Jack Van Impe preaching=Jesus is about to Return!!

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"thought"???? is not PROOF!!! Satan must be laughing!!!
Jack is a Dispensationalist. Dispensationalism comes from the Roman Catholic Church, not the bible, meant to deceive people into thinking the papacy is not the Antichrist.
 

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ROFL!!! Do you really want to say that on judgment day as an excuse??? Dream on!
 
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ROFL!!! Do you really want to say that on judgment day as an excuse??? Dream on!
Check the history of Dispensationalism. Google it. Jesuit Ribera developed it to divert attention away from the Pope as being the Antichrist.
 

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Revelation 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.=====Who wants to join him??
 
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Revelation 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.=====Who wants to join him??
You're failure to see the kingdom now present since Christ first preached it could mean you are not born again. Only the born again can see it. So you could very well end up where you least think you will be.
 

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The church is Israel. The state of Israel = gentiles calling themselves Jews.
Where does it say the only Church today, which is Christ's Body where Christ is the Head, is Israel, Dave? Since today's Gentile church is found only in Paul's 7 post-Acts books, any quotes from the other, 59 all-Israel books, prove NOTHING. If you want to prove anything about today's church, you'll have to find it in Paul's 7 post-Acts books.

Actually, since all Jews, since 64AD, are Gentiles in God's eyes, you're about half right on the last part of what you said. Israel will be back in God's graces in about 2064.
 

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Jude 1:10-13 10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
 
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Where does it say the only Church today, which is Christ's Body where Christ is the Head, is Israel, Dave? Since today's Gentile church is found only in Paul's 7 post-Acts books, any quotes from the other, 59 all-Israel books, prove NOTHING. If you want to prove anything about today's church, you'll have to find it in Paul's 7 post-Acts books.

Actually, since all Jews, since 64AD, are Gentiles in God's eyes, you're about half right on the last part of what you said. Israel will be back in God's graces in about 2064.
To whom will the broken off Jews be reattached through faith? To themselves? Or to Christian Israel?

“And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.” (Romans 11:23) (KJV 1900)
 
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Jude 1:10-13 10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
This fits Dispensationalism to a T.
 

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Who wants to slander God's Word???

Jude 1:10-13 10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
 
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Who wants to slander God's Word???

Jude 1:10-13 10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
You need to know what the word says before you can accuse others.
 

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What makes you believe it will be after 2064? I hope not. I can't see things getting worse.
In 64AD, when the Salvation of God was taken from Israel and given to the Gentiles, Acts of the Apostles 28:28, this made Israel Lo-ammi, not My people, Hosea 1:9. Israel's present position is told in Hosea 3:4. In Hosea 6:2, it says Israel will be back after 2 days, 2000 years. That will make it about 2064. However, starting in about 2064, Elijah will return ti restore ALL and who knows how long that will take? Then, the trib will take place and Christ won't return until the end of the trib.

It's easy to see that Israel is not, at the present, God's people. Israel can't keep the Law without a temple and they can't be God's people without keeping the Law. The Law has been set aside for this 2000 years and, thus, so has Israel.
 

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Jude 1:10-13 10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Look in the mirror.
 

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Check the history of Dispensationalism. Google it. Jesuit Ribera developed it to divert attention away from the Pope as being the Antichrist.
There are 3 main types of dispensationalism. They are all 180 degrees different from each other and have absolutely nothing in common. Lumping them all together just shows your lack of knowledge of the matter. If what you say about the Catholics and Dispensationalism is true, which I doubt, it would have to be the Acts 2 variety.
Acts 2 Disp - The original dispensationalism. Believes the present Gentile church started at Pentecost in Acts2. This, of course is malarkey since the 1st Gentile admitted was in Acts 10, 8 years later.
Mid-Acts Disp. - This group believes the Gentile Church started in Acts 9, when Paul was converted. They also believe Israel was set aside about the same time. Since Paul was still going to the Jew first in Acts 28, this blows mid-Acts out of the water, although they'll never admit it.
Acts 28:28 - The only form that relies entirely on the literal view of scripture, with no shenanigans. This group correctly relies on right division to separate those things that only apply to Israel from those things that apply only to today's Gentiles. They find this dividing MUST be made between Acts and Ephesians. Paul's 7, 100% Gentile, post-Acts are the only books with a hope of Heavenly Places, where Christ sits at the right hand on God, Ephesians 1:20, Ephesians 2:6. In the other 59, ALL-Israel books, the highest hope is the New Jerusalem, which certainly isn't Heaven. It comes down out of Heaven and becomes part of the New Earth, permanently, as far as we're told.
 
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There are 3 main types of dispensationalism. They are all 180 degrees different from each other and have absolutely nothing in common. Lumping them all together just shows your lack of knowledge of the matter. If what you say about the Catholics and Dispensationalism is true, which I doubt, it would have to be the Acts 2 variety.
Acts 2 Disp - The original dispensationalism. Believes the present Gentile church started at Pentecost in Acts2. This, of course is malarkey since the 1st Gentile admitted was in Acts 10, 8 years later.
Mid-Acts Disp. - This group believes the Gentile Church started in Acts 9, when Paul was converted. They also believe Israel was set aside about the same time. Since Paul was still going to the Jew first in Acts 28, this blows mid-Acts out of the water, although they'll never admit it.
Acts 28:28 - The only form that relies entirely on the literal view of scripture, with no shenanigans. This group correctly relies on right division to separate those things that only apply to Israel from those things that apply only to today's Gentiles. They find this dividing MUST be made between Acts and Ephesians. Paul's 7, 100% Gentile, post-Acts are the only books with a hope of Heavenly Places, where Christ sits at the right hand on God, Ephesians 1:20, Ephesians 2:6. In the other 59, ALL-Israel books, the highest hope is the New Jerusalem, which certainly isn't Heaven. It comes down out of Heaven and becomes part of the New Earth, permanently, as far as we're told.
All are unbiblical. With the Acts 28 version being the most toxic of the bunch. If you reject Scripture (Jesus' words in the Sermon on the Mount), you reject Jesus.
 

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Revelation 12:10 The accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.=====Who wants to join him??
After this 2000 year Gentile period is over, in about 46 years, everything will once again be 100% involved with Israel, only. Things like the second coming, the rapture, the trib, the Day of the Lord, the Millennial Kingdom, the entire book of Revelation, etc., etc., etc., are 100% Israel, as far as application is concerned. We who have been given the eyes of understanding to see the Hope of His Calling, Ephesians 1:17-18, found only in Paul's7 post-Acts books, will have already been resurrected in Christ's epiphaneia (Appearing) and will be in the highest Heaven. Those saved Gentiles that have no desire to give up all the unobtainable Jewish baggage, like the rapture, or the false idea that there is any association, at all, between the Gentile church and Israel, will be raised after the Millennium, in the white throne judgment. They will then be put on the New Earth, along with the OT nation of Israel.