The Five Points of Calvinism

Jane_Doe22 · Feb 5, 2019

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
Real Christians follow the biblical Jesus. He was not lucifers half brother from the planet Kolub.

*sigh*
Not LDS beliefs. If you want to get your facts straight, feel free to PM me.

Anthony D'Arienzo · Feb 5, 2019

Jane_Doe22 said:
*sigh*
Not LDS beliefs. If you want to get your facts straight, feel free to PM me.

No thanks...i am still waiting for you to explain jn 10;26-30, and the other verses offered earlier on. Work on that first.

Waiting on him · Feb 5, 2019

Jane_Doe22 said:
*sigh*
Not LDS beliefs. If you want to get your facts straight, feel free to PM me.

If Nelson reinstated plural marriage would you be okay with it?

CoreIssue · Feb 5, 2019

Waiting on him said:
So, why do you think Christ refers to himself as the Amen? I forgot to cap the A last time lol.

I repeat, that is John speaking, not Christ. He says these are the words of the Amen, not Christ calling himself the Amen.

To the Church in Laodicea
14 “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation.

CoreIssue · Feb 5, 2019

Waiting on him said:
I must have not read the part where the churches in the epistles of revelation addressed anything. I thought Christ was grading them?

Trying to be funny? What is said to the churches totally rejects Calvinism.

VictoryinJesus · Feb 5, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
Thanks for quoting me..it helped me see that I had quoted it backward!!
John 14:6 ( the correct quote:- )
6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. "

Didn’t notice. Maybe I’m the one who quoted it backward. I’ve forgot the question now and why I posted. Hope you are feeling better, ByGrace.

Enoch111 · Feb 5, 2019

Waiting on him said:
That’s Christ saying he is the Amen.
Revelation 3:14 KJV
[14] And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God

This is correct, and Christ does call Himself "the Amen".

Amen means truly, surely, most assuredly, verily, of a truth. Christ is most assuredly the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

Waiting on him · Feb 6, 2019

Enoch111 said:
This is correct, and Christ does call Himself "the Amen".

Amen means truly, surely, most assuredly, verily, of a truth. Christ is most assuredly the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

I thout this related well with the verse @farouk quoted John 6:37

Dave L · Feb 6, 2019

CoreIssue said:
Then you do not know what I believe in since I reject salvation by works. Repentance is not a work, it is a request.

Works = meeting conditions to activate your salvation.

rockytopva · Feb 6, 2019

Christ's input on the subject, especially as this came out of the Sardisean church age....

Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. - Revelation 3:4-5

A few names in Sardis... Not Martin Luther or John Calvin, who defiled their garments by having people tortured and killed in the name of a doctrine.

rockytopva · Feb 6, 2019

rockytopva said:
Christ's input on the subject, especially as this came out of the Sardisean church age....

Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. - Revelation 3:4-5

A few names in Sardis... Not Martin Luther or John Calvin, who defiled their garments by having people tortured and killed in the name of a doctrine.

"He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life...." which also is input on the points... It is our duty to keep our garments clean and to win this race.

Dave L · Feb 6, 2019

rockytopva said:
Christ's input on the subject, especially as this came out of the Sardisean church age....

Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. - Revelation 3:4-5

A few names in Sardis... Not Martin Luther or John Calvin, who defiled their garments by having people tortured and killed in the name of a doctrine.

Luther and Calvin only preached what Augustine preached.

Dave L · Feb 6, 2019

rockytopva said:
"He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life...." which also is input on the points... It is our duty to keep our garments clean and to win this race.

Only Christ can do this for us.

Waiting on him · Feb 6, 2019

Dave L said:
Only Christ can do this for us.

Judaizers preach salvation through works.

farouk · Feb 6, 2019

Waiting on him said:
I thout this related well with the verse @farouk quoted John 6:37

John 6.37 is indeed very searching, right?

farouk · Feb 6, 2019

Waiting on him said:
If Nelson reinstated plural marriage would you be okay with it?

Waiting on him · Feb 6, 2019

farouk said:

Never got an answer?

farouk · Feb 6, 2019

Waiting on him said:
Never got an answer?

Well, maybe some questions are understood as rhetorical...

farouk · Feb 6, 2019

Waiting on him said:
Judaizers preach salvation through works.

In a subtle or not so subtle way, those who preach going back to the old system are introducing faith supposedly PLUS religious observance.

CoreIssue · Feb 6, 2019

Dave L said:
Works = meeting conditions to activate your salvation.

Strong's Number: 2041

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Original Word Word Origin
e[rgon from a primary (but obsolete) ergo (to work)
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Ergon 2:635,251
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er'-gon Noun Neuter
Definition

business, employment, that which any one is occupied
1. that which one undertakes to do, enterprise, undertaking
any product whatever, any thing accomplished by hand, art, industry, or mind
an act, deed, thing done: the idea of working is emphasised in opp. to that which is less than work

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