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In 1914, Catholicism and Protestantism were beginning to experience some friction in their relationships, after several decades of seeming peace, despite many centuries previous of hostile persecution against and from both sides, but a millenia from Catholicism. This Protestant preacher, whose name to me is unknown, was not backward in coming forward with his very politically incorrect perspective of the spiritual condition of the Catholic church. While you may consider his speech somewhat hostile, and unwarranted, ( I actually, when giving consideration to all history) tend to agree with him, although in todays climate such a tack perhaps not too rewarding as to winning souls for Christ from the Catholic communion, is at least from a Protestant perspective, highly entertaining and eloquently presented. There are five separate presentations, each having within them many true references to the Catholic faith and their doctrines, beginning with the introduction at the link below, and continuing with each subsequent link at the bottom of each page as you come to them. NOT recommended for Catholics.
WHY PREACH AGAINST ROME?

PS. I Humbly add a late correction...the Gentleman's name is a certain Mr Rutledge.
 
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Just to draw your attention to this, I think you guys would enjoy it. Also give you much food for thought, as it should anyone else reading through this honest and enlightening series. @Phoneman777 @Enoch111 @GodsGrace @amadeus @bbyrd009 @gadar perets @Soverign Grace @Hidden In Him @Naomi25 @Willie T @"ByGrace" @Trekson @APAK @Waiting on him @Reggie Belafonte @Harvest 1874 @Episkopos @CoreIssue @Ac28 @Dave L @Taken @Nancy @mjrhealth @Stranger @Truth @VictoryinJesus @ScottA @Mayflower @justbyfaith

Wonder if I missed anyone???? @BreadOfLife ? @epostle1 @Marymog ? Could they stomach this??
 
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the prob imo is that this guy is now openly and pridefully judging another's servant, as if Protestantism does not suffer from the same ills?
 

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Just to draw your attention to this, I think you guys would enjoy it. Also give you much food for thought, as it should anyone else reading through this honest and enlightening series. @Phoneman777 @Enoch111 @GodsGrace @amadeus @bbyrd009 @gadar perets @Soverign Grace @Hidden In Him @Naomi25 @Willie T @"ByGrace" @Trekson @APAK @Waiting on him @Reggie Belafonte @Harvest 1874 @Episkopos @CoreIssue @Ac28 @Dave L @Taken @Nancy @mjrhealth @Stranger @Truth @VictoryinJesus @ScottA @Mayflower @justbyfaith

Wonder if I missed anyone???? @BreadOfLife ? @epostle1 @Marymog ? Could they stomach this??
Too late here...
Tomorrow.
 
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the prob imo is that this guy is now openly and pridefully judging another's servant, as if Protestantism does not suffer from the same ills?
He's judging a system that encourages sin and openly condemns the US constitution, free speech, free press, and freedom of conscience. IIt is a system that is no more in harmony with American ideals of freedom than is sharia. As he pointed out, a Catholic's loyalty is first and foremost with the Vatican and therefore has no right to legally take office in any legislative committee or process, such as congress or the supreme court. Imagine what he would have been saying if he had witnessed today's situation?
 
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He's judging a system that encourages sin and openly condemns the US constitution, free speech, free press, and freedom of conscience. IIt is a system that is no more in harmony with American ideals of freedom than is sharia. As he pointed out, a Catholic's loyalty is first and foremost with the Vatican and therefore has no right to legally take office in any legislative committee or process, such as congress or the supreme court. Imagine what he would have been saying if he had witnessed today's situation?
I found it interesting re his complaint against the church because then, in the early 20th century, habitually removed offending priests (guilty of adultery and having illicit relationships with young women...it seems his proclivities forbade him from mentioning anything more nasty) from their current parish to somewhere unknown...seems that practice is older than we perhaps realised.
 
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In 1918 Karl Barth published his Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans, where he tried - unsuccessfully in my humble view - to reconcile the Protestant (forensic reckoning) versus Roman Catholic (infusion) views of the pivotal doctrine of justification, among the principle doctrines which had led to the Reformation in the 16th century.
 
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In 1918 Karl Barth published his Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans, where he tried - unsuccessfully in my humble view - to reconcile the Protestant (forensic reckoning) versus Roman Catholic (infusion) views of the pivotal doctrine of justification, among the principle doctrines which had led to the Reformation in the 16th century.
The soteriological and salvational debates that rage between Catholics and Protestants are merely red herrings to the real ambitions of the Papacy...global political control. This has nothing to do with the gospel, even less to do with Christ.
 
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The more powerful enemy can be vanquished only by exerting the utmost effort, and without fail, most thoroughly, carefully, attentively and skilfully using every, even the smallest, ‘rift’ among the enemies, of every antagonism of interest among the bourgeoisie of the various countries and among the various groups or types of bourgeoisie within the various countries, and also by taking advantage of every, even the smallest, opportunity of gaining a mass ally, even though this ally be temporary, vacillating, unstable, unreliable and conditional. Those who fail to
understand this, fail to understand even a particle of Marxism, or of scientific, modern Socialism in general. (Italics in the original)
“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder Lenin.

The above tactic is being implemented by socialist governments the world over, particularly Communist China, but no less that the Vatican especially in recent years in the US.
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the prob imo is that this guy is now openly and pridefully judging another's servant, as if Protestantism does not suffer from the same ills?
Judging *another's servant * would only apply to genuine servants of Christ. And your remark about Protestantism suffering from the same ills indicates that you know very little about the doctrines and practices of Rome. The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop is a good place to start.
 
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I found it interesting re his complaint against the church because then, in the early 20th century, habitually removed offending priests (guilty of adultery and having illicit relationships with young women...it seems his proclivities forbade him from mentioning anything more nasty) from their current parish to somewhere unknown...seems that practice is older than we perhaps realised.
as if Protestantism does not suffer from the same ills?
Why do you call that "church?" Bc the world does? Ok
 

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The more powerful enemy can be vanquished only by
I wish you the best of luck in your fight against the world, ok, but don't imagine or pretend that this is Christian...well, it might be Christian behavior, but certainly not condoned by any Scripture, that I am aware of.
 
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I wish you the best of luck in your fight against the world, ok, but don't imagine or pretend that this is Christian...well, it might be Christian behavior, but certainly not condoned by any Scripture, that I am aware of.
I think you are missing the context. That full post is a quote from V Lenin esq. It is his agenda for infiltrating western government, an approach now being used by China and the Vatican...a typical socialist tactic. Not mine, nor am I advocating it.
 
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:rolleyes:
I mean he isn't even trying to fool us with like "bishop" or "Enoch" or anything? Lol






I mean, how many more clues do you need bl, cmon bro
So you think we ought not to be bothering to expose such evil, nor warn anyone of the dangers? I don't propose it can be deafeated, prophecy is too clear that what must be, will be. But we can certainly pray that if it is God's will, it may be delayed and held back somewhat (there's scriptural precedence for that) to give time for us to further share the truth of the gospel that people be saved. (Revelation 14:6-12)
 

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So you think we ought not to be bothering to expose such evil, nor warn anyone of the dangers?
I think you must end up peering in unless you have a personal testimony of the evil committed upon you by um whoever it is we are talking about. This would be the moment to "testify of yourself" so to speak. So like a diff frame iow
 

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to give time for us to further share the truth of the gospel that people be saved.
I would examine my defs of "share" and "saved" here wadr, as these seem to mostly be defined as "profess" and "immortality" now in our circles?

"Sharing" is imo an act one does, not a spiel they profess?