Are we on our way to the GWT?

What an amazing event this will be.Who do you think will be there?....will you?Berlieving the way i do, i would say yes, everyone who has ever lived will be there.Quote: Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deedsIve underlined the points i want to emphasise on.Jesus said that he was coming quickly to render to every man ....according to his deeds.Quote: "Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." and in rom 2;Quote: But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignationPeter said the heaven and the earth would pass away,at his coming, but dont worry we look for the new heaven and earth where righteousness only dwells.Doesnt it appear like -at the 2nd coming we go to the GWT?Here is more scripture to suggest this.;Quote: Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?" 14 I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. 16 "They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes." When does God wipe away the tears? rev 21.,At the GWT.---right after the G-TRIB.Also notice that the book of life is opened at the GWT.In other words the sons of God are revealed once the book is opened,not before, and those names not found in it are thrown into the fire.Jesus warned,he who overcomes ;Quote: 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. 6 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.' Yes i believe we will all be there, hence the plea to found watching (awake) and to be ready, lest your name is found to be erased out of the book, when it is finally opened.

Hello samyFunny this thread shou;d pop up today.Ive actually spent the whole day reviewing this post, as i save my work to word pad, and look what i did to it.Are we on our way to the GWT? Who do you think will be there?....will you?Berlieving the way i do, i would say yes, everyone who has ever lived will be there.Here is why. -----link between the second coming and judgement for all.Quote: Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deedsIve underlined the points i want to emphasise on.Jesus said that he was coming quickly to render to every man ....according to his deeds.Quote: REV 22"Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." MATT 1627 "For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. and in rom 2;Quote: But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignationDoesnt it appear like -at the 2nd coming we go to the GWT?This is where he seperates the sheep from the goats at his coming-those on his right go to the home of righteousness and those on his left are thrown into the fire prepared for the devil and his angels. matt 25:31This means that the one sitting on the GWT is Jesus---This is the judgement seat of Christ.JN 5 confirms that at the ressurection all judgement is given to the son-some are raised to glory (those on his right) some to shame (left) see dan 12.Then the righteous will shine in the kingdom of their father-------see matt 13Look carefully at Jn 5"Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. 26 "For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; 27 and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man. 28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment. Is it not clear that the lord utters his voice once, and all come forth-----some are in the book of life some are not.-see rom 2Quote: Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?" 14 I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. 16 "They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes." When does God wipe away the tears? rev 21.,At the GWT.---right after the G-TRIB............(and the second coming.)Also notice that the book of life is opened at the GWT.In other words the sons of God are revealed once the book is opened,not before, and those names not found in it are thrown into the fire.Jesus warned,he who overcomes ;Quote: 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. 6 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.' Yes i believe we will all be there, hence the plea to found watching (awake) and to be ready, lest your name is found to be erased out of the book, when it is finally opened.I know this has a serious effect on how we interpret the millenium and the first ressurection,but consider how it not mentioned..Jesus links the heavens and the earth passing away at his coming, and this is what happens at the GWT.How then can he rule on this earth for 1000 years after his coming, if it disappears from view forever when he comes again.He did say that he went away to prepare the place for us-- in the fathers house-the home of righteousness, why would he want to establish it on this old rock.-flesh and blood planet??No, his kingdom is not of this worldbehold he makes it all new and it descends out of heavenPeter wants us to look to these things-the day the old perishes and him being recieved by the lord in the home of righteousness."In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. 4 "And you know the way where I am going."But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. 11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells. Wasnt that his promise in JN 14--TO COME AND RECIEVE US INTO THE FATHERS HOUSE?He recieves us, when at the ressurection the last day, we all rise to meet him and be with him forever.--Flesh and blood needs to put on immortality, so we can inherit the kingdom prepared..35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah."He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. 45 "He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me. 46 "I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness. 47 "If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 49 "For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak. 50 "I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told Me." This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40 "For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." God bless.

May I ask Jeff and others who think theres no millieium what do you do with Chapter 20 of Rev.?
Of course you may Kriss.Those who partake of the 1st ressurection are safe from the second death, it cant hurt them..agreed?I know you do.Those who accept Jesus as their lord and saviour , and are born again,are also safe from the second death...is this true?Has the new believer passed from death to life?And they washed their robes in the blood of the lamb and overcame.REV 5
Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. 10 "You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."
REV 20
Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
Now lets look at Jn 5
"Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. 26 "For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; 27 and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man. 28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.
Now is?It seems to me that from the moment of him appearing before God as the slain lamb -on his ascension, HE HATH MADE US PRIESTS BY HIS BLOOD.He hath seated us in the heavenly realms---I no longer live ,but Christ lives in me.....We have already passed from death to life, so the day that the body is raised--the day of redemption, wont be a second death to us, as Christs Spirit is in us. He who does not have the Spirit of Christ is none of his, and the day he comes will reveal it.
This is a plain indication of God's righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.
Jesus warns us to overcome-to be part of the first ressurection, lest we be hurt by the second death and have our name erased from the book of life.
'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. 6 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.'

'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.'

I have wondered often if there is actually going to be a physical millennial reign here on earth because there is so much controversy and opinion about it.
What is the purpose of the millenium? Whats it for?If Christ is visible in the world, is it still possible to be saved?Can we have faith in something we see?Ive posted many scriptures that support the fact that when Christ comes, its a day of eternal Judgement for the wicked, and a day of glorious reward for us.
This is a plain indication of God's righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed
"Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. 6 For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come. 7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; 8 in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing.

Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind; 48 and when it was filled, they drew it up on the beach; and they sat down and gathered the good fish into containers, but the bad they threw away. 49 "So it will be at the end[28][Or consummation ] of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous, 50 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(GWT)Theres no left but us is there?If Jesus comes and deals with the wicked first, then he isnt coming to gather us into a millenial reign first..that make sense?"The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 "Then THE RIGHTEOUS WILL SHINE FORTH AS THE SUN in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear. Gods best to you all