Jack Van Impe preaching=Jesus is about to Return!!

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Dave L said:
Check the history of Dispensationalism. Google it. Jesuit Ribera developed it to divert attention away from the Pope as being the Antichrist.

Dispensationalism in Christian Theology

IS, a belief in a system of historical progression, as revealed in the Bible, consisting of a series of stages in God's self-revelation and plan of salvation.

Where is a Pope mentioned in that?
And so, A MAN, who believed in dispensationalism, ALSO had an Opinion about "not "THE" Pope", but "Pope"S"., so what?

How does that translate, Every one who believes in dispensationalism, is even considering "A Pope", (since we know, there is a multiple succession of men elected as a "pope"?)

That is just weird. Not every person IS a Roman Catholic or Catholic to even consider, what ANY pope may Do/Be or not Do/Be. They are all individuals who are of the Catholic Faith. Of course a Catholic would want to express, directions AWAY from their "pope" as being associated with an anti-Christ. And so also some Pastors of other religions may express having no great concern that "popes" may be an anti-Christ.

How would that ^ translate to a Pastor being a False teacher?

Glory to God,
Merry Christmas,
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Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

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Dispensationalism in Christian Theology

IS, a belief in a system of historical progression, as revealed in the Bible, consisting of a series of stages in God's self-revelation and plan of salvation.

Where is a Pope mentioned in that?
And so, A MAN, who believed in dispensationalism, ALSO had an Opinion about "not "THE" Pope", but "Pope"S"., so what?

How does that translate, Every one who believes in dispensationalism, is even considering "A Pope", (since we know, there is a multiple succession of men elected as a "pope"?)

That is just weird. Not every person IS a Roman Catholic or Catholic to even consider, what ANY pope may Do/Be or not Do/Be. They are all individuals who are of the Catholic Faith. Of course a Catholic would want to express, directions AWAY from their "pope" as being associated with an anti-Christ. And so also some Pastors of other religions may express having no great concern that "popes" may be an anti-Christ.

How would that ^ translate to a Pastor being a False teacher?

Glory to God,
Merry Christmas,
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You must study the origins of Dispensationalism before you try to set anyone straight concerning it.

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Dave L said:
All are unbiblical. With the Acts 28 version being the most toxic of the bunch. If you reject Scripture (Jesus' words in the Sermon on the Mount), you reject Jesus.

Well then PROVE your claim with Evidence...
Show ONE Quote...of ANY Pope or Jack Van Impe of their Words claiming to BE AGAINST Christ.

Because so far, you have made accusations, specific and on a broad scale...
I am only asking for your evidence specific to ANY Pope or Jack Van Impe.

Glory to God,
Merry Christmas,
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Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

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Well then PROVE your claim with Evidence...
Show ONE Quote...of ANY Pope or Jack Van Impe of their Words claiming to BE AGAINST Christ.

Because so far, you have made accusations, specific and on a broad scale...
I am only asking for your evidence specific to ANY Pope or Jack Van Impe.

Glory to God,
Merry Christmas,
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Dispensationalism is the result of the Roman Catholic attempt to rid the papacy of the charge of being the Antichrist. Jesuit Ribera is the chief architect of the system. It begins with a hypothetical gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th week, which scripture never mentions, and then cuts and pastes scriptures already fulfilled, wrenching them from their context, claiming they will be fulfilled in the future. Thus a restored Roman Empire, future Antichrist, Gog and Magog = Russia ..... etc., etc.

Ac28 · Dec 24, 2018

Dave L said:
All are unbiblical. With the Acts 28 version being the most toxic of the bunch. If you reject Scripture (Jesus' words in the Sermon on the Mount), you reject Jesus.

In light of the absolute proofs that Christ's ministry was 100% TO and ABOUT Israel, Matthew 10:5, Matthew 15:24, Romans 15:8, John 1:31, what scripture do you specifically use that says the sermon of the mount was TO or ABOUT the Gentiles. Your fixation on this is the most toxic of all your anti-Biblical teachings.

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Dave L said:
You must study the origins of Dispensationalism before you try to set anyone straight concerning it.

Study the Origin of men called Christians....
Followers of Christ's teachings,
And now? Progressed to what?
A man Following, Forgiven, Saved, & Born Again....quite a change from ONLY following His Teachings.

I gave you a definition. You want it to be ALL about Catholic Popes, it isn't.

Cool eh? Uh, I mean oooh hot, or you know, sick...which those things meant less than warm, greater than warm, ill....but now CAN express a Likeness toward something.

Original meanings Change, as foretold IN Prophecy.

Glory to God,
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Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

Ac28 said:
In light of the absolute proofs that Christ's ministry was 100% TO and ABOUT Israel, Matthew 10:5, Matthew 15:24, Romans 15:8, John 1:31, what scripture do you use that says the sermon of the mount was specifically TO or ABOUT the Gentiles. Your fixation on this is the most toxic of all your anti-Biblical teachings.

We are Israel, not the unbelieving Jews.

Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

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Study the Origin of men called Christians....
Followers of Christ's teachings,
And now? Progressed to what?
A man Following, Forgiven, Saved, & Born Again....quite a change from ONLY following His Teachings.

I gave you a definition. You want it to be ALL about Catholic Popes, it isn't.

Cool eh? Uh, I mean oooh hot, or you know, sick...which those things meant less than warm, greater than warm, ill....but now CAN express a Likeness toward something.

Original meanings Change, as foretold IN Prophecy.

Glory to God,
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Talk jargon all you want, only hitting the books will relieve the confusion for you.

Ac28 · Dec 24, 2018

Dave L said:
We are Israel, not the unbelieving Jews.

Where does it say that in Paul's 7 post-Acts books, the only books in the Bible that speak TO or ABOUT a Gentile church, the only Church available for anyone living today?

Ac28 · Dec 24, 2018

When did you get the idea that just stating your beliefs, without the use of scripture, was proof enough?

GISMYS_7 · Dec 24, 2018

ROFL!!! I see Wild crazy ideas of little men with little understanding===old 88 year old Jack Van Impe was sent to help you!!

Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

Ac28 said:
Where does it say that in Paul's 7 post-Acts books, the only books in the Bible that speak TO or ABOUT a Gentile church, the only Church available for anyone living today?

“But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.” (Ephesians 2:13–22) (KJV 1900)

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Dave L said:
Dispensationalism is the result of the Roman Catholic attempt to rid the papacy of the charge of being the Antichrist. Jesuit Ribera is the chief architect of the system. It begins with a hypothetical gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th week, which scripture never mentions, and then cuts and pastes scriptures already fulfilled, wrenching them from their context, claiming they will be fulfilled in the future. Thus a restored Roman Empire, future Antichrist, Gog and Magog = Russia ..... etc., etc.

Thanks for sharing the history.

Still waiting for your evidence of what ... beliefs you have claimed ARE dispensationalists and have claimed in their words they ARE against Christ.

Jack Van Impe....for one.
And there are people on this forum who have claimed to be dispensationalists, where is there quotes of their words, exclusively centered around defense of the popes, or they against Christ?

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Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

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Thanks for sharing the history.

Still waiting for your evidence of what ... beliefs you have claimed ARE dispensationalists and have claimed in their words they ARE against Christ.

Jack Van Impe....for one.
And there are people on this forum who have claimed to be dispensationalists, where is there quotes of their words, exclusively centered around defense of the popes, or they against Christ?

Glory to God?
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They have no direct bible quotes to support any of their beliefs.

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Dave L said:
Talk jargon all you want, only hitting the books will relieve the confusion for you.

Ya, okay Dave. You keep making accusations and giving your opinions, without Evidence, and that just is what it is. Some people may agree with your opinion, without evidence, others may not, as your opinion not being creditable.
And when you make an accusation about a specific person, without Evidence, that is called Slander, or Spiritually, called a false testimony, and not facts.

FYI, I am not confused.

Glory to God,
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Dave L said:
They have no direct bible quotes to support any of their beliefs.

Really? Let's see what you mean...

How about you give a direct Quote of Van Impe, that you say has no Biblical support.

Glory to God,
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Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

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Really? Let's see what you mean...

How about you give a direct Quote of Van Impe, that you say has no Biblical support.

Glory to God,
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Find one verse supporting a pre-trib rapture. Or a 7 year tribulation. Or a restored Roman Empire. Or Russia marching on Israel. Or a return to animal sacrifices in the New Covenant...... or anything else they hallucinate.

Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

Taken said:
Ya, okay Dave. You keep making accusations and giving your opinions, without Evidence, and that just is what it is. Some people may agree with your opinion, without evidence, others may not, as your opinion not being creditable.
And when you make an accusation about a specific person, without Evidence, that is called Slander, or Spiritually, called a false testimony, and not facts.

FYI, I am not confused.

Glory to God,
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You need to study before speaking.

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Dave L said:
Find one verse supporting a pre-trib rapture. Or a 7 year tribulation. Or a restored Roman Empire. Or Russia marching on Israel. Or a return to animal sacrifices in the New Covenant...... or anything else they hallucinate.

Try to stay on Point of the discussion Before Deflecting and moving on to another Topic.

Eh?

Glory to God,
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Dave L · Dec 24, 2018

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Try to stay on Point of the discussion Before Deflecting and moving on to another Topic.

Eh?

Glory to God,
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This corresponds to your question about me supporting my claims. Answer only one doctrine with a direct quote from scripture and I'll eat my computer.

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