Abomination of Desolation

I agree Denver whether you see this as desolation (by the harlot religion of antichrist) or deslator it changes nothing if one chooses to believe Satan is Antichrist as we are told in scripture and Ireneus hearning from the Bishop of the church of Smyrna (one of 2 churches God approved)Or if you believe he is some man The amobination of desolation is as Daniel describes Antichrist standing where he(it) ought Not in the holy of holies declaring himself to be god this is a future event not past.

You may find this 1599 comentary on 2 Thess. interesting in shedding light of this Abomination od Desolation.................................Notes on Second ThessaloniansFrom the Original 1599 Geneva Bible Notes2Th 2:22:2 {2} That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by {b} spirit, nor by {c} word, nor by {d} letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.(2) We must take heed of false prophets, especially in this matter, who go about to deceive, and that for the most part, after three sorts: for either they brag of fake prophetical revelations, or they bring conjectures and reasons of their own, or use counterfeit writings.(

By dreams and fables, which men pretend to be spiritual revelations.© Either by word of mouth, or by written books.(d) Either by forged letter, or falsely commented upon. 2Th 2:32:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: {3} for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and {e} that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;(3) The apostle foretells that before the coming of the Lord, there will be a throne set up completely contrary to Christ's glory, in which that wicked man will sit, and transfer all things that appertain to God to himself: and many will fall away from God to him.(e) By speaking of one, he singles out the person of the tyrannous and persecuting antichrist. 2Th 2:42:4 Who opposeth and {f} exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; {4} so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.(f) All men know who he is that says he can shut up heaven and open it at his pleasure, and takes upon himself to be lord and master above all kings and princes, before whom kings and princes fall down and worship, honouring that antichrist as a god.(4) He foretells that the antichrist (that is, whoever he is that will occupy that seat that falls away from God) will not reign outside of the Church, but in the very bosom of the Church. 2Th 2:82:8 {8} And then shall {i} that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall {k} consume with the {l} spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming8) That wickedness will at length be detected by the word of the Lord, and will utterly be abolished by Christ's coming.(i) Literally, "that lawless fellow", that is to say, he that will completely tread upon God's law.(k) Bring to nothing.(l) With his word, for the true ministers of the word are as a mouth, by which the Lord breathes out that mighty and everlasting word, which will break his enemies apart, as though the word were an iron rod. 2Th 2:92:9 {9} [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and {m} lying wonders,(9) He foretells that Satan will bestow all his might and power, and use all false miracles that he can to establish that seat, and that with great success, because the wickedness of the world does so deserve it: yet in such a way that only the unfaithful will perish through his deceit.(m) Which are partly false, and partly done to establish a falsehood. 2Th 2:112:11 And for this cause God shall send them {n} strong delusion, that they should believe a lien) A most mighty working to deceive them. 2Th 2:122:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but {o} had pleasure in unrighteousness.(o) They liked lies so much that they had pleasure in them, which is the greatest madness that may exist. 2Th 2:132:13 {10} But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through {p} sanctification of the Spirit and {q} belief of the truth10) The elect will stand steadfast and safe from all these mischiefs. Now election is known by these testimonies: faith is increased by sanctification: faith, by that which we grant to the truth; truth, by calling, through the preaching of the Gospel: from where we come at length to a certain hope of glorification.(p) To sanctify you.(q) Faith which does not lay hold upon lies, but upon the truth of God, which is the Gospel.

(Denver;52626)
As far as the feminine playing into everything here, I think the obvious yet subtle link is with the harlot of Revelation which rides on the beast. All of this is intertwined and this is why I personally don't like to get caught up in the squabble over desolation or desolater because it's a noun either way.
In Greek perhaps. However that which you referenced in Hebrew is a/are verb(s).(Denver)
Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Eremon: Adjective.(Denver)
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.Maketh (H. shamem) is a curious word for me here:http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon...gs=H08074&t=kjvThe "abomination that maketh desolate" hints, at least to me, of a person. A person, as an object, can be a noun.
And yet, even according to the link you provided above shamem [shomem as it occurs in Dan 12:11] is a verb.The hebrew here is 've-latet shiqutz shomem'. As in Daniel 9 which you had alluded unto previously, it is the binyan Polel.(Denver)
Set seems to confirm this rather well for me, for we all know who controls everything in the end: http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon...gs=H05414&t=kjv
And yet, you refer to yet another verb.Perhaps I should transliterate Daniel 12:11 here for youaniel 12:11 u-me`et hosar ha-tamid ve-latet shiqutz shomem yamim 'eleph ma'taim ve-tish`im.Since "set" seems to confirm this rather well for you: Would you please identify H5414 in the above?(Denver)
Daniel 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
In the above, you underlined "his" in the phrase "and his power". The Hebrew is kokho and ve-kokho respectively. I will transliterate the verse here for youaniel 8:24 ve-`atzam kokho ve-lo' ve-kokho ve-niphla'ot yashkhit ve-hitzlikh ve-`asah ve-hishkhit `atzomim ve-`am_qedoshim:Kokh-o: The '-o' is the possessive pronoun suffix for "his" which you underlined. You also underlined "but not by his own power" which is 've-lo' ve-kokho' or 'and not in his strength/might/power'. Again, the possessive prounoun suffix.(Denver)
The abomination that is setup is a he.
It is not the "abomination" which is a "he" in the above. If that where the case, it would be 'shiqutzo' or more properly in this case 'shiqutzayv'.The context of Daniel 8 places this as occurring following the kings of Media and Persia, following Greece and it's breakup into four lesser kingdoms. The one spoken of here in Daniel 8 is the 'little horn' spoken of in Daniel 8:9 which clearly points to none other than Antiochus Epiphanes whom circa 167 BCE upon the 15th day of the 9th month [Khishlev] erected a desolating sacrilege upon the altar of burnt offerings. The burned the scrolls of the Law and condemned to death anyone possessing or adhering to the Law [cf Josephus Ant. 12.5.4; 13.8.2; Wars 1.1.1]This same Antiochus Epiphanes was afflicted with an incurable and invisible blow. Struck in his bowels, his body swarmed with worms. Thus, as we read in Daniel 8:25, he was broken without hand.(Denver)
Daniel 8:11-13 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
Here again, I would suggest becoming familiar with the actions of Antiochus Epiphanes.

(kriss;52641)
I agree Denver whether you see this as desolation (by the harlot religion of antichrist) or deslator it changes nothing if one chooses to believe Satan is Antichrist as we are told in scripture and Ireneus hearning from the Bishop of the church of Smyrna (one of 2 churches God approved)Or if you believe he is some man The amobination of desolation is as Daniel describes Antichrist standing where he(it) ought Not in the holy of holies declaring himself to be god this is a future event not past.
Not unlike what Antiochus Epiphanes once did. Not unlike that which was done in 70 CE and again under Hadrian.

(kriss;52691)
2Th 2:8 And then shall {i} that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall {k} consume with the {l} spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming8) That wickedness will at length be detected by the word of the Lord, and will utterly be abolished by Christ's coming.(i) Literally, "that lawless fellow", that is to say, he that will completely tread upon God's law.(k) Bring to nothing.
Sad to say, not unlike what most of mainstream christianity has done / is doing.

(Richard_oti;52700)
Sad to say, not unlike what most of mainstream christianity has done / is doing.
I do not understand your statement in fact mainstream does exactly the oppisite and teaches it is past or that he (antichrist) is a human being It is God Word that teaches other wise and it was taught otherwise in Smyrna and history at the time. It was not until the church corupted the teaching it became otherwise.This is not past. It is future.

(Kriss;52704)
(Richard_oti;52700)
Sad to say, not unlike what most of mainstream christianity has done / is doing.
I do not understand your statement in fact mainstream does exactly the oppisite and teaches it is past or that he (antichrist) is a human beingIt is God Word that teaches other wise and it was taught otherwise in Smyrna and history at the time. It was not until the church corupted the teaching it became otherwise.This is not past. It is future.I agree with Kriss. Who has a power to make everyone believe that the AntiChrist is god? Can a human has that power? No. Does Satan, the fallen angel does? Yes.

(kriss;52704)
I do not understand your statement in fact mainstream does exactly the opposite
It was in reference to "Literally, 'that lawless fellow', that is to say, he that will completely tread upon God's law.(k) Bring to nothing"It is sad that so many do. That is: Tread upon His Law, bring it to nothing.

(Richard_oti;52721)
It was in reference to "Literally, 'that lawless fellow', that is to say, he that will completely tread upon God's law.(k) Bring to nothing"It is sad that so many do. That is: Tread upon His Law, bring it to nothing.
OK I can be a little slow

(kriss;52734)
OK I can be a little slow
No problem. Wait till you see some of the doozies that I am capable of making