THE DAY OF CHRIST

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1 Corinthians 1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.


From the verses above, we can read that the "day of Christ", is not the "rapture" of the body of Christ, wherein the body of Christ is caught up to meet the Lord in the air, but rather, it is the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.


2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Again, the "day of Christ", is the coming of the Lord.

Paul is not saying, that, our gathering together unto him, or the "rapture", is the "day of Christ", but rather, Paul is saying; We beseech you by "the coming" and "by our gathering together". Paul is saying, it is by these two things, that we beseech you. By these two things, we beseech you, that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, that the day of Christ is at hand; the day when Christ comes.

The Lord does indeed come to gather us unto him, but it is not the "day of Christ".

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

The Lord, in his "day of Christ", will come to destroy that "Wicked", the antichrist.
 

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C. I. Scoffield states in a footnote in the Oxford NIV Scofield Study Bible, p. 1198:

"The expression 'the day of our Lord Jesus Christ,' identified with His coming (1 Cor 1:7), is the period of blessing for the Church beginning with the rapture. This coming day is referred to as 'the day of the Lord' (1 Cor 5:5; 2 Cor 1:14), 'the day of Christ Jesus' (Phil 1:6), and 'the day of Christ' (Phil 1:10; 2:16), 'The day of Christ' in all six references in the N.T. is described as relating to the reward and blessing of the Church at the rapture

The Day of Christ is part of the day of the Lord.
 

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From the verses above, we can read that the "day of Christ", is not the "rapture" of the body of Christ, wherein the body of Christ is caught up to meet the Lord in the air, but rather, it is the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.
There is no "but rather" here. The Day of Christ is the day of the Resurrection/Rapture when Christ comes FOR His saints.
The Lord does indeed come to gather us unto him, but it is not the "day of Christ".
You are repeating the same error. Christ gathers His saints to Himself at the Rapture which is indeed the Day of Christ.
 

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The Day of Christ is part of the day of the Lord.
Only if you wish to accept the fact that th Day of Christ precedes the day of the LORD by at least seven years. Strictly speaking the day of the LORD coincides with the Great Tribulation and its aftermath (the shaking of the heavens and the earth), followed by the Second Coming of Christ.
 

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Only if you wish to accept the fact that th Day of Christ precedes the day of the LORD by at least seven years. Strictly speaking the day of the LORD coincides with the Great Tribulation and its aftermath (the shaking of the heavens and the earth), followed by the Second Coming of Christ.


It starts the DOTL
 

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C. I. Scoffield states in a footnote in the Oxford NIV Scofield Study Bible, p. 1198:

"The expression 'the day of our Lord Jesus Christ,' identified with His coming (1 Cor 1:7), is the period of blessing for the Church beginning with the rapture. This coming day is referred to as 'the day of the Lord' (1 Cor 5:5; 2 Cor 1:14), 'the day of Christ Jesus' (Phil 1:6), and 'the day of Christ' (Phil 1:10; 2:16), 'The day of Christ' in all six references in the N.T. is described as relating to the reward and blessing of the Church at the rapture

The Day of Christ is part of the day of the Lord.

Yes I agree to a point.....the "rapture" is part of our gathering together. The day of Christ is His coming again; they are not exactly the same. The day of Christ also has a sense of inclusion of the judgment seat as well. There is some sense of overlap between the rapture, day of Christ, and the day of the Lord.
 

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Yes I agree to a point.....the "rapture" is part of our gathering together. The day of Christ is His coming again; they are not exactly the same. The day of Christ also has a sense of inclusion of the judgment seat as well. There is some sense of overlap between the rapture, day of Christ, and the day of the Lord.

No it does not. The church faithful Israel never go before White throne judgment. That is the second resurrection, 1000 years after the first.

The rapture seven years before the second coming. Totally different purposes.
 

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There is no "but rather" here. The Day of Christ is the day of the Resurrection/Rapture when Christ comes FOR His saints.

You are repeating the same error. Christ gathers His saints to Himself at the Rapture which is indeed the Day of Christ.

The "rapture" and the day of Christ are connected. We are raptured before the day of the Lord and are gathered together with Christ before and with him as He comes at the day of Christ.
 

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No it does not. The church faithful Israel never go before White throne judgment. That is the second resurrection, 1000 years after the first.

The rapture seven years before the second coming. Totally different purposes.

The judgment seat of Christ is not the great white throne judgment. The great white throne is for unbelievers, who are raised last and face the second death. The judgment seat is to receive reward and praise.
 

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The judgment seat of Christ is not the great white throne judgment. The great white throne is for unbelievers, who are raised last and face the second death. The judgment seat is to receive reward and praise.

No, that is the wedding supper of the Lamb.
 

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The marriage supper is not in view with the judgment seat.

The bride is the the new Jerusalem Revelation 21:9 and Revelation 21:10
 

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The marriage supper is not in view with the judgment seat.

The bride is the the new Jerusalem Revelation 21:9 and Revelation 21:10

So you think a city as a bride?

2 Corinthians 11:2-3 New International Version (NIV) 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3

Ephesians 5:25-27 New International Version (NIV)
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansinga]">[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

In the OT Jerusalem was called a woman. Israel the wife of God.

In Revelation Israel.

On top of that you want call the New Jerusalem the wife of Christ in you accused Christ of adultery because the above verses say the church is his bride.

You need to reconsider your thinking.


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  4. great things
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I would considering that Christ spoke in parables and the Bible does use a lot of metaphoric language.

Gal. 4:26
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

He spoke in the terms of the language of that day. Things that people understood clearly without long explanation.

Like today. A picture is worth 1000 words.
 

Doug

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The marriage supper is not in view with the judgment seat.

The bride is the the new Jerusalem Revelation 21:9 and Revelation 21:10

To clarify; the marriage supper refers to the Kingdom of God on earth promised to Israel.
See Revelation 19:9 Luke 14:15
 
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1 Corinthians 1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.


From the verses above, we can read that the "day of Christ", is not the "rapture" of the body of Christ, wherein the body of Christ is caught up to meet the Lord in the air, but rather, it is the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.


2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Again, the "day of Christ", is the coming of the Lord.

Paul is not saying, that, our gathering together unto him, or the "rapture", is the "day of Christ", but rather, Paul is saying; We beseech you by "the coming" and "by our gathering together". Paul is saying, it is by these two things, that we beseech you. By these two things, we beseech you, that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, that the day of Christ is at hand; the day when Christ comes.

The Lord does indeed come to gather us unto him, but it is not the "day of Christ".

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

The Lord, in his "day of Christ", will come to destroy that "Wicked", the antichrist.
1 Corinthians 1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming [apocalypse = Revelation] of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Fulfilled: “The Revelation [apocalypse = Revelation] of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:” (Revelation 1:1) (KJV 1900)

This is a proof text against the gift of tongues continuing beyond John's writing of the book of Revelation.
 

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So you think a city as a bride?

2 Corinthians 11:2-3 New International Version (NIV) 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3

Ephesians 5:25-27 New International Version (NIV)
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansinga]">[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

In the OT Jerusalem was called a woman. Israel the wife of God.

In Revelation Israel.

On top of that you want call the New Jerusalem the wife of Christ in you accused Christ of adultery because the above verses say the church is his bride.

You need to reconsider your thinking.


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meg'-as Adjective

Definition
  1. great
    1. of the external form or sensible appearance of things (or of persons)
      1. in particular, of space and its dimensions, as respects 1a
    2. mass and weight: great 1a
    3. compass and extent: large, spacious 1a
    4. measure and height: long 1a
    5. stature and age: great, old
    6. of number and quantity: numerous, large, abundant
    7. of age: the elder
    8. used of intensity and its degrees: with great effort, of the affections and emotions of the mind, of natural events powerfully affecting the senses: violent, mighty, strong
  2. predicated of rank, as belonging to
    1. persons, eminent for ability, virtue, authority, power
    2. things esteemed highly for their importance: of great moment, of great weight, importance
    3. a thing to be highly esteemed for its excellence: excellent
  3. splendid, prepared on a grand scale, stately
  4. great things
    1. of God's preeminent blessings
    2. of things which overstep the province of a created being, proud (presumptuous) things, full of arrogance, derogatory to the majesty of God

The new Jerusalem is in a sense Israel; Revelation refers to the twelve tribes Revelation 21:12 the twelve apostles Revelation 21:14 and the people of God,Israel Revelation 21:3

Paul did not say the church is Christ's bride. Paul used marriage to illustrate the relationship of Christ and the church. In Ephesians 5 Christ is the head of the church as a husband is in a marriage. The husband loves the wife as Christ loves the church. Husband and wife become one flesh which expresses the relationship of Christ and the church as seen in verses 31 and 32.
 

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The judgment seat of Christ is not the great white throne judgment. The great white throne is for unbelievers, who are raised last and face the second death. The judgment seat is to receive reward and praise.


...and losses. Many believers will be exposed as lax in their duties and be cast out of God's presence...a place they were very at home with in this life. We tend to keep God where we want Him.

It is very possible to be cast into outer darkness as a believer in Christ. The onus is on us to grow and be obedient to the efforts of God to transform us into the image of Christ. In these days of spoiled Christianity, no one seems interested in the true righteousness of God. God will judge correctly according to what we do with what we have been given. There is no favouritism with God.
 

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The new Jerusalem is in a sense Israel; Revelation refers to the twelve tribes Revelation 21:12 the twelve apostles Revelation 21:14 and the people of God,Israel Revelation 21:3

Paul did not say the church is Christ's bride. Paul used marriage to illustrate the relationship of Christ and the church. In Ephesians 5 Christ is the head of the church as a husband is in a marriage. The husband loves the wife as Christ loves the church. Husband and wife become one flesh which expresses the relationship of Christ and the church as seen in verses 31 and 32.

Of course it's not marriage in the earthly sense.

But I posted two versus that disprove your claims.

Marriage Super of the Lamb