Man made Bible

(Jenn4God;4415)
Again, that was meant for the jews, not the gentiles. To this day, jews still believe that way.
And why is it in the christian bible?Please...

(SwampFox;4414)
That is, of course, if you follow the relevance of these obscure books found in locations such as the deserts of Egypt. The books that are in the Bible have found their way in there for a reason - the very same reason that sent Christ to die on the cross for us. Frankly speaking, I just don't see how you can believe the part and not the whole. Again, why would God send us his only begotten son and then not ensure the protection of everything he stood for? I'm using the same loving, caring God definition that you're using and it's just not adding up.
The books are obscure because the committee that compiled the bible didn't like them. I think that g*d pretty much left us alone to do as we wish a long, long time ago. What's to stop humanity from making an abomination like the bible? Why didn't christ leave a gospel himself? Why trust us feeble humans capable of the worst atrocities to do this if it was so important? It was important enough for him to come live among us. Why not write a book in the process? (SwampFox;4414)
"Blind faith" is a misnomer IMHO, though we do use it often; how you can be blind to what you cannot see anyway? Your opinion of blind faith may differ greatly from mine and your use of it based solely on your opinion. We can argue all day long about that.
Well, I could agree with it. Though I cannot comprehend why logic and reason cannot go hand in hand with faith.(SwampFox;4414)
*snip*The so called "law of love" is often employed to mean, frankly speaking, that as long as I "love" I can do whatever the heck I want.
Au contraire brother. If you let yourself love everything and everyone then you can do no harm. At least intentionally.(SwampFox;4414)
The problem with the law, before Christ, was that people became so obssessed with following it that they got away from a relationship with God and were more concerned about carrying the law out.
Then why be so concerned about following just a few laws and leaving the other ones to rot? (SwampFox;4414)
Nope. We have the ability to be forgiven when we do break them; God is the judge of us on that. The entire object is that you do your best to follow them and as God acknowledges, we're not perfect and we have Christ for that.
And what I am saying is that IF _that_ is the law, then no christian I know does his best to follow it. I've already given quite a few examples of pretty explicit laws in the bible that nobody in his right mind would attempt to follow. (SwampFox;4414)
Salvation is a personal matter.
One thing we can agree with.

(Jenn4God;4431)
Because God wants us to learn from it. If you continue to ask dumb questions, I will have to insist that you find your own answers.
I am done with this. I do not wish to start a flame war here, its pretty clear that you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about and are degrading this discussion to name calling. Carry on with your closed mind and hatred towards those who do not share your views. Your "know it all" and "holier than thou" attitude will be duly noted.

(kriss;4437)
And why is it in the christian bible?IT JUST ISN'T A CHRISTIAN BIBLE!!!! its the word of God Old testament is the same basic thing as its been from the beginning and was handed down by mouth from Jew to Jew Generation to Generation still in effect still Gods word only New Testament added after Christ the anointed of God brought New Covenant Christianity has all its beginnings and roots in Judaism Christ was a Jew the apostles were Jews raised in Judaism Christianity is a branch,shoot off of Judaism its is called Judeo-Christian same God same book New Testament added the New covenant made it possible, opened the door for all gentiles.The new testament confirms and reveals the old testament why do you not get that ? Think of it as tree Judaism is the root Christianity is a branch on the tree the branch can't be without the root the branch can't turn into a different kind of tree than the root.It may get more sun and look different than the root but inside they are the same.Because it is the time of the gentiles the Jews didn't recognize Christ as their anointed one so they are expecting him to come any day for the first time the christian accepts Christ as the anointed one and is waiting for him to return a second time same anointed one sent by same God
Whoa, first of all. Punctuation marks! I know I can be a little annoying and a rant is in order. At least you're not calling me names yet! Thank you.Second. I would wholeheartedly agree with you IF what you are saying is that those laws are not meant for us gentiles. The point I've been trying to make throughout my posts is that it just seems hypocritical to me that people would take a subset of these laws and just disregard them as they wish, all the while they're condemning others who break a different set of laws written in the very same books. Sometimes separated by just a few verses.

(SwampFox;4448)
So this loving, caring God that gave us the law of God has now left us alone to do what we want. He sent his son simply to die while we take and corrupt what his son was sent for in the first place? Sorry, but when you speak of logic this just doesn't hold water for me. Why trust us humans? Because he is God, afterall and there are countless examples of him working through those same corrupt souls to save them!
No, he sent his son as a last ditch effort to try and point us in the right direction. (SwampFox;4448)
I disagree - homosexuals invoke the law of love; even pedophiles say the very same thing...ever heard of NAMBLA? I love God but I make mistakes daily. We're not perfect and will never be, we sin. We all have faults but that doesn't mean there isn't good within us.
Well, NAMBLA is why we have secular laws prohibiting it. Back in those days it was perfectly common for a man to marry a 12 or 13 year old girl. No mention of pedophilia in the bible is there? I know we're not perfect. I am the first to admit it. And you still talk of homosexuals as the abomination that the bible describes, when, in the next paragraph you say: (SwampFox;4448)
However, much of what you have quoted in previous threads is directed at Israel in the wilderness. Take, for instance, the man found above in the wilderness on Sabbath - this is obviously a specific case for that particular time. The same works for the rule that is addressed to the people Israel. That's instructing this particular people. I've addressed some of your other concerns in the other in thread.
So the homosexuality is an abomination law was just meant for the people of Israel? Please, we need to reconcile these beliefs. Either you believe that the laws of the old testament were meant for the people of Israel and a christian can safely disregard those laws based on the fact that Christ died for our sins, Or you believe that the laws are there for us to follow and hence, you have to make your best effort to follow every law to the letter. (SwampFox;4448)
I cannot judge someone and will not judge someone. Period. I do my best to follow the law, though I fail. I am human.
Again, see above. Is the law to be followed or not? (SwampFox;4448)
But then again, you believe the Bible to be one big lie, so I don't know if there's anymore to discuss.
I think we're past the big lie part, and more into "do we follow the laws" part.