Are you mocking YHVH?

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thisistheendtimes

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Everything BEFORE the spirit (Bereans tradition, Jewish ancient scriptures, names "Elohim", "Jehovah", etc.) is not for our concern (John 7:39). ONLY the NEW Testament spirit (God is LOVE, "the GREATEST of these, 1 Corinthians 13:13) is our manner of worship in spirit and truth. Jesus is our foundation, but having/living the spirit is the GUARANTEE of eternal life (2 Corinthians 1:22 and 5:5, Ephesians 1:14). You are doing the works of God (John 6:28 and 29) and will learn a "MORE EXCELLENT WAY" (1 Corinthians 12:31) by believing in Him. You can make the choice to be taught the PERFECT law by the spirit (James 1:25 and 2:12) because the 'sin laws' were abolished (Ephesians 2:15). We shouldn't be calling God any of the old names except His name FOREVER "I am who I am" (Exodus 3:14). Now that He sent His son, NEW Testament Christianity is not based on ancient practices, it is based on our repentance in Christ by walking in the "spirit' ("WALK BY THE SPIRIT" Galatians 5:16 and 25).Christianity has always had the "strong delusion" because of a lack of dedication to TRUTH (2 Thessalonians 2:10).
 

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Shalom,Uhhhhhh, no.I had posted a message above but I inserted the wrong title so I deleted the message and left the note that I had used the wrong title. Then I reposted the message under the correct title in another post.Sorry to send you on a wild goose chase.
 

Semachiah

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Oiy Vey!Here is the post that was supposed to go with the original title for this thread.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Shalom,Scripture references are from,the SET (Stone Edition Tanach) or the CJB (Complete Jewish Bible) for the OTand the PNT (Power New Testament) for the NT unless otherwise specified.Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.Salvation "comes" through no other method but that we accept Y'SHUA as our SAVIOR. Then however, we must make Him LORD. To do this we must then "follow" Him (Lk 9:23) and that leads us to living a life that is CHRIST-like or we do not have the love of YHVH within us. This is the ongoing life that is known as SOZO in the Greek. This is what takes us to the point of being saved. Until then, according to The Bible, we are merely "Believers"...Rom 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep: for now [is] our salvation nearer than when we believed.Just as my Jewish forefathers and my father had to awake out of our slumber so must the so-called "church" if it is to be "saved." To this Y'SHUA said...Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.Today the "church" does the same thing and has lulled the people to sleep! They think they are "saved" when they are NOT. They are like the five virgins with no oil; 'Somehow we will make it, maybe the others will share?' Sorry but if you are not living the life of Y'SHUA after you accepted the life of Y'SHUA then you have nothing! Nothing but words. If there is no real heart expressing change in your life from the time before you accepted Y'SHUA then you have nothing but words.Phl 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.No works, no salvation!Jam 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.Jam 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:Jam 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.Jam 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth [therein], he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.Jam 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion [is] vain.Jam 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world....No works, no salvation!Jam 2:14 What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?Jam 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,Jam 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be [ye] warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what [doth it] profit?Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.Jam 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.Jam 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.Jam 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?No works, no salvation!jam 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?Jam 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?Jam 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.Jam 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.Jam 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way?Jam 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.No works, no salvation!Works should be the natural result of a change in heart from a heart based in the world and one based in YHVH. If after one accepts Y'SHUA there are no resultant changes within that person then they have nothing but words! If there is the change then they have the "Promise" of salvation as long as they live in that "Promise"...Rom 11:22 if you would remain in the goodness, otherwise you would be cut off.Unlike others I do not ask you to believe ME! I give you The Word of YHVH and ask you to believe HIM?If you reject what I am putting before you, that is your problem because you will be the one standing before YHVH when HE asked why did you not believe and live HIS Word unto salvation?I feel sorry for anyone who thinks they are "saved" on this earth for you make a mockery of the Word of YHVH, for you are gambling with your life...Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.What are you doing?Are you mocking YHVH?
 

thisistheendtimes

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Wakka,Do Spartacus, the fish symbol, the state of Israel, and Napolean Bonaparte make you who you are?The Lord warns us against "self abasement" (self abandonment/self abatement, Colossians 2:18 and 23) so that the true SELF can exercise self discipline in repentance, and also so that God can have a PERSONal relationship with us (His spirit "yearns jealously", James 4:5).All behaviors, attitudes, feast/rituals and scriptures of the ancient cultures BEFORE THE GIVING OF THE SPIRIT are not part of the New Testament Christian worship in truth and spirit (John 7:39). John baptized with H2O, but we need "living water" baptism (John 7:38, Revelation 7:16) so that we "neither thirst". The spirit is our GUARANTEE of eternal life (1 Corinthians 1:22 and 5:5, Ephesians 1:14). As we read "THE WORD OF TRUTH" (bible, 2 Timothy 2:15, Ephesians 1:13, John 14:6), we should learn how to "hear" (John 10:27) the "sword of the Spirit" (Ephesians 6:17). The word of truth is the INTRODUCTORY doctrine of Jesus (Hebrews 6:1), but we should move on to maturity in Christ fully realizing and accepting that JESUS is our only foundation, and we should not set a new foundation of our own (with works/deeds and scholarly accomplishment), because, when we do that, repentance in Christ becomes impossible. The Lord's judgement is always just (He will not be unjust at the final judgement and overlook this apostasy).Mankind has always replaced the three gracious gifts of God to all humanity...1) Father (creation)2) Son (salvation)3) His spirit (Godliness teaching)with it's own teachings (the teachings of the SIXTH day creation), but "God is ONE" (Galatians 3:20). In Jesus, the WHOLE fullness of God dwells bodily (Colossians 2:9).We must "walk by the spirit" (Galatians 5:16 and 25) in order to "enter by the door" (John 10:1) and learn to make a clear division between right and wrong/evil (as with a sword, "sword of the spirit") so that the change from good to evil is clear and sudden (with no middle ground, James 1:17) so that we can have our conscience purified also (Hebrews 9:14).Adam and Eve ate of the tree of conscience and we need to know how to use that knowledge properly (Hebrews 5:14) for the "better things" that belong to salvation (Hebrews 6:9). Then we will be able to learn "the DEPTHS of God (1 Corinthians 2:10).Christianity has always been under the "strong delusion" because the "hirelings" (John 10:13) haven't taken care that we understand properly, but it's also that we feel comfortable with SUBJECTIVE truth (biased truth). In Ezekiel 14:4-8 (the KJV correctly translates the word "according"), The Lord calls this the doctrines of the heart, and humanity has refused to have a passion for OBJECTIVE truth "AND SO B E SAVED" (2 Thessalonians 2:10).All verses are from the RSV.
 

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Christianity has always been under the "strong delusion" because the "hirelings" (John 10:13) haven't taken care that we understand properly, but it's also that we feel comfortable with SUBJECTIVE truth (biased truth). In Ezekiel 14:4-8 (the KJV correctly translates the word "according"), The Lord calls this the doctrines of the heart, and humanity has refused to have a passion for OBJECTIVE truth "AND SO B E SAVED" (2 Thessalonians 2:10).
Better a strong delusion than a weak delusion I always say! AHHH CHA CHA CHA CHA CHA!!!!!!!!