Enoch111,
[And the context makes it crystal clear that at that time Christ was praying for His disciples and His saints.]
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
Jesus identifies who He has given eternal life to;
that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
[No one would conclude that He was excluding the world from salvation.]
two groups are identified;in verse2
1] all flesh [including all the unsaved world.]
2]as many as thou hast given Him [the elect]
[because you hold to a distorted Gospel. And yes every false Gospel ultimately comes from Satan, since every lie comes from Satan.]
I do not think you can articulate what the gospel actually is, but you do seem obsessed with satan.
Not only that but your posts suggest that All the Puritans, reformers, Spurgeon, John Murray, Edwards, Matthew Henry, etc are all hoodwinked by satan, while you ENOCH111 has it right
[And before He destroyed the ungodly He gave them 120 years to repent. Which again proves that your doctrine is false.]
This post shows your hatred and ignorance of scripture which happens to give Divine commentary on this very section of scripture to expose false ideas as you express here,;The long suffering of God leads to salvation of the elect, both at the Exodus, and the flood
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22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
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5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
[You choose to persist in your error even though the whole context from verse 14 shows that God has given His only begotten Son to be the Savior of the world,]
You mean the Potential Savior of the world, as you do not believe in an actual salvation.
You are suggesting Jesus tries to save the whole world but fails.
I believe scripture clearly says He dies for the elect sheep and he actually saves each and every one whom he intended to save
[and Scripture makes it crystal clear that Christ is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world.]
Did you notice the sins of...are in italics...that means it is not in the text.Furthermore you have no clue what the word propitiation means. At the White throne judgment the wrath of God is not going to be turned away from the unsaved.
[And when you do that you misrepresent the character of God and Christ and distort the Gospel.]
You think so, however it is you who suggest a God who has done all he can, but cannot save people, they must save themselves in your scheme
[But this is typical of Calvinists who would rather die fighting for their false Gospel than admit it is all a lie and repent.]
You cannot make a biblical argument so you attack the person...very lame.
[Just goes to show that no matter how many Scriptures are clearly presented, people who have believed false teachings will never give them up.]
Looks like you have diagnosed yourself here
Amen brother.... Amen.
