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Yes and amen!

But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: "God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble." Jam 4:6

A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out. In faithfulness he will bring forth justice; Isa 42:3

Your meds are just nutrients meant to cover a deficiency. One can buy vitamins at a pharmacy too. Would you view those as witchcraft?

Some substances like psychedelics or hallucinogenic compounds might be intended for use in witchcraft and sorcery and mystical experiences. Not medicines. The former is used as a mind altering substance, but your meds are intended to 'unalter' your mind. Two things cannot be more opposite than that!

Your situation is more like a diabetic taking their insulin. Do you see insulin or vitamins as witchcraft?

Thank you, @Blueberry, that really ministered to me (especially Isaiah 42:3).

Yes indeed, 3 John 1:11 applies, along with Proverbs 17:22 (kjv). 1 Timothy 5:23 is also good. If wine taken in moderation for healing is not drunkenness, then medicine taken as prescribed for healing is not witchcraft.
 
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Thank you, @Blueberry, that really ministered to me (especially Isaiah 42:3).

Yes indeed, 3 John 1:11 applies, along with Proverbs 17:22 (kjv). 1 Timothy 5:23 is also good. If wine taken in moderation for healing is not drunkenness, then medicine taken as prescribed for healing is not witchcraft.

I am really glad that it did minister to you. I agree about the wine.

I've lost touch with a guy that used to take lithium. Every time he started feeling really good, he decided that he did not need the lithium any longer. He would stop taking it. Then things would fall apart. It is so ironic that that when one thinks that they no longer need the meds that it is because the meds are actually working! This actually requires some faith to continue to believe. Faith pleases God.

Yeah, we are all defective in some capacity. This is a broken fallen world with broken people in it. No shame. No sin in that.

I think that you were right on about the thorn in the flesh bit.

That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong. 2Cor 12:10

'Strong' in Christ that is. And in the meds since He told you to take them. He led me into a nutritional path. Sometimes I feel good enough to go eat garbage, but then I remember why I am doing it and do not want to go back.

One day at a time brother!
 

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That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong. 2Cor 12:10
The Old King Jimmy includes "necessities" in that verse. That is the one that really ministered to me.
 
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I consider that my medicine is simply a "necessity". The scripture at hand has taught me to take pleasure in it.

On a related note, the whole thing is a strong evidence to me of a pre-tribulation rapture; because with the necessity of this thing in my life, I would be a sitting duck for them to throw the mark on me, because all they would have to do is deny me my meds unless I take the mark. In such a case I would just have to choose to go completely paranoid without my meds, running from the psychiatric system and the mark; and they would sit back smugly and say, "See? I told you so! he's not taking his meds, and see how paranoid he is, running from something that he cannot buy or sell without!"

But because my medicine is a "necessity" I conclude that such a scenario very likely will never take place; because the Lord will catch me up to meet Him in the air before such a situation would ever be allowed to come upon me. I could be wrong, I suppose...
 
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Of course, food is a necessity also!

Yeah, which means the inability to buy and sell such necessities as food doesn't make you particularly vulnerable to the Mark. Chances are you have a longer supply of meds than of food and water on hand right now? Thus leveling the playing field.

I have thought this through for many years now. Even the self sufficient will have their property, and therefore means of sustenance, taken because despite the necessary funds, the form of payment for property taxes will simply be rejected.

When they are actually after us, it ain't paranoia my friend! :eek: :)

But I am hopeful of better things.

I really liked ByGrace's method of thanking God for it as you take it. No different than being thankful for the other necessities like food, water, clothing, housing, etc.
 
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When they are actually after us, it ain't paranoia my friend! :eek: :)
But they will still probably try to say that it is using the same means (i.e. through the Mental Health System); because even in that time, not everyone will have read through the book of Revelation. Those who have read it are especially blessed according to Revelation 1:3.
 

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But they will still probably try to say that it is using the same means (i.e. through the Mental Health System); because even in that time, not everyone will have read through the book of Revelation. Those who have read it are especially blessed according to Revelation 1:3.

Very likely. I agree.
 

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I have restored my testimony to this thread after consideration...originally I took it off because I was not allowed to attach my last name to it (Primanti), but only my first name (Geoffrey).
 
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Yes and amen!

But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: "God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble." Jam 4:6

A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out. In faithfulness he will bring forth justice; Isa 42:3
Good verses there...
 

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I want to add to my testimony.

Recently I came across 1 John 3:8 and it hit me in a new way that led me to repent of a particular sin that was besetting me in my life. I now have complete victory over that sin.

But it seems that the Calvary Chapel Movement is in opposition to the doctrine in question that led me to repentance. I have just gotten out of a meeting with my pastor and three of the elders. They gave me an ultimatum that if I do not recant what God has clearly shown me, I am no longer allowed to minister in Calvary Chapel. It it only a matter of time before I am not allowed to fellowship there anymore, either.

It speaks to me of what is written in John 16:1-3:

Jhn 16:1, These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
Jhn 16:2, They shall put you out of the synagogues (i.e. meeting places): yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Jhn 16:3, And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

Calvary Chapel has a name that it is alive.

But over a long period of time of attending congregations and listening to K-WAVE (the Calvary Chapel radio station) I have been grieved numerous times over statements where pastors have told us in subtle ways that there can be no victory or freedom concerning sin in our lives. In some way, shape, or form, these pastors in the majority of services teach that it is impossible but that you will sin in this life. This is not biblical teaching; and it has also caused me to be bound to a sinful lifestyle way longer than was necessary.

Now that I am set free from sin, I see also that the doctrine set forth by these Calvary Chapel's is false; and that it is even the teachers prophesied about in 2 Timothy chapter 4, telling people what their itching ears want to hear.

But I went there for so long because of their reputation.

I consider that it is truly designated the church that is mentioned in the book of Revelation before Philadelphia.
 
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It should be clear that in the last days (and there is no guarantee of a pre-tribulation rapture; since Laodicea is the last days church) men will be among other things false accusers (2 Timothy 3:1-5); and that many who are in Christ will be identified as mentally ill by society, (Hosea 9:7, 2 Corinthians 5:13) although in all reality they will have no mental illness at all (2 Timothy 1:7, 1 Corinthians 2:16, Romans 8:27, Romans 12:2).

It will be because of thine iniquity and the great enmity against those who are truly righteous in God's kingdom, that people of faith in Jesus Christ will be slandered with slander of such labels as paranaoid schizophrenic, schizophrenic, schizoaffecive, and bipolar...and also forced to take drugs against their will through a process called conditioning. They will be injected with medications as police take them into facilities where they will not be allowed to leave until they begin to take the medications faithfully over time.

There will be a gradual process in which Christians, in desiring to have a clean bill of mental health, will be conditioned to take medication until, in order to be set free, they will even become willing to take the mark of the Beast.

However, that mark is something that brings everlasting condemnation (Revelation 14:9-11).

Mark my words, it is coming soon!

Scriptures:

Hos 9:7 The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know [it]: the prophet [is] a fool, the spiritual man [is] mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.

2Co 5:13 For whether we be beside ourselves, [it is] to God: or whether we be sober, [it is] for your cause.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what [is] the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
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Psa 119:69, The proud have forged a lie against me: but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart.

Freudian psychology is a lie that is forged against the true believer; with such tenets as persecution complex (which comes against an attitude that Jesus taught in the Beattitudes, Matthew 5:10-12, Luke 6:22; see also 2 Timothy 3:10-12); religious preoccupation (which comes against other biblical attitudes, see 1 Peter 2:1-3 and Psalms 1); and the accusation of mania against those who would watch and wait for the Lord's return (an attitude that is encouraged in Psalms 119:147-148, Mark 13:32-37, 2 Corinthians 6:5, 2 Corinthians 11:27, and Revelation 3:2-3).

Psa 4:2, O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn my glory into shame? how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah.

The glory, therefore, of being a born again Christian, if one indeed carries the attitudes of being born again, is turned into the shame of mental illness.

Psa 41:8, An evil disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto him: and now that he lieth he shall rise up no more.

The adversaries of those who carry the Lord's anointing thus thrust us down so that we are said to have an evil disease; and their hope is that we shall never rise again for the dishonour that they have established towards our name.

Psa 69:9, For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me.

I have even heard pastors reproach God as being some kind of schizophrenic. But the Lord has even said, "My repentings are kindled together." (Hosea 11:8).

Hos 9:7, The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.

It is not that the spiritual man is actually mad or insane; for it is written,

2Ti 1:7, For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.


But it is that those who are of the world deign our preaching as foolishness and our behaviour as foolishness:

2Co 5:13, For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.

1Co 1:18, For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19, For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Co 1:20, Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21, For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Co 1:22, For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23, But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24, But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25, Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1Co 1:26, For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1Co 1:27, But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28, And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
1Co 1:29, That no flesh should glory in his presence.
 
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Most recently, I have gone forward to rededicate my life to the Lord as the result of four messages at a conference in Anaheim; the fourth of which was given by Franklin Graham.

I feel that the Holy Spirit has been speaking to me; telling me in His own way that I have been something of a jerk to people because of spiritual pride.

I ask for the prayers of the saints, that God would remedy this in the power of His Holy Spirit.
 

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I believe that the Lord has spoken to me recently and has said, "I have seen your ways, and will heal you." While He spoke this to me in my mind; this statement is also found in holy scripture (Isaiah 57:18).
 
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