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Dave L
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The bible is only dead to the dead.But the Word of God is NOT the dead Bible. That is the flesh of Jesus which we are to eat, but we must also drink his blood. If we do not, the flesh remains dead and we remain dead.
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The bible is only dead to the dead.But the Word of God is NOT the dead Bible. That is the flesh of Jesus which we are to eat, but we must also drink his blood. If we do not, the flesh remains dead and we remain dead.
Precisely! Strange that we agree on this and yet remain so far apart.The bible is only dead to the dead.
Who says that the Bible is dead (Q) Certainly not Christ nor the apostles. And to suggest that only Christ is the living Word of God is to contradict Scripture. Surely nothing which a Christian should be doing.But the Word of God is NOT the dead Bible. That is the flesh of Jesus which we are to eat, but we must also drink his blood.
And when a man, or a devil or satan misuses scripture against God or a servant of God, is that scripture the Word of God?Who says that the Bible is dead (Q) Certainly not Christ nor the apostles. And to suggest that only Christ is the living Word of God is to contradict Scripture. Surely nothing which a Christian should be doing.
For the word of God (the Bible) is quick, (alive, living) and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. (Heb 4:12,13)
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. (1 Pet 1:23-25)
Dave you can't pick and choose which scriptures you will follow and which ones you won't. You are either a believer of it....in it's entirety....or you are a non-believer. If you are teaching others your understanding of the Bible in ignorance do you realize you will be held accountable for leading sheep astray?Scripture sums it up for me. All prophets today are false and we can evaluate people according to their fruit.
I'm teaching what it says in print. And not speculating further. I've already shown that it does not support charismatic claims for today. I would be adding to it to say otherwise. It's like being a musician in the symphony. Play only the notes on the page.Dave you can't pick and choose which scriptures you will follow and which ones you won't. You are either a believer of it....in it's entirety....or you are a non-believer. If you are teaching others your understanding of the Bible in ignorance do you realize you will be held accountable for leading sheep astray?
I think there is a distinction between a sense of personal divine guidance and revelation in Scripture which is complete.How did you track it down? When God spoke to me and told me to move to Tulsa, I just couldn't find it in scripture but nevertheless I was obedient to do what He told me and He provided the way financially.
Hey CoreIssue, I don't mind your BS...… except when you start talking false trash about my family. Aunt Kathryn died of a heart condition.All the gifts of the spirit are still given today. But not on the scale of the apostles Biblical prophets.
Saying a name and a city is playing the percentages. Odds are someone will fit that description. Is common ploy of mediums and so on.
One Christian minister who specialized in debunking these kinds of things proved it. He played excerpts from TV Pentecostal ministers who did these and then did the same thing with his audience. Then explained how it worked.
My point is while some knowing gifts are still given beware those going around making a living at it. God does not operate that way.
It is documented many so called healers have pronounced people cured from deadly diseases. They believed it but soon after died from those ailments.
KATHRYN KUHLMAN is one example. She died from cancer.
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/kuhlman.htm
How to Fake a Healing
I was healed once. But it was just me and God, no one else there.
There was a doctor who diagnosed me and later about passed out when he saw I was cured.
Hey CoreIssue, I don't mind your BS...… except when you start talking false trash about my family. Aunt Kathryn died of a heart condition.
Thank you. Admittedly, she was a bit on the extreme side, but it just bugs me to have people running her down when all they know of her is something they read in Wikipedia.I was going by reports I heard many years ago. Just looking I found this:
Kathryn has passed away on February 20, 1976 at the age of 68. Kathryn's cause of death was cause of death complications from open heart surgery.
Still interesting such as self proclaimed healing powerhouse cannot heal yourself.
But some others like her did die of cancer. A large number in fact.
So one that one statement I stand corrected.
Yes, I had listened to her on TV at times.
Out of respect for you I will not say more about her except for those who want to know more an Internet search is informative.
Family history can be an arresting. I had one 3rd cousin who was governor of Kentucky. Another was a bank robber who was shot 23 times and lived.
A more distant one was a wizard. My great great grandmother was the chief's daughter.
And of course my family was part of the bloody breathett feud, which they won.
Family histories can be interesting.
Thank you. Admittedly, she was a bit on the extreme side, but it just bugs me to have people running her down when all they know of her is something they read in Wikipedia.
By claiming that John gave you the idea that there are no prophets since John, you are calling John, God, Joel, Peter, and Paul lairs.John himself.
JOHN WAS INCLUDED WITH THE PROPHETS
Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. (Rev 22:9)
GENUINE PROPHECIES ARE CLOSED
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book (Rev 22:18)
OMISSIONS FROM THE BOOK OF REVELATION WILL HAVE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCE
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (Rev 22:19)
John was the last living apostle who wrote the last book of the Bible around 96 AD. He put a lock on his own prophetic book ("the words of the prophecy of this book...the words of the book of this prophecy"), and by extension on the Bible, the Word of God. This makes him the last legitimate prophet also.
Of course there is....and my question to Dave or rather statement was whether or not he has ever heard God speak to him directly......to which he replied he only listens to scripture. So in this case he can't stand on the scriptures that say "my sheep HEAR my voice and no other voice will they follow".....nor the scripture that says "they have eyes to see and ears to hear...."I think there is a distinction between a sense of personal divine guidance and revelation in Scripture which is complete.
It wasn't for you and your knowing whether it was Him or not is irrelevant.We don't know it was God telling you this.
I can't find your experience in scripture so I'm Leary. If you could do a search on the church, possibly try to remember the speakers and look them up too, it might help you to verify your experience.It wasn't for you and your knowing whether it was Him or not is irrelevant.
You can't find Paul's experiences in the Bible before they happened either yet he testifies they did happen.....and he says "by the word of our testimony they overcame him..."I can't find your experience in scripture so I'm Leary. If you could do a search on the church, possibly try to remember the speakers and look them up too, it might help you to verify your experience.
Of course there is....and my question to Dave or rather statement was whether or not he has ever heard God speak to him directly......to which he replied he only listens to scripture. So in this case he can't stand on the scriptures that say "my sheep HEAR my voice and no other voice will they follow".....nor the scripture that says "they have eyes to see and ears to hear...
My final point is that Dave is limited to certain scriptures only...not the entire Word of God.