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Dave L
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God gives us a new heart that loves him. Otherwise we only love our idols bearing his name.Saved with or without consent?
Without consent is to be a being FAR worse than any mortal rapist or mass murder.
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God gives us a new heart that loves him. Otherwise we only love our idols bearing his name.Saved with or without consent?
Without consent is to be a being FAR worse than any mortal rapist or mass murder.
Please actually answer the question:God gives us a new heart that loves him. Otherwise we only love our idols bearing his name.
No, if you are insane, and someone heals you, are they worse than a mass murderer for healing you?Please actually answer the question:
Saved with or without consent?
Without consent is to be a being FAR worse than any mortal rapist or mass murder.
You cannot choose to not believe if you are really saved. You won't ever want to be apart from God.you say""You believe because God saved you. He did not save you because you believe"". Really?? So if I CHOOSE TO NOT BELIEVE AM I STILL SAVED??? THINK!
Somebody who forces someone to believe something is a brainwasher.No, if you are insane, and someone heals you, are they worse than a mass murderer for healing you?
All we can do is asked for salvation and repent. Anything else works.
David L pushes Calvinism, denying any free will confession on our part having any value.
Nonsense! This is John 3:16! This is the Gospel! This is the God of love.
It is not the god of Calvinism. It is not about a villain whom creates people just to doom them. Whom forces himself on others more than any mortal rapiest or brainwasher could.
No, Calvin misunderstood these verses and preached that incorrect understanding.Calvin did not write the verses in the Bible that speak of election and predestination.
No, Calvin misunderstood these verses and preached that incorrect understanding.
A man must believe in Christ. This is a choice, that God offers to all men, because He loves all men. Calvin, with all due respect, lost sight of that love.
No, Calvin misunderstood these verses and preached that incorrect understanding.
A man must believe in Christ. This is a choice, that God offers to all men, because He loves all men. Calvin, with all due respect, lost sight of that love.
God *offers* His gift of salvation to every individual. Each individual has the choice whether or not to accept it. It's their choice. God never forces anything. Those that accept and believe shall be saved. Those that reject shall not be.So you do believe in election and predestination then?
With all due respect, I find this verse to have a very different meaning.There is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one." Romans 3:11,12. This includes you and I as well as all mankind.
God predestined
This word means to appoint before hand very similar to making an appointment or a reservation; arranging in advance for something to happen at a certain time. When God looked down through time to see us making our decision to be saved, He made an appointment for us to be conformed to the image of His son.
Bible says, Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.” (Matt. 7:7-8)
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” (John 3:16)
“For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.” (John 6:40)
“Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” (Romans 10:13)
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God *offers* His gift of salvation to every individual. Each individual has the choice whether or not to accept it. It's their choice. God never forces anything. Those that accept and believe shall be saved. Those that reject shall not be.
Now, God does know everything in advance-- He know's what choice each person will make, He knows how this goes down. But He still lets each person have their choice, and we each must make it.
God *offers* His gift of salvation to every individual. Each individual has the choice whether or not to accept it. It's their choice. God never forces anything. Those that accept and believe shall be saved. Those that reject shall not be.
Now, God does know everything in advance-- He know's what choice each person will make, He knows how this goes down. But He still lets each person have their choice, and we each must make it.
With all due respect, I find this verse to have a very different meaning.
Because that person choose the listen to God the Holy Spirit testifying to them.Why would a child of the devil choose to submit to Christ