What does the book of Acts reveal about the Sabbath Day?

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Jackie D

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We do not agree. For Jesus came and fulilled all the law. Then He nailed it to the cross.. So therefore there is no more law for us as His bride to fulfill for He has already fulilled it. Because Paul even says if you put yourself under one of the Laws you are under the Whole law.. Jesus fulfilled all of the Law. Not just part or some but all. This is why our righteousness is now in Him and not in our works.
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One statement.... you can’t nail stone to the cross... And if the ten commandments then there is no SIN... and if there is no SIN I and kill you in love or sleep with anyone’s wife because I think I am good at that kind of thing and I want to do it in love for all women in this world!...I know its foolish, what I said above but if you insist that the ten commandments are nailed to the cross that’s what anyone can do and be saved... Below are some verses1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. As Paul said "the strength of sin is the law"Now if there is no law!! Sin has no strength!
 

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The 10 are of the Old covenant. The new covenant is not a mix of old plus new. The New is His blood shed for us. Even the children of the OC could not live to the standards of the 10. Paul calls the law the minister of death. For the Law is there to bring death but the new is to bring life. The letter of the Law Killeth but the Spirit giveth Life.
 

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In a believers life we don't have to have the sting of sin. For the law to the believer is the minister of Death. We now have the conviction of Gods Spirit within us to convict us of sin.
 

Jackie D

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In a believers life we don't have to have the sting of sin.
sure we do, we still suffer the consequence of our sins. Each and every one. That is why we are told we are refined by fire, fire burns the dross of our lawlessness. We are promised that we will not perish by the second death, we are not promised that we won't suffer the effects of our disobedience while in our earthly bodies, regardless of the fact that atonement has been made for us...In a believers life we understand that sin still has an effect on us. And yet we are forgiven and saved from death that sin causes through the Blood of the Lamb. That doesn't mean that we don't have to put into practice those things that have belonged to the Word since before the beginning of time. (GmamaZ;52354)
For the law to the believer is the minister of Death. We now have the conviction of Gods Spirit within us to convict us of sin.
and what is conviction? doesn't conviction hurt at times? Can we not agree that when we are convicted it is because we have broken something within the Laws of God? Those do's and don't that are still very much alive and well today? In court what does convicted mean? It means we are found guilty of breaking the law.....
 

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But we as Christians are not told to remember the sabbath.. For this was for the Old covenant with the circumcized to which us as gentiles never were. We have entered into the Holy Sabbath through the blood if Christ therefore resting from all of our works for Now it is Christ in us the Hope of Glory and not the keeping of any of the laws.
Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works, as God did from his. 11 Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, that no man fall after the same example of disobedience.
 

Richard_oti

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I never said it was abolished..I said it was fulfilled.
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The dead will be judged by the law since they have not believed in Christ for God is a just God.
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The law still does what it has always done. It shows us that we are in need of a savior because we cannot live according to the Law. No man can.
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Only Christ could.
Romans 3:31 Do we then nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law. 1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.1 John 5:3 This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensomeDeuteronomy 30:11 Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach.
 

Richard_oti

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Sabbath means Rest Sabbath=Rest
And shabat shabaton means?(kriss)
Hebrews 4:9 "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God."Hebrews 4:10 "For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His."
sabbatismos... as God did from His"
 

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The apostles met and discussed the issue in the Jerusalem council (Acts chapter 15). The decision was, “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood” (Acts 15:19-20).
Yet, if we read one verse further:Acts 15:21 For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.IMO: Since they were preaching every week in the synagogues, and the gentiles hungry for the Word of God would be coming to hear the Word of God each week. It is a fairly safe assumption from my POV that the gentiles would learn more as time went by and they listening to the Word of God.(kriss)
Sabbath-keeping was not one of the commands the apostles felt was necessary to enforce on Gentile believers. It is inconceivable that the apostles would neglect to include Sabbath-keeping if it was still God’s command for Christians to observe the Sabbath day.
Yet, shabat was very commonly known in those days.(kriss)
A common error in the Sabbath-keeping debate is the concept that the Sabbath was the day of worship. Groups such as the Seventh Day Adventists holds that God requires the church service to be held on Saturday, the Sabbath day. That is not what the Sabbath command was. The Sabbath command was to do no work on the Sabbath day (Exodus 20:8-11). Nowhere in Scripture is the Sabbath day commanded to be the day of worship.
Yet in Leviticus 23, shabat is described in these terms:Lev. 23:3 The weekly shabat: shabat shabaton; miqra'_qodeshMiqra'_qodesh is a sacred/holy assembly. Even our beloved Messiah was to be found in His Father's house. So to say that nowhere in the Scriptures shabat was not to be a day of worship... well, it was and is a day of sacred or holy assembly. Some would define that as worship.(kriss)
Yes, Jews in Old Testament, New Testament, and modern times use Saturday as the day of worship, but that is not the essence of the Sabbath command. In the Book of Acts, whenever a meeting is said to be on the Sabbath, it is a meeting of Jews, not Christians.When did the early Christians meet? Acts 2:46-47 gives us the answer, “Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts.
Yet Acts 14:1 reveals that both Ioudaion/Jews and Greeks/Hellenon [Ethnon/Gentiles according to some translations and verse 2] believed when Paul and Barnabas spoke in the synagogue.
 

Richard_oti

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The commandments are a part of the ordiences.. They were all given to Moses.
What are the two greatest commands and where are they written?Do they apply to us today?When the pharisees were being chastised in Matthew 23 they were told that they neglected the weightier matters of the law, justice, mercy and faith. Yet, our beloved Messiah did not stop there, he went on to say: You should have practiced the latter without neglecting the former.When the lawyer stood up and asked to inherit eternal life 'Jesus' asked him: "What is written in the Law and how do you read it?"The lawyer answered with the two greatest commands to which 'Jesus' replied: "You have answered correctly, do this and you shall live."GmamaZ, if you saw your wonderful neighbors declawed house cat out in the street, would you pick it up and return it to your neighbor so that no harm would befall it?If you saw the declawed house cat of a neighbor you disliked, would you pick up his cat and return it to him?If you answer yes to both or either of the above, then you have fulfilled Deuteronomy 22:1-4 and/or Exodus 23:4. You have shown that you are living according to and under the new covenant. As Paul puts it:Romans 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15 since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)Jeremiah 31:33 This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the LORD. I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
 

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Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works, as God did from his. 11 Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, that no man fall after the same example of disobedience.
Exo 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that profaneth it shall surely be put to death; for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, holy to Jehovah: whosoever doeth any work on the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.being Israel, we are bound to this perpetual convenant.
 

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being Israel, we are bound to this perpetual convenant.
Exodus 19:6 and ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a elect race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that ye may show forth the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 10 who in time past were no people, but now are the people of God: who had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that once ye, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called Circumcision, in the flesh, made by hands; 12 that ye were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world._____________________________________________________________Exodus 12:49 One law shall be to him that is home-born, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. Leviticus 16:29 And it shall be a statute for ever unto you: in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and shall do no manner of work, the home-born, or the stranger that sojourneth among you: Leviticus 24:22 Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the sojourner, as for the home-born: for I am YHVH your God. Numbers 9:14 And if a stranger shall sojourn among you, and will keep the passover unto Jehovah; according to the statute of the passover, and according to the ordinance thereof, so shall he do: ye shall have one statute, both for the sojourner, and for him that is born in the land. Numbers 15:14 And if a stranger sojourn with you, or whosoever may be among you throughout your generations, and will offer an offering made by fire, of a sweet savor unto Jehovah; as ye do, so he shall do. 15 For the assembly, there shall be one statute for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you, a statute for ever throughout your generations: as ye are, so shall the sojourner be before YHVH. 16 One law and one ordinance shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.