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1 Peter 2:5 "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifice acceptable to God by Jesus Christ" 2:9 "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood......These verses tell me that we are a royal priesthood, what am I missing? and where did you comment about these scriptures?
I guess I will not get a reply to these verses.
 

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I guess I will not get a reply to these verses.
I Peter 2:5 "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, and holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ."We are speaking of Christ, and here Peter is bring each Christian into the structure, and each Christian becomes a part or stone that goes to build up that spiritual house of God. This is not talking about the church house down on the corner, but the body of Christ made up of every person that has by faith believed in Jesus Christ and repented to the Father in Jesus name for their sins. Then each of those persons become a lively, or living stone that becomes part of the spiritual house, or body of Christ.The church of Jesus Christ is not a physical structure, a building, but it is made up of all the people that have believed in Jesus Christ. Each of those members of that spiritual house are an holy priesthood and each of them have the duties of that priesthood. The duties of some are to plant the seeds of His Word to those they are with, while others with different gifts and talents are required more or less according to their abilities. Paul spoke of this in Romans 12:3-8.
 

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Not in this age we aren't, but if one wants to call themselves one...fine...but however, there is such thing as false prophets, false priest...Anybody can call themselves one in their own eyes, as for God, it depends if one is following God or not...Edit: Kriss's post at the bottom is more detailed than mine. She's right.
These scriptures were posted because thesuperjag said we were not priest, I understand the scriptures, I was waiting for him to reply to the fact that they do say we are priest now.He points out that we are not priest in this lifetime.
 

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setfree, The Rapture, as most understand it will NOT take place. The scriptures tell us what will happen. The ones who are taken to heaven, are a Little Flock, as Jesus said, Luke 12:32, these one will be Kings and Priests along Jesus, Rev 20:4-6, 5:9,10. These will take part in the FIRST Resurrection, Rev 20:5,6, Luke 22:28-30, Matt 19:28. As Paul tells us these will be resurrected to heavenly life as spirit creations, they will be granted immortality, 1Cor 15:51-54. The vast majority of people will come bact in a resurrection of the dead, to earth, John 5:28,29, Acts 24:15.These brought back are different that the ones having a part in the First Resurrection, because these must go through the Thousand Year Judgement Day, to be granted everlasting life, Rev 20:5. These will be judged out of the things written in the scroll of life, Rev 20:12. The people of the First resurrection have already been judged as righteous because of Jesus' ransom and are granted immortality. These cannot die!! The ones resurrected here on earth are the ones mentioned at Ps 37:29, who will life FOREVER on earth. This will bring to completion =God's original purpose for a paradise earth, Gen 1:26-28, Isa 45:18. When the Almighy God, Jehovah purposes something, IT WILL come to pass, Isa 46:10,11, 55:11. The Bible actually tells us that it is the wicked that will be removed from earth, the righteous will live forever on earth, Prov 2:21,21, Ps 37:29.
Also that jtartar mentions they are the little flock, that come back with Jesus. I was trying to understand this post and thesuperjag come in with his comment that we are not priest.
 

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Not in this age we aren't, but if one wants to call themselves one...fine...but however, there is such thing as false prophets, false priest...Anybody can call themselves one in their own eyes, as for God, it depends if one is following God or not...Edit: Kriss's post at the bottom is more detailed than mine. She's right.
These scriptures were posted because thesuperjag said we were not priest, I understand the scriptures, I was waiting for him to reply to the fact that they do say we are priest now.He points out that we are not priest in this lifetime.You can call yourself priest if you want to. But I think I'll take the latter, beware of false doctrines, false prophets, false Christ, false priest.The only Priest I'll listen to, honestly is Christ, because He is the High Priest. (Hebrews 3:1, Hebrews 5:10)I'm more focus on watching wolves, so I can try to lead them to the light... not everybody is going to get it though.
 

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You can call yourself priest if you want to. But I think I'll take the latter, beware of false doctrines, false prophets, false Christ, false priest.The only Priest I'll listen to, honestly is Christ, because He is the High Priest. (Hebrews 3:1, Hebrews 5:10)I'm more focus on watching wolves, so I can try to lead them to the light... not everybody is going to get it though.
You still avoided the scriptures.
 

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Of course he can't stop talking about it which he post like nearly all the topucs he gets a chance available...Your welcome, just watching over you and defending you.
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Ok, let's get back to work. :shepard:
and why do you think she has to be defended ,she does very well..i asked a question because in a different post there was something about those that bring up the old teaching ..if you read rev12:15 and 16 it is on topic and that is what i refer to in rev 12 ect,my question is valid if there was a comment about the antichrist ..i will go back and try to find it..
 

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Of course he can't stop talking about it which he post like nearly all the topucs he gets a chance available...Your welcome, just watching over you and defending you.
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Ok, let's get back to work. :shepard:
and why do you think she has to be defended ,she does very well..i asked a question because in a different post there was something about those that bring up the old teaching ..if you read rev12:15 and 16 it is on topic and that is what i refer to in rev 12 ect,my question is valid if there was a comment about the antichrist ..i will go back and try to find it..She doesn't has to be defended to be quite honest. I chose to. Ever heard of defending a family member rather than just yourself? All you going to do is bring out the sabbath thing over again.
 

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You still avoided the scriptures.
Not to speak for Jag but I believe what he means is we do not know yet who these priest are , we will not know which of the believers will be/are these priests tell God lets us know what was acceptable.
 

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Not to speak for Jag but I believe what he means is we do not know yet who these priest are , we will not know which of the believers will be/are these priests tell God lets us know what was acceptable.
I agree that we do not know who the priest are, but jtartar said that the priest will be in the first resurrection....He did not believe in the rapture, but he mentions the priest will be resurrected first and return with Christ.....this sounds like the rapture.I was trying to understand jtartar's post....but when thesuperjag posted that we are not priest...it sounded like a contradiction because the scriptures say we are priest.If we are priest and the priest are in the first resurrection...when is this resurrection? If the priest come back with Christ as jtartar said when will we(as priest) be resurrected? Did I misread his post?
 

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Give up dude. You are never going to get the answer you are looking for here. The only reason I stick around is because Kriss does post some very good stuff. I just need to stay out of rapture and tongues threads and alls well. They can't be swayed.Respectfully,Donnie
 

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Give up dude. You are never going to get the answer you are looking for here. The only reason I stick around is because Kriss does post some very good stuff. I just need to stay out of rapture and tongues threads and alls well. They can't be swayed.Respectfully,Donnie
I am not trying to persuade any one, I am trying to figure out why thesuperjag said we were not priest...when scriptures says we are. I am not persuaded either way as far as the rapture. But I would like to understand scripture and jtartar said the priest are part of the first resurrection...the scriptures say we are priest...thesuperjag said we are not priest/now. Boy, this can get confusing when you try to put it together. Some things just do not fit.
 

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I understand completley. One person can lead me one way with beautifuly accurate Scripture and the next thing you know someone comes along and leads me the other way with equally beautiful and accurate Scripture. I've learned to find my own way on certain issues. I have read 2 opposing, highly reccomended books on the rapture and either will have you believe them. There are too many highly respected spiritual leaders leading us and practicing certain issues for me to believe they are wrong and a message board has the only right answers. You can gather plenty of information here but you will have to find "the" answer yourself.Respectfully,Donnie
 

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Yes, I have come to that conclusion too! But I have been challenged to dig deeper by people questioning my faith. On the other hand when God put's something in my Spirit and I see it in scriptures....well, no one can rob me of the seed of truth. The Spirit and the word agree.
 

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Give up dude. You are never going to get the answer you are looking for here. The only reason I stick around is because Kriss does post some very good stuff. I just need to stay out of rapture and tongues threads and alls well. They can't be swayed.Respectfully,Donnie
I am not trying to persuade any one, I am trying to figure out why thesuperjag said we were not priest...when scriptures says we are.I am not persuaded either way as far as the rapture. But I would like to understand scripture and jtartar said the priest are part of the first resurrection...the scriptures say we are priest...thesuperjag said we are not priest/now. Boy, this can get confusing when you try to put it together. Some things just do not fit.I'm sorry if I got you confused setfree. Apparently only one person has been able to understand what I'm trying to say. Isn't the first resurrection in the Melinneum Reign. (Revelation 20:6)(DONNIE;53139)
I understand completley. One person can lead me one way with beautifuly accurate Scripture and the next thing you know someone comes along and leads me the other way with equally beautiful and accurate Scripture. I've learned to find my own way on certain issues. I have read 2 opposing, highly reccomended books on the rapture and either will have you believe them. There are too many highly respected spiritual leaders leading us and practicing certain issues for me to believe they are wrong and a message board has the only right answers. You can gather plenty of information here but you will have to find "the" answer yourself.Respectfully,Donnie
We think message boards are right? Give me a break. I went to a couple other Christian message boards as they love men's words over God's Words. They have made God a liar.
 

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"I went to a couple other Christian message boards as they love men's words over God's Words. They have made God a liar."My point exactly. You are right and the others are wrong. And I wasn't naming names.
 

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"I went to a couple other Christian message boards as they love men's words over God's Words. They have made God a liar."My point exactly. You are right and the others are wrong. And I wasn't naming names.
Oh, I really hate that comment. Verily, verily I say unto you, as long you are an adult, and I am a child, With that kind of comment you are saying towards me, you won't be able to understand a childish tenderheart at all.
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In fact my family says the same thing about me, but I shouldn't careless or more anyway.*sigh*I just love you just the way you are.
 

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I agree that we do not know who the priest are, but jtartar said that the priest will be in the first resurrection....He did not believe in the rapture, but he mentions the priest will be resurrected first and return with Christ.....this sounds like the rapture.I was trying to understand jtartar's post....but when thesuperjag posted that we are not priest...it sounded like a contradiction because the scriptures say we are priest.If we are priest and the priest are in the first resurrection...when is this resurrection? If the priest come back with Christ as jtartar said when will we(as priest) be resurrected? Did I misread his post?
He isnt talking rapture Setfree though I admit his post was a little confusing The first resurrected are the Elect the overcomers the priests Revelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." We see that those who take part in the first resurrection are and those who did not yield to Satan, the Antichrist during his "one world" reign. Those who did not take the Antichrist's "mark of the beast", these are the blessed and holy ones.Another Words just because we believe we are not priests, we must overcome he is still building,We will not know who survives the coming storm til it happens.