JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

101G said:

now dave are you saying that JESUS is the Father? for YHWH is the Father, the Great "I AM"

is this is what you're saying? yes or no.

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Jesus said before Abraham "I AM" = YAHWEH before the incarnation. And YAHWEH is a trinity of persons.

101G said:

dave, dave, dave, reframe yourself. remember we're to discuss ... ... (smile)


so no answer?

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State the question please.

Waiting on him said:

Here’s the 101 you may have disclosed all mysteries, and I would like to be able to hear what your saying, but that whole book laying in front of you is dead without love. You speak as if you have received something of yourself. What you say has no power. I want to see that change for the glory of God. Because that comes in power not word!

Please consider what I say

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Ephesians 3:14-19 KJV
[14] For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, [15] Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, [16] That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; [17] That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [18] May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; [19] And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

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No fellowship! Dripp,Dripp,Dripp,Dripp,,,,

101G said:

so you're saying that JESUS is the LORD, the Father correct. for your doctrine states the Father is NOT the Son, but a separate person. so how can a separate show you another person if he's not that person?.

that want work either.

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Here's how it works. God is a trinity of persons in one spiritual essence. He took on human flesh in the incarnation and remains this way, only glorified forever. In the man Jesus Christ, all of God dwells. But Jesus the man speaks both as God and as man in the second person of the trinity, the eternal Son.

Waiting on him said:

Ephesians 3:14-19 KJV
[14] For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, [15] Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, [16] That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; [17] That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [18] May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; [19] And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

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Does this last verse make you God?

101G said:

but dave you still missed the point in Isaiah 44:24 this is ONE PERSON who made all things. and in John 1:3 this is ONE PERSON who made all things.

THIS IS MY POINT is this the same person yes or no?

just answer yes or no. and we will be done.

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One God, not one person.

101G said:

first thanks for the reply, second, the same apostle you quoted, now I, listen, Titus 1:9 "Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Titus 1:10 "For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Titus 1:11 "Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Titus 1:12 "One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Titus 1:13 "This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Titus 1:14 "Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
Titus 1:15 "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Titus 1:16 "They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

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I’m provoking to love. Your promoting 101s knowledge. Dripp,Dripp,,, his love surpasses knowledge

101G said:

again I say no, but, Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Ephesians 4:12 "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Ephesians 4:13 "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
READ THAT AGAIN.

Ephesians 4:14 "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Ephesians 4:15 "But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ".

now to end this and get back on the subject, I know what you want TO HEAR, AND HERE IT IS, 1 Corinthians 9:22 "To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some".

now understand that verse and you will understand me.

Now back to the subject at hand,

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How does all that translate into your unintelligent????

101G said:

so I can also take this as you cannot answer the question also......

just stick to try in answer the question.

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He’s the Christ the son of God

101G said:

you did not say is that's the same person or not. stop evading and be straight up and answer directly. I say it's the same "ONE" person, do you agree or not.

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John 1:ff answers this for us.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. All things were created through Him, and apart from Him not one thing was created that has been created. Life was in Him, and that life was the light of men. That light shines in the darkness, yet the darkness did not overcome it.” (John 1:1–5) (HCSB)

“He was in the world, and the world was created through Him, yet the world did not recognize Him. He came to His own, and His own people did not receive Him. But to all who did receive Him, He gave them the right to be children of God, to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood, or of the will of the flesh, or of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:10–13) (HCSB)

“The Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We observed His glory, the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.” (John 1:14) (HCSB)

“(John testified concerning Him and exclaimed, “This was the One of whom I said, ‘The One coming after me has surpassed me, because He existed before me.’ ”) Indeed, we have all received grace after grace from His fullness, for the law was given through Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God. The One and Only Son — the One who is at the Father’s side — He has revealed Him.” (John 1:15–18) (HCSB)

101G said:

again I say no, but, Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Ephesians 4:12 "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Ephesians 4:13 "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
READ THAT AGAIN.

Ephesians 4:14 "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Ephesians 4:15 "But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ".

now to end this and get back on the subject, I know what you want TO HEAR, AND HERE IT IS, 1 Corinthians 9:22 "To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some".

now understand that verse and you will understand me.

Now back to the subject at hand,

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So how can the Spirit dwell in me,and I’m not God?

101G said:

see Waiting on him you did not read my post #217 if you did you would know what it means Son "OF" God

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Everything you speak is dull,void