I don't want to be a "vessel of wrath"....

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I don't really know how I can express my feelings on here. But to be honest, both before you guys and God himself, when it comes to our salvation and relationship with God, I really don't know who God is. For some reason, in the gospels, when Jesus was here, I see our God as a welcoming and easy-to-reach God. And in James, I see a God who is right here for me, waiting for me to draw myself to him. But in the book of Romans, I see an exclusive God...and I feel very far away from him.... I feel like he doesn't want me at all. I mean, doesn't the book of Romans say that God made us a certain way and he can do what he pleases with us, even if it means hardening our hearts?I almost feel like giving up my whole life because I feel like it is meaningless....well, maybe it does have a meaning, but a meaning full of wrath... I don't want to be a vessel of wrath. I'm trying to get to know more about God. Am I seeing the wrong God here? If I am, who truly is the God of salvation?Thanks for taking your time to read this
 

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I don't really know how I can express my feelings on here. But to be honest, both before you guys and God himself, when it comes to our salvation and relationship with God, I really don't know who God is. For some reason, in the gospels, when Jesus was here, I see our God as a welcoming and easy-to-reach God. And in James, I see a God who is right here for me, waiting for me to draw myself to him. But in the book of Romans, I see an exclusive God...and I feel very far away from him.... I feel like he doesn't want me at all. I mean, doesn't the book of Romans say that God made us a certain way and he can do what he pleases with us, even if it means hardening our hearts?I almost feel like giving up my whole life because I feel like it is meaningless....well, maybe it does have a meaning, but a meaning full of wrath... I don't want to be a vessel of wrath. I'm trying to get to know more about God. Am I seeing the wrong God here? If I am, who truly is the God of salvation?Thanks for taking your time to read this
Oh no...My dear brother Sola_ScripturaPlease don't give up... God is obviously a God of Love (I John 4:16)... people thinks God is different than us (besides always telling the Truth) God has emotions just like us. God does justice just like us humans. Why do parents punish their children... because they disobey the parents.God loves you and welcome with open arms. God hates the sin. (Psalm 97:10, Proverbs 8:13) I love God, but the more Truth you know, you should be able the emotions that God has...I just can't deny Him to able to see the emotions that He has and the reason He has.The only person that wants us all dead is Satan himself.Please don't give up...
 

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I don't really know how I can express my feelings on here. But to be honest, both before you guys and God himself, when it comes to our salvation and relationship with God, I really don't know who God is. For some reason, in the gospels, when Jesus was here, I see our God as a welcoming and easy-to-reach God. And in James, I see a God who is right here for me, waiting for me to draw myself to him. But in the book of Romans, I see an exclusive God...and I feel very far away from him.... I feel like he doesn't want me at all. I mean, doesn't the book of Romans say that God made us a certain way and he can do what he pleases with us, even if it means hardening our hearts?I almost feel like giving up my whole life because I feel like it is meaningless....well, maybe it does have a meaning, but a meaning full of wrath... I don't want to be a vessel of wrath. I'm trying to get to know more about God. Am I seeing the wrong God here? If I am, who truly is the God of salvation?Thanks for taking your time to read this
I pray that we would all understand how truly little God requires of us.Think about it... how difficult is it to have a relationship with someone when they require so much of you... When they expect you to be flawless in your work, or when they are holding things against you? It is impossible to have a relationship with someone when they are cracking the whip, driving you like a slave, and merely shouting orders down at us from on high. It is impossible to have a relationship with someone who (and I say this reverantly), doesn't consider you equal with them. Jesus prayed that we would be ONE just as Him and His Father are ONE.God came to Earth to demonstrate, this is His heart... to be one with us. He came down low, became flesh, and died for us. Can't we see what He is trying to do!? Can't we see what He is trying to say!? "I want to be with you!" His burder is light... His yoke is easy. He doesn't thunder commands at us, or crack a whip... no, He compares himself to an ox who walks long side you and shares your yoke!That is the God we serve... a compassionate God who is fully capable to execute justice, and will execute justice on the wicked (those who don't, in faith, believe Him) but longs to be known and share in a relationship with us.Jesus has done the work for us, and He requires very little of us just for the very reason that we could have a relationship with Him. Indeed, it is very hard to have a relatinoship with someone who towers over you, and thunders commands over you...But Jesus came, He compared Himself to an ox who is yoked together with us, and he died for us. This is the lengths that God has gone, will go, and does go to be with us.
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I really appreciate your concerns for me, treeoflife and superjag. I love the comfort of my brothers and sisters in Christ. But I'm just afraid that I've hurt God so much to the point that he made me a "vessel of wrath" described in the book of Romans....
 

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I really appreciate your concerns for me, treeoflife and superjag. I love the comfort of my brothers and sisters in Christ. But I'm just afraid that I've hurt God so much to the point that he made me a "vessel of wrath" described in the book of Romans....
Your heart that wishes not to grieve our Father... it is good. I do not believe you are a "vessel of wrath." Give the Lord time. He will convince you of His undying love. Just give Him time (and have faith)
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. He means you good, and not evil. He has done all the work for you.
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I really appreciate your concerns for me, treeoflife and superjag. I love the comfort of my brothers and sisters in Christ. But I'm just afraid that I've hurt God so much to the point that he made me a "vessel of wrath" described in the book of Romans....
Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;I John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.Wake up, and realize the fact. None of us deserves it, but He loves us that He gave His only begotten Son to die on a cross for us. (John 3:16)We all hurt God many times. Some more than others... but do you think God would not love you if you repent of your sins? Do you think though He fogives your sin...You think he will keep on bring up your sins? God forbid...Please read these scriptures...Hebrews 8:12 - For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.Hebrews 10:17 - And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
 
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Superjag and treeoflife-I would never want to grieve our Father. Even when I do sin, I know that I still care and I want to repent. The problem I have, and want to overcome, is I don't know how to pray. I'm afraid of having doubt in my heart when I pray. I feel like I can't control my doubt. I love God and want to have my complete trust in him. But I recognize that Jesus came to reveal the Father. When I read about Jesus, I feel very close to the Father. When I read about him in his word, he doesn't seem far away at all. I wish I could always remember that he is a faithful Father and that he will always forgive me if I truly repent.
 

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I also have doubts and thoughts that I shouldn't have when praying at times. I ask Jesus to block all negative thoughts and it does help. Prayer is a quiet moment with God and I do believe it is another one of satan's time to interfere. Keep praying, I know that our doubts will vanish with time.
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