in his day. This gels with his comment in one of his letters that states that ” even now are there many antichrists”. The spirit that gave rise to the one Antichrist had begun to develop and was seen in several different forms in Johns lifetime. This beast is a composite of all that had gone before. Those characteristics which marked the uniqueness and nature of the previous powers were now resident in this one.

Like unto a leopard….
Nothing in nature, be they plants, animals, reptiles, birds, nor fish, can lie, not having the power of speech, but they can deceive. Deception is attained through appearance, or camouflage. And deception Jesus said, would be Satan’s principle weapon of choice in the last days. The leopard is a prime example of camouflage. The leopard, unlike the tiger or the lion, for the most part does not stalk its prey. It patiently lies in wait, in all appearance an innocent part of the foliage, until its prey come to him, then the leopard strikes. The papacy is of very similar character. An attractive and seemingly innocent part of the Christian landscape, but deceptively dangerous. Patience is the hallmark of the Catholic church. For 400 years she has waited for the counter reformation to bear fruit, and today we witness hundreds of priests and lay people from other faiths and denominations now returning to the ‘mother church’. Hundreds of years she has waited for her opportunity to rise again to her former glory. Her ambitions are now global, take note of the following from a very recent news report:
The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises…..A proposal by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace calls for a new world economic order based on ethics and the “achievement of a universal common good.” It follows Pope BenedictXVI’s 2009 economic encyclical that denounced a profit-at-all-cost mentality as responsible for the global financial meltdown.


Read more: Vatican Calls For Global Authority On Economy | Fox Business
Isn’t this interesting? Particularly when one considers the prophetic implications of an international authority with the power to enforce a religious mark using economic boycotts to encourage subservience.

Notice one more thing about leopards. Jesus Himself significantly remarked that a leopard cannot change her spots. It is worthwhile to note that many protestants today would claim that the papacy has changed. That she has mellowed from her former harsh judgemental attitudes which marked her history throughout the dark ages. But can a leopard change her character? No.
Jer. 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

The feet of a bear….

Death is, until the resurrection, like a deep dreamless sleep. In 1798 the papacy, as we saw previously, received its deadly head-wound (Verse 3) when the then pope was taken captive by the French, and the Catholic church ‘ceased to range over the country-side’ like a bear and went into hibernation until 1929 when Mussolini returned to the Vatican, and the pope, the civil power which had been taken from her. Once again she was a church/state power, the unique distinction which marks her pagan beginnings.
The feet and claws of a bear are her most powerful weapons: one strike can rip open her prey, killing instantly. The injunction in Daniel 7:5 of the bear/Media-Persia to “devour much flesh” is very apt when applied to such a beast as a bear which has a ravenous appetite especially after hibernation. Whether in hibernation, or as a leopard or bear, whether in patient hiding or as a ravenous beast on the hunt, the Vatican will do whatever is necessary to achieve her goals…global dominion.
An interesting point regarding this particular bear. The Media/Persians, which nation was represented by the bear in Daniel, were renowned as lawmakers.

Daniel 6:8 Now, O king, establish the decree, and sign the writing, that it be not changed, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not.


“Why does the Catholic church not recant what was said by Trent…because it is Catholic teaching that a council teaches authoritatively, and the church is not authorised to repudiate retrospectively a conciliar decree”.
John Neuhaus.

Every principle of the papacy that existed in past ages exists today.The doctrines devised in the darkest ages are still held. The leopard has not, indeed cannot, change her spots. The laws, canons, and various decrees which vaunted the papal power’s presumed authority to torture, to wage war, and to destroy all who believe in their God given right to freedom of conscience, still exist today. Not one has been abrogated or altered. Their own dogma regarding infallibility forbids any change to that which has been officially legislated as articles of doctrine in the dogmas and canons of the Catholic Church. The inquisition, torture, and burning of heretics in past ages are still looked upon by the ruling councils of the Vatican as justifiable, lawful, and at times even necessary.


mouth of a lion….


Ask a native of Africa what the most fearsome sound is in the African bush and all would agree that it is the roar of the lion. Various bulls and pronouncements from popes and his representatives have for centuries sent chills of fear and dread down the spines of kings and common man alike. There was a time, until the late 18th century, when a pronouncement of excommunication from the church could send an entire nation into a state of fear of eternal damnation in the fires of hell. Like the devil, “as a roaring lion walketh about seeking who he may devour” the papacy has no true authority in spiritual matters. It is the fear, rather than the popes' words themselves, that has destroyed the faith of millions. “But we have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but rather the spirit of adoption” (Romans 8:15) “and of power, and of love, and a sound mind”. (2 Tim. 1:7) Notice the mouth “speaking great things and blasphemies” (Rev.13:15). Since its re-establishment in 1929, the Vatican has slowly but surely wooed herself into becoming once again a world power, and presidents and royalty alike present themselves to the pope bowing before him, kissing the ring upon his finger, and wait in awe and reverence to hear his words….”and all the world wonders after the beast”. (Revel. 13:5)
 

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It wouldn't let me post for some reason. In response to Brakelite:
That's a lot to digest. I think you're onto something because I began researching it. It makes this verse look like it fits: To the church in Smyrna, Jesus says, “I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan” (Revelation 2:9).

We went to bible study and the pastor asked if any of us had been Catholics. I was the only one who had been raised Catholic. I then remarked that the Catholic church may be the beast and everyone just looked at me. The pastor didn't say anything and just continued on. So it looks like it's a foreign teaching to some. I think a good deal of the church got lost in pot-luck suppers and what music to play. I'm continuing in my research on this. I appreciate learning about what you have learned.

I have such a feeling that something is going to happen. I don't why or if it's just that I've learned too many frightening things but I think it all has to be close to unfolding.
 

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Sorry I missed this. Its been one of those days.

Yes, bottled water. I drink bottled water all the time. Usually 1 gallon jugs of distilled water for less than $1 each. One of the very few luxuries I indulge in. It is also an investment in health IMO. I have a water well that is suspect. But I would drink from it if I had to. Around here people clean their tubs and fill them too. Yeah... I know. But if you get thristy enough it can be life saving. Try to get 1 gallon per person per day. Drink it anyway and leave the jugs empty. Later, when something comes along, refill them ahead of time. Minimal leaching. Which is a genuine concern. Keep them out of the sun because that I understand causes the most leaching. Trust me, if you only knew what the insides of your supply side plumbing pipes looked like. (Not helping again am I??) A decent little water filtration unit is a good investment. Any setup up like a propane grill or turkey fryer that could boil water in bulk is nice to have.

For food, non-refrigerated items are essential for loss of power situations. Peanut butter, crackers, bread, canned goods for sure. There are endless lists on the internet. Even breakfast cereal can be eaten dry if needed. You'd be surprised how hungry you can get and what becomes appealing! Roast marshmallows. Have a picnic. Buy stuff you like though. An amateur mistake I made was to buy survival foods that I did not like. Buy non-perishable stuff in excess and rotate your stock. But some fun stuff too. During such times even a little 'treat' is of greater value than normal. Since most other usual luxuries are not there.

Then medicines, vitamins, first aid items, flashlights/torches, batteries, weather radio, something to charge your smart phone, the list can grow quite long.

These are some basic ideas about short term events. If you are talking about something many months or years long, you basically have to design your life around it. And it simply may not be worth the hassle? Growing a garden, having solar power, raising chickens, and so on. That becomes a true self sufficiency scheme. I have been attempting to relocate for years now and have put off those kinds of measures until I settle in. But intend to do it. As much for quality and convenience and maybe even a hobby that pays me!?

The Latter Day Saints (Mormons) are quite adept at this. I have a gasoline generator or two, but a simple inverter plugged into a car cigarette receptacle can recharge phones, power a laptop which itself powers my wifi hot spot and even run a small flat panel TV.

Have a little fun. Turn off all your power (except for fridge and other things, but pretend the food in them has spoiled) and see what you miss first. Then do something about that.

You can't fix it all, but doing something and being even moderately prepared can remove a huge amount of the angst during such times. Each person can make a choice about the use of lethal means to defend themselves and their supplies. Though having a little bit extra for an unsaved unprepared neighbor can go a long way to witnessing. But generally I do not talk about what I have or do not have to strangers in person locally. In the 1930s people put on suits and stood in soup lines. Today, as you have correctly ascertained, they'll slit your throat. So a certain amount of prudence is in order. It is very tmepting to tell people so that they will see and do for themselves. Many people think "Why bother? I'll just go impose upon the ones I know that are prepare should something happen." Sad, but these are such times.

As far as hiding out for 3.5 years or something like that, in this day and age of weaponized drones, electronic money and purchases, robot soldiers, smart phones that rat you out and all the rest, what can a person really do about that? Makes too many overt preps and you end up on some list some where.

Start off with the idea of camping out for a few days. Nothing regarding the physical needs will empower you like taking even the most minimal steps. But water is basically priority one. Food second. Shelter/clothing. Those two are usually fine. Short to medium term. After that, besides meds or any other life saving thing, it is truly luxuries that we all are spoiled by. But the Flesh will scream about them! Under the stress of an event is not the best time to work on cessation goals.

Buying food you normally would not eat is usually a waste. Bulk up on those non-perishables that ordinarily enjoy during sales. You'll be ahead whether good times or bad.

Somebody should start a thread.

Hope this helps.

How long have you been prepping for? We put some things aside but not a lot. If there is a nuclear war there won't be any way to escape it. That's what scares me. Why so many Americans sit idly by as our borders are crashed is beyond me. All it takes is one person and we're toast. Now with Dems in the seat of the House I think it's going to cause civil unrest. Just my guess though - the two groups have gotten more polarized and I see trouble ahead.
 

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Dragon/Satan.

  1. His place in heaven (Rev 12:3,7,8.)
  2. He has a throne. (Rev 13:2, 2:13)
  3. Gives throne, power, and authority to sea-beast. (13:2,4.)
  4. He is worshipped. (13:4a)
  5. Destroyed forever. (20:9,10)
Now compare:
God the Father

  1. Dwelling in heaven (Rev 4,5)
  2. He has a throne. (4:5; 7:9-15; 19:4)
  3. Gives throne, power and authority to Jesus. (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27; 3:21; chapters 4,5.)
  4. Is worshipped. (Rev 4:10; 15:4)
  5. Lives and reign forever. (4:9; 5:13; 11:15)
The Land-beast or false prophet.

  1. Called the false prophet because he decieves people with regards to religious matters. (16:13; 19:20; 20:10)
  2. Lamb-like. (13:11)
  3. Exercises all authority of sea-beast. (13:12a)
  4. Directs worship to sea-beast. (13:12b,15)
  5. Performs signs. (13:13; 19:20)
  6. Brings fire down from heaven (13:13)
  7. Gives breath/life to beasts image (13:15)
  8. Applies mark of beast. (13:16)
Now compare:
The Holy Spirit

  1. Called the Spirit of truth guiding people. (Jn 16:13 Rev 22:17)
  2. Christ-like. (Jn 1426; 16:14)
  3. Exercises authority of Christ (Jn 16:13,14)
  4. Directs peoples attention to Christ (Acts 5:29-32)
  5. Grants gifts..gift of miracles eg.(1 Cor. 12:8-11)
  6. Fire from heaven at Pentecost (Acts 2)
  7. Instills life to us, the image of Christ, ‘Christ in us the hope of glory’… (Romans8:8-11,29)
  8. Applies seal of God. (2 Cor 1:22 Eph 1:13 4:30 Rev 7:3,4.)
The sea-beast or antichrist.

  1. Comes from water to begin activity. (13:1)
  2. Resembles dragon. (12:13 13:1)
  3. Ten diadems. (13:1)
  4. Ten horns (13:1)
  5. Receives power throne and authority from dragon/Satan. (13:2,4)
  6. 42 months of activity in first phase. (13:5)
  7. Was slain (13:3)
  8. Resurrected (13:3)
  9. Receives worship after healing (13:3,4,8)
Now compare:
Jesus Christ

  1. Comes from water to begin ministry (Luke 3:21-23)
  2. Resembles Father (Jn 14:19)
  3. Many diadems (Rev 19:12)
  4. Lamb has 7 horns (5:6)
  5. Receives power throne and authority from His Father (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27 Chapters 4,5)
  6. 42 months of ministry in initial phase. (Gospel of John)
  7. Was slain (Rev 5:6)
  8. Was resurrected (Rev1:18)
  9. Received worship after resurrection (Math 28:17)

I had a difficult morning and had to come back to this. I appreciate this because it's helping to open up Revelations. When people worship the dragon or the beast are they going to know who it is they're worshipping or are they going to be deceived?

Who is the false prophet then - the Pope or someone else? It would seem to fit the Pope since he acts "lamb-like" but we know he's inwardly a ravenous wolf. I'm going to ask the pastors at bible study next week if we make it, if they know about the RCC being the beast. I was shocked on Walter Veith's video where he showed where Islam and the RCC use the same symbols. It was shocking to see the demonic symbolism in the RCC photos. I really appreciate you sharing them. It's helped to piece together what I've been learning about Revelations. It gets a little overwhelming when your eyes are opened - you really look around and see how great the deceptions are and so many are deceived. Years ago an assistant pastor had spoke against the Catholic Church and I didn't know why. I don't know if he knew all this or whether he just had a dislike for some of their doctrines.
 
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I had a difficult morning and had to come back to this. I appreciate this because it's helping to open up Revelations. When people worship the dragon or the beast are they going to know who it is they're worshipping or are they going to be deceived?

Who is the false prophet then - the Pope or someone else? It would seem to fit the Pope since he acts "lamb-like" but we know he's inwardly a ravenous wolf. I'm going to ask the pastors at bible study next week if we make it, if they know about the RCC being the beast. I was shocked on Walter Veith's video where he showed where Islam and the RCC use the same symbols. It was shocking to see the demonic symbolism in the RCC photos. I really appreciate you sharing them. It's helped to piece together what I've been learning about Revelations. It gets a little overwhelming when your eyes are opened - you really look around and see how great the deceptions are and so many are deceived. Years ago an assistant pastor had spoke against the Catholic Church and I didn't know why. I don't know if he knew all this or whether he just had a dislike for some of their doctrines.
Have you read the part in Revelation 13 that speaks of an image to the beast being set up? The beast itself is a union of church and state. The Vatican RCC system. The papacy. The image, set up by the second beast, the false prophet, is also a church /state union, which enforces loyalty to the first beast , the RCC. That second beast, which 'grew up like a lamb (Christlike offering freedom and independence of thought in contrast to the dragon) ended up speaking like a dragon. Speaking of coercion. Threatening persecution. Becoming a despotic power rather than republican which guarantees minorities are protected. Starting to ring a bell? Yes, that second beast is America, which will set up an image to the first beast, a church/state union (but Protestant) which will enforce loyalty to Rome through the implementation of the mark. Rome's own precious created baby...Sunday sacredness.