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I understand that.His days are not like ours.but what do you believe could be the span of these days?
 

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I understand that.His days are not like ours.but what do you believe could be the span of these days?
6 x 1000 = 6,000 years (6 Days to God)
 
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So, when God commanded something to come forth, on the day it was, it took 1,000 to make them or did they come right when He commanded them to, but there was still 1,000 years left?Am I correct or am I missing something here?
 

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So, when God commanded something to come forth, on the day it was, it took 1,000 to make them or did they come right when He commanded them to, but there was still 1,000 years left?Am I correct or am I missing something here?
I can't really give you a clear cut answer. But I honestly think He made them quick on His Time, but on our time, it was by time. Just like it takes a while on our time to see the newborn baby.
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ohhhhhh,you know, that does make a lot of sense now. six days to us, 6,000 years to God. Since we don't understand a lot of the things God says, He probably used something we are familiar with.okay, so, if God, for some reason, gave you or me a vision of the Creation week and let us watch it or something, and after we watch it, do you think it would seem like six days went by, but it really wasn't six days to God? this is just hypothetical, of course. I don't know whether God would ever give you, I, or someone else here a vision of the Creation week. lol
 

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ohhhhhh,you know, that does make a lot of sense now. six days to us, 6,000 years to God. Since we don't understand a lot of the things God says, He probably used something we are familiar with.okay, so, if God, for some reason, gave you or me a vision of the Creation week and let us watch it or something, and after we watch it, do you think it would seem like six days went by, but it really wasn't six days to God? this is just hypothetical, of course. I don't know whether God would ever give you, I, or someone else here a vision of the Creation week. lol
That's nonsense the creation week was 6 days and not 6000 years all this 6000 years does is to undermine God as if He were not powerful enough to do it in 6days. What's more the bible does not support this notion this was descussed in another thread. also the Hebrew word for days in Genesis translates as six literal days not years. This idea of 6000 years came after evolutionist started saying the earth was billions of years which it is not. Take the time yourself to search scriptures and don't blindly believe.Here is a site that can help with some of those answers but like I said search and study for yourself the scriptures and follow what God confirms to you.http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v...1/gaptheory.asphttp://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i1/days.asp I would like to discuss on this a bit more but will have to later.
 
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Alistein-No, I'm not believing that God isn't powerful enough to do it in six days. It would most likely be six days to us, but a different timing for God. It's just a thought. Like superjag said, we can't give an exact answer. We don't depend our salvation upon this. Man is a very curious creature, so we are examining places in the Bible on this subject. It is written in God's word...2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."I'm not blindly believing anything. I do know what I believe. Superjag and kriss are just helping me out understanding this. Everything is alright.God bless you friend
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That's nonsense the creation week was 6 days and not 6000 years all this 6000 years does is to undermine God as if He were not powerful enough to do it in 6days. What's more the bible does not support this notion this was descussed in another thread. also the Hebrew word for days in Genesis translates as six literal days not years. This idea of 6000 years came after evolutionist started saying the earth was billions of years which it is not. Take the time yourself to search scriptures and don't blindly believe.Here is a site that can help with some of those answers but like I said search and study for yourself the scriptures and follow what God confirms to you.http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v...1/gaptheory.asphttp://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i1/days.asp I would like to discuss on this a bit more but will have to later.
Don't forget, each verse that says "first day", "second day", "third day", etc... says, "morning and evening, the first day."It's obvious to anyone, once seeing this, that it is one literal day (if it wasn't obvious enough beforehand), accept to those who are willfully set in their way to believe what they want to believe, against God's clearly spoken Word.In anycase, I agree.
 

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ohhhhhh,you know, that does make a lot of sense now. six days to us, 6,000 years to God. Since we don't understand a lot of the things God says, He probably used something we are familiar with.okay, so, if God, for some reason, gave you or me a vision of the Creation week and let us watch it or something, and after we watch it, do you think it would seem like six days went by, but it really wasn't six days to God? this is just hypothetical, of course. I don't know whether God would ever give you, I, or someone else here a vision of the Creation week. lol
Right Sola_Scriptura. 6 human days is not 6 Days to God. To tell you the Truth, Morning_Joy (I just got to use your previous name, I miss you) 6 human days is not even 1 hour to God.Here is a link of a math problem I did for how many human days for 1000 human years for 1 single Day to God. Kriss loves it.1 Hour to God is 5 human months for us.Hour of TemptationI hope this will help you on the understanding, even though this is slightly off-topic.P.S. The answer is highlighted in RED in the link.
 

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Alistein-No, I'm not believing that God isn't powerful enough to do it in six days. It would most likely be six days to us, but a different timing for God. It's just a thought. Like superjag said, we can't give an exact answer. We don't depend our salvation upon this. Man is a very curious creature, so we are examining places in the Bible on this subject. It is written in God's word...2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."I'm not blindly believing anything. I do know what I believe. Superjag and kriss are just helping me out understanding this. Everything is alright.God bless you friend
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2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."8But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.(NIV)It says I day is as or like 1000years not 1 day =1000years. this verse came from Psalm 90:44For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.(KJV)For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.(NIV. Ask yourself is a day thesame as a watch in the night? Obviously not so how can it be talking about an exact time, itr's more like a metaphor. The bible says God inhabits eternity Isaiah 57:15For thus says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy:“ I dwell in the high and holy place, With him who has a contrite and humble spirit, To revive the spirit of the humble, And to revive the heart of the contrite ones. If God inhabits eternity then he cannot be bound by time but by saying a day to God is a 1000years you are binding him to time one that does not work. More over it is time that makes God very slow to Humans and there fore less appreciative. It would be sensible and much better to say 1 day to us is a 1000years to God as in that way all God's action however long they take is instant and amazing in our sight and therefore highly appreciated. This is just logic. God is not bound by time but we are thererefore if God is to work in our lives He is subject to our time only because we are.If he were to heal a person for example it would have to be done when the person is still alive and not dead. If God calls you for a specific purpose He is going to have to work within your length of days to bring that purpose to manifestation.Also you should read the whole chapter there is the indication that people like today were looking at the time and wondering why the Lord had not come. Peter emphasized that the Lord was Longsuffering or patient more so to following a specific time.The idea is that the Lord wanted every one to have enough time to make their choice. knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.God bless you as well.
 
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Alistein-You're very right friendgood use of Scripture
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you may not know this about me, but I'm only on this site to learn. I'm not here to debate or accuse anyone. I was just wondering how some people viewed the Creation week. I believe the Creation week. But as far as whether God had a different time during Creation or not, I don't know. It's pretty confusing to me a lot, yet I remember God not being the author of confusion. So I must be confusing myself or something...
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Alistein-You're very right friendgood use of Scripture
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you may not know this about me, but I'm only on this site to learn. I'm not here to debate or accuse anyone. I was just wondering how some people viewed the Creation week. I believe the Creation week. But as far as whether God had a different time during Creation or not, I don't know. It's pretty confusing to me a lot, yet I remember God not being the author of confusion. So I must be confusing myself or something...
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Men only confuses themselves in a few reasons. 1. Either let the pastor do the thinking for them and not check the Word for themselves. 2...even if we're studying by ourselves, it's our thoughts that can create confusions. (Isaiah 55:8-9, I Corinthians 14:33, John 3:19) I rather let Him teach me only...Notice that Adam who lived 930 years, (Genesis 5:5) died the very same Day (in God's Time) because he has not reach 1000 years old.
 

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Sorry to disappoint, but I agree with Peter and you're the one lying.Peter understood God's infinite character. God is not restrained by time and that is all Peter was saying. How you can interpret that as a literal, finite equation is annoying. When Peter reiterates that a day is as a 1,000 years, he could have said 1,000,000 years, or 1,000,000,000. He wasn't trying to lay out an equation for us to measure God up with. he didn't concentrate on the number, but he concentrate on how God is LONG SUFFERING. He doesn't go into any ideological view about how creation was actually 1,000 years for each day... he was simply expressing how God is not restrained by the demension of time, and is long suffering.Believe what you want, you're wrong. And in this area, you do not teach the truth.
Oh yes, Peter difinately agreed that the Earth was over 6,000 years old. He definately told us about the previous Earth Age being destroyed by water. And of course God is longsuffering, because he is not bound by our human times, He has His own time, where humans have a problem with it where some people count slackness (II Peter 3:9)
 

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Oh yes, Peter difinately agreed that the Earth was over 6,000 years old. He definately told us about the previous Earth Age being destroyed by water. And of course God is longsuffering, because he is not bound by our human times, He has His own time, where humans have a problem with it where some people count slackness (II Peter 3:9)
No pastor is doing anythinking here we are all using scripture and the scriptures you use does not prove your point in my opinion. Yes thoughts can create confusion which means you could as well be confused just as i could.Genesis 5:55And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. It says days not day or hours.No where does it say Adam died on thesame day. The word of God always comments on itself and as far as i see no scripture supports this notion of a 1000years. Here is another example where scripture comments on itself and clarifies things Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. This clearly shows this were simple literal earth days and not thousands of years. God said it himself no confusion there, He did not say work for a few hours. As I said to accept your notion is to limit God and bound Him with time which cannot be also I said the time doesn't work because there is no advantage to God or us in it. For God us God working on such time scale makes Him too slow and who would bother petitioning Him Knowing those petitions may not show up in his lifetime may be not until his tenth generation. The bible is also very logical i:e it makes sense which is one of the standpoints of apologetics and your notion of God's time doesn't.show from scriptures examples of God using this timescale
 

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Oh yes, Peter difinately agreed that the Earth was over 6,000 years old. He definately told us about the previous Earth Age being destroyed by water. And of course God is longsuffering, because he is not bound by our human times, He has His own time, where humans have a problem with it where some people count slackness (II Peter 3:9)
No pastor is doing anythinking here we are all using scripture and the scriptures you use does not prove your point in my opinion. Yes thoughts can create confusion which means you could as well be confused just as i could.Genesis 5:55And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. It says days not day or hours.No where does it say Adam died on thesame day. The word of God always comments on itself and as far as i see no scripture supports this notion of a 1000years. Here is another example where scripture comments on itself and clarifies things Exodus 20:8-11Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. This clearly shows this were simple literal earth days and not thousands of years. God said it himself no confusion there, He did not say work for a few hours. As I said to accept your notion is to limit God and bound Him with time which cannot be also I said the time doesn't work because there is no advantage to God or us in it. For God us God working on such time scale makes Him too slow and who would bother petitioning Him Knowing those petitions may not show up in his lifetime may be not until his tenth generation. The bible is also very logical i:e it makes sense which is one of the standpoints of apologetics and your notion of God's time doesn't.show from scriptures examples of God using this timescaleIf you want to limit God that His days are our days. That's fine by me. But it is nowhere near true. You guy are so wrapped up in human days all the time theory.
 

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Alistein-You're very right friendgood use of Scripture
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you may not know this about me, but I'm only on this site to learn. I'm not here to debate or accuse anyone. I was just wondering how some people viewed the Creation week. I believe the Creation week. But as far as whether God had a different time during Creation or not, I don't know. It's pretty confusing to me a lot, yet I remember God not being the author of confusion. So I must be confusing myself or something...
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Sorry if It seems like I accused you,I had no intention of such. Like you I am also interested in learning . The bible says Iron sharpeneth iron.Also in 1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.There is bound to be this so a site like these helps sometimes in such matters. In anycase I glad to be of help.
 

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Alistein-You're very right friendgood use of Scripture:)you may not know this about me, but I'm only on this site to learn. I'm not here to debate or accuse anyone. I was just wondering how some people viewed the Creation week. I believe the Creation week. But as far as whether God had a different time during Creation or not, I don't know.It's pretty confusing to me a lot, yet I remember God not being the author of confusion. So I must be confusing myself or something...
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Sorry if It seems like I accused you,I had no intention of such. Like you I am also interested in learning . The bible says Iron sharpeneth iron.Also in 1 Corinthians 11:19For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.There is bound to be this so a site like these helps sometimes in such matters. In anycase I glad to be of help.It is a heresy to say that God Days are the same as our human days. And this is a downright flatout lie.
 

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If you want to limit God that His days are our days. That's fine by me. But it is nowhere near true. You guy are so wrapped up in human days all the time theory.
Then prove your theory after all you came by it from the word. I am not limiting God, you are. To me God is beyond time and we only see him in time because we are not beyond it but are bound by it. Infact Genesis says in the beginning before that time there was no such thing as time. God therefore initiated time in genesis 1:1. When we are resurrected at the second coming or after the end comes we will no longer be bound by time as it would come to an end and eternity will set in.
 

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It is a heresy to say that God Days are the same as our human days. And this is a downright flatout lie.
Where is the heresy? Are you calling God a liar? Exodus 20:1111For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.Genesis 2:2-32And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. God did not mention anything like a thousand years and like I said of what use is a time scale like the one you mentioned it is no good as far as i am concerned for humans.God inhabits eternity so there is no such things as God days.
 
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