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We have discussed weed. Now I am going to bring this all into a new twist. Tell me something,a lot of people smoke ciggerettes,a lot drink beer,wine. So why when weed is actually better the putting cigs. and some cases better than beer or wine we consider it a bad thing. Now you are going to say well the buying of it causes bad things,now so does the buying of cigs. and beer. Since this is legalized it is all good but really it causes the same consequences. Now what would you say. Now your going to bring up the Temple of God. Now listen a McDonalds hamburger does the same thing it harms your body. This is one of those topics that is wishy washy. No listen this is my opinion on it! I believe that weed is no more of a sin as drinking beer which is accepted. I believe when used properly it is okay. Now if your just doing it because you want to escape problems,or just to do something bad than it is a sin. I would say in the end it is your reason for doing it. I believe for good it is good,for bad it is bad. AND NO HOSPITALS DO SELL IT. NOT JUST "street people" I really want to hear everyones opinion please don't critize me,but give me your honest thinking!!!
 

Jordan

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Christ made water into wine. (John 2:1-11) And wine is an alcoholic drink. It is not a sin to drink wine at all unless the reason is to being drunk. (I Corinthians 6:9-11, Galatians 5:19-21) Only drink it in moderation. Same thing with junk food...I rather do it in moderation.
 

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Firstly like I said last time weed is against the law in most countries which means buying it is a sin where as alcohol and and smokes are legal and thus buying them is a not a sin as such.And by the way Jesus never created alcoholic wine in those days wine with no alcohol was considered as the best wine it says Jesus created the best wine meaning non alcoholic.The Bible says numarous times to not get drunk. This is not just considering alcohol but any drug affecting your state of mind. As 1 beer would not affect your state of mind drinking in moderation is not a sin but as 1 drag of weed affects you greatly I would say it is a sin.As for smoking well this probally boils down to what you believe but as I was a smoker drinker and a heroin user I can tell you that if you smoke God can never truly work in you. Many people say weed is a gateway drug but I believe it is smoking most druggies I know started with smoking ciggarettes. Remember the devil starts with a small lie and warps it into a bigger and bigger thing so that you will not even know yourself.Please guys listen to me I was at the bottom! God saved my life! Please do not believe the devils lies not even the smallest 1 because he will make you pay.Our goal is to become more like Jesus as He did not drink I can not see Him smoking or smoking weed. So stay away its the devil tricking you.God bless
 

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Craig that is really inspiring,and really good to hear. I to yes even at my young age,suffered with drugs. I used to pop pills,and smoke weed so much. I was always messed up or wanting more. And to this day it has affected me,i still have some people think I am one. It is not how I like to be looked at.
 

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In general. Weed and cigarettes are not acceptable. Alcohol is okay as long as you drink it not to become drunk. Say you're eating a meal, then alcohol would be okay. I would like a beer with a steak or burger. I don't believe in hard liquors though, because they're designed to make you drunk.
 

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Firstly like I said last time weed is against the law in most countries which means buying it is a sin where as alcohol and and smokes are legal and thus buying them is a not a sin as such.And by the way Jesus never created alcoholic wine in those days wine with no alcohol was considered as the best wine it says Jesus created the best wine meaning non alcoholic.The Bible says numarous times to not get drunk. This is not just considering alcohol but any drug affecting your state of mind. As 1 beer would not affect your state of mind drinking in moderation is not a sin but as 1 drag of weed affects you greatly I would say it is a sin.As for smoking well this probally boils down to what you believe but as I was a smoker drinker and a heroin user I can tell you that if you smoke God can never truly work in you. Many people say weed is a gateway drug but I believe it is smoking most druggies I know started with smoking ciggarettes. Remember the devil starts with a small lie and warps it into a bigger and bigger thing so that you will not even know yourself.Please guys listen to me I was at the bottom! God saved my life! Please do not believe the devils lies not even the smallest 1 because he will make you pay.Our goal is to become more like Jesus as He did not drink I can not see Him smoking or smoking weed. So stay away its the devil tricking you.God bless
I agree, you nailed it. He created the best wine.Normally they would let them get drunk on the more alcoholic wine, and then bring out the best wine once most people had their fill of the worse wine.I do not believe the wine Jesus made had time to ferment... he put new wine in it.And, He puts new wine in new bottles
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... not old fermented wine... and we could talk about that further, but I agree.
 

cronnie36

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We have discussed weed. Now I am going to bring this all into a new twist. Tell me something,a lot of people smoke ciggerettes,a lot drink beer,wine. So why when weed is actually better the putting cigs. and some cases better than beer or wine we consider it a bad thing. Now you are going to say well the buying of it causes bad things,now so does the buying of cigs. and beer. Since this is legalized it is all good but really it causes the same consequences. Now what would you say. Now your going to bring up the Temple of God. Now listen a McDonalds hamburger does the same thing it harms your body. This is one of those topics that is wishy washy. No listen this is my opinion on it! I believe that weed is no more of a sin as drinking beer which is accepted. I believe when used properly it is okay. Now if your just doing it because you want to escape problems,or just to do something bad than it is a sin. I would say in the end it is your reason for doing it. I believe for good it is good,for bad it is bad. AND NO HOSPITALS DO SELL IT. NOT JUST "street people" I really want to hear everyones opinion please don't critize me,but give me your honest thinking!!!
I am opposed to any alcohol, I do not trust doctors or the pharmaceutical industry, I quit smoking tobacco out of obedience to the Lord and the love I have for it, once I even had such a frightful nightmare that I am convinced it was God's way of showing me that I was erring by playing video games. I've completely given those up. This is the last thing I will say on this subject because I feel that what is right for me in my walk may not be right for the next brother but you did ask for my opinion. I smoke marijuana and in fact have found it to soothe me in times of strong temptation as well as help me to walk more spiritually than in the flesh. I find that it helps me to feel connected with God and to stay in prayer. I am in no way trying to cause anyone to stumble because I love you all I ask that you seek within yourselves. I am pray to God about this. I have asked Him to show me if it's wrong. I have tried lot's of drugs and found them to be very terrible things indeed, marijuana has never hurt me that way.
 

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This subject is touchy. Even the legal issues are not clear cut with marijuana and I know that there are people who are wishy washy about even enforcing this law. I've gotta say that alcohol is strongly warned against and we are told that every seed bearing herb is good for meat. I hardly see anything wrong with coffee because it does not cause my inhibitions to loosen, but it causes my heart to race. Anything that changes the way you feel is classified as a drug. This includes some food ingredients.Some natural remedies are of God. Some remedies are the work of man playing God. I trust the former and not the latter. I may have no problem chewing on a coco leaf, but never set a line of cocaine in front of me I will not have it. And about opium, for sure a steady diet of that stuff will leave anyone a possessed shell of a man. And as for the pharmaceutical industry, I don't trust them.
 

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We have discussed weed.Now I am going to bring this all into a new twist. Tell me something,a lot of people smoke ciggerettes,a lot drink beer,wine. So why when weed is actually better the putting cigs. and some cases better than beer or wine we consider it a bad thing.Now you are going to say well the buying of it causes bad things,now so does the buying of cigs. and beer. Since this is legalized it is all good but really it causes the same consequences.Now what would you say. Now your going to bring up the Temple of God. Now listen a McDonalds hamburger does the same thing it harms your body. This is one of those topics that is wishy washy. No listen this is my opinion on it!I believe that weed is no more of a sin as drinking beer which is accepted. I believe when used properly it is okay. Now if your just doing it because you want to escape problems,or just to do something bad than it is a sin.I would say in the end it is your reason for doing it. I believe for good it is good,for bad it is bad. AND NO HOSPITALS DO SELL IT. NOT JUST "street people" I really want to hear everyones opinion please don't critize me,but give me your honest thinking!!!
Ok well not only do I believe that smoking weed is a sin but so is drinking, smoking (anything), etc. You can try and justify it by saying its legal and I don't do it that often. But in the end your just playing into the devils hands and sin sympathizing. Its a hard truth people don't wanna hear because it means they are gonna have to do some serious work on themselves and nobody wants to take the time and energy to do that. So instead they try and create these bogus excuses and reasons why its ok. Sure drinking a little beer doesn't guarentee that anything bad is gonna happen but you are taking an UNECESSARY risk. Your flirting with sin and trying to get as close as possible without actually stepping over. You can justify such petty acts with people, but God knows what your truly doing. So STOP trying to get yourself right in the eyes of your fellow men and get yourself right in the eyes of GOD!!! This is all I have to say on the topic, its the truth and because of that it will mostly be ignored and put aside! I pray for you who will struggle with this. ~followerofCHRIST!!!
 

cronnie36

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I personally don't care if I am righteous in the eyes of man. It's God that worries me, and I'd rather be without physical company in this life than to be away from Him for even a second. Follow the Word of God and you can not go wrong because He will give you the knowledge of all things good and bad. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.drinkFor he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
 

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Honestly the answer here is quite obvious. There wouldn't even be a topic if this wasn't a sin. The reason people come and ask questions like this is because it obviously doesn't sit well with their concious. So everyone here already knows these things are sinful and should be avoided. But instead of accepting the truth people go in search of an answer that fits with the answer they wanna hear. And the only place they can get such an answer is from men. And since when have the ideas been worth anything?!!! NEVER!! You all know the answer, and whether you like it or not its the right one! This is sinful behavior! Repent and ask God for strength then STOP with all this sin! All day I have been going from class to class listening to what all my 'friends' did this weekend and its pretty much all of this. Then I get to come here and here about it some more! So forgive me if I am being too aggressive but I am REALLY tired of hearing about this and it just being socially acceptable!
 

cronnie36

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My conscience is clean and I am thankful to God for all good things. And I understand I am also upset what has become socially acceptable and not to sound too extreme but I really detest this world and what they do here. It's a good thing I am only passing through because I have no intention of becoming involved in this place beyond what God has blessed me with. I am perfectly content most times and when I feel restless I have a wife and the Word of God to carry me through it. I used to walk in all manners of sin my friend, but I am a new creature born of The Holy Ghost and no more will I find pleasure in this world as I once "did".
 

followerofchrist

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My conscience is clean and I am thankful to God for all good things. And I understand I am also upset what has become socially acceptable and not to sound too extreme but I really detest this world and what they do here. It's a good thing I am only passing through because I have no intention of becoming involved in this place beyond what God has blessed me with. I am perfectly content most times and when I feel restless I have a wife and the Word of God to carry me through it. I used to walk in all manners of sin my friend, but I am a new creature born of The Holy Ghost and no more will I find pleasure in this world as I once "did".
I hope you do not think I was accusing you, or directing my posts at you or any one person on here! Mine were very general statements aimed at the world.I am glad that you do not take pleasure in the things of the world, they are not the pleasures of God.
 

cronnie36

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I hope you do not think I was accusing you, or directing my posts at you or any one person on here! Mine were very general statements aimed at the world.I am glad that you do not take pleasure in the things of the world, they are not the pleasures of God.
No, I was only agreeing with you.
 

followerofchrist

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No, I was only agreeing with you.
"Ok I wasn't sure if you were answering to agree or defend yourself. I am glad its not the latter.
 

ForYou

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Follower.you have every right to be kind of tired about this. Really it is cool. I am not trying to figure out this,but instead help another. I can honestly say drugs are bad,I have been on them before. Guys it is not good. God can not work through a human who doesn't have control.I am going to confine some stuff if you guys. I have done it all,people say you hollusinate you don't some say you feel like running 34324 miles and you smile. No. Different drugs do diff. things to diff. people. But when you do it because of the fact you want to feel good,or sit there and do it because you want to act crazy it is a sin. Alcohal in moderation is acceptable,there was a reason God made this herb(weed). There is a reason God made everything. Now,with that said if you use it for good,as in medical reasons I see no wrong. Now for alcohal it goes the same,for bad is bad. For good is good. and in moderation. I am not beating around the bush. This is how I see it. I personally don't want to do it again.
 

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If your really thirsty and want something to drink……"IF ANY MAN THIRST, let him come unto me, and drink." John 7:37If anyone has any doubts about alcohol here are a couple of verses…Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. Proverbs 20:1Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Isaiah 5:22For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb Luke 1:15Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing: Judges 13:4Furthermore, as a poster said above Jesus never drank alcohol. Also I must confess something. In mid April I went to my friends cottage and I knew they would be drinking and smoking weed. I smoked but did not drink anything. I regret smoking and when they asked me why I wasn’t drinking all I said is because I didn’t want to. Which was just half true I didn’t tell them that it was because God says not too. I kept replaying this verse in my head….Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. Mark 8:38 I know God is ashamed of me and I am too for being a coward, but I have to learn from my mistakes. I will not smoke or drink alcohol again (at least I hope not) I just need to tell people why when they ask me. Do not take comfort in what other people have to say. Take comfort in what God says and he says to stay away from strong drinks (alcohol) there is no justifying drinking any alcohol ever.
 

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Deuteronomy 14:26 (King James Version) 26And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
 

Alpha and Omega

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Deuteronomy 14:26 (King James Version) 26And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
You can buy what you like that is free will. That is what this verse is telling us. But we are still unwise or "woe unto us" if we drink alcohol. We are not great in the sight of the Lord if we drink.