CoreIssue
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I said Romans 8, not the book of Romans.
I was pointing out to you the Bible does not teach evidence of tongues.
For those who don't believe in prophets today....explain this
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I said Romans 8, not the book of Romans.
I was pointing out to you the Bible does not teach evidence of tongues.
I will say Holy Ghost, because it is my preference to call Him that for the most part.
Tongues, at the very least, are an evidence, as a sign gift to them that believe not (see 1 Corinthians 14:22).
I beg to differ (and I have already referenced passages that show my pov quite clearly).
CoreIssue
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You're taking a pro stance and you don't even know what all the verses say? Really?
Tongues Gospels And Acts
John 20:21-22 New International Version (NIV)
21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.
I think maybe you are a little bit tired; maybe we should pick this up in the morning. I am fixin' to hit the hay myself.
I haven't looked through the book of Acts for scriptures that contradict my pov. Since you are arguing your pov, you bring up your evidences and I will see if I can answer...I am thinking tomorrow.
I'm wondering whether I should even waste my time with you since you are adhering to a watered-down translation.
CoreIssue
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More accurate in the KJV.
And once again your evading and playing games.
No tongues in the KJV either.
John 20:21-22 King James Version (KJV)
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
I don't think your reasoning hold up. If the NT had never been written, things would be as you say. But it is the perfect that replaced tongues, prophecy and knowledge. Paul said when the perfect arrived, love hope and faith would remain. You don'y need hope or faith in heaven, only love remains there.
This does not contradict my view that tongues is an evidence of the Holy Ghost and salvation.
No, please give the post # that you were responding to, so I can know whether it was to me or not, and whether to disregard.
The perfect is when we get to heaven. So it is "will replace" future tense; not "replaced" past tense.
Who is to really say that that is the case?
If the gifts have ceased, then there are things in the Bible that we are not to obey (such as 1 Corinthians 12:31, 1 Corinthians 14:1). And if there are things in the Bible that we are not to obey, then we can pick and choose what we will obey...smorgasborg religion, again.
If scripture is perfect, then we are to obey all of it; which includes its protocol for using the gifts in a church setting. Which would indicate that the gifts have not ceased.
Not all gifts ceased. But the apostle's signs and wonders ceased. And Scripture is the perfect that replaced tongues, prophecy and knowledge.
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