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mjrhealth

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if you think God is going to forever put up with a rebellious heart who worships in VAIN, then you know nothing about God.
Yes glad you are well aware of it, Thanks for letting us know. Know you are without excuse.
 

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Yes glad you are well aware of it, Thanks for letting us know. Know you are without excuse.
Only those who willfully disobey the commandment of the Lord will be searching for excuses on Judgement Day like a crackhead desperately searching on hand and knee for what he knows is not there, but in vain hoping to find something anyway.
 

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Only those who willfully disobey the commandment of the Lord will be searching for excuses on Judgement Day like a crackhead desperately searching on hand and knee for what he knows is not there, but in vain hoping to find something anyway.
You missed it all, only those who have faith In Christ will be saved, Wont find any law keepers in Heaven Except Israel but they are special to God..
 

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You missed it all, only those who have faith In Christ will be saved, Wont find any law keepers in Heaven Except Israel but they are special to God..
......and just like that, you've managed to top every other asinine statement you've previously made. "No law keepers in heaven except Israel"? So, do you plan on erecting an venerating statue of Lucifer next to God's throne to avoid keeping "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image/bow down to it"???
 

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.....and just like that, you've managed to top every other asinine statement you've previously made. "No law keepers in heaven except Israel"? So, do you plan on erecting an venerating statue of Lucifer next to God's throne to avoid keeping "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image/bow down to it"???

I'm seriously considering blocking you in order to not lest I be like unto you and your folly.
Go right ahead, wont be the first time.
 

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The man was teaching false anti Christian doctrine.
He wants to turn us over to s atan.
I do not agree with your assessment but you are welcome to it.
Maybe send him a Valentine candy, and then he might suggest the trinity is a lie, and dumb.
It might wait to send you to Satan because you sent him the candy.
I have no Christian friends who deny the trinity or the verses offered.
For you to suggest he is a Christian is foolish.
What's "antichrist" about his doctrine?
 

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Ermmmmm...

You deny the Trinity.
If the version of "trinity" resembles Roman catholicism, which denies that the Godhead is three separate and distinct persons, then it is deny worthy.
You hold to sinless perfection.
Cannot we do all things through Christ which strengthens us to resist temptation? Therefore, if we fall, it is because we chose to do so, not because we are incapable of resisting it through Christ's power.
You believe in soul sleep.
Since the soul only exists as a consequence of the union of the body and the breath of life (Genesis 2:7), when God calls back His Spirit and the body returns to the dust, what else happens to the soul except that it "sleeps the sleep of death"? (Psalms 13:3)
You are shortly to be anointed and perform signs and miracles. Bruh...whatever youse are smokin’, put it down.
Yes, find his dealer, arrest him, and cut off his supply LOL
 

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The truth of the matter is you are blind to the fact that the OP is presenting another gospel and what are we to do with those who present another gospel, hmm? St. Paul talks about the OP:
The Eucharist is as equally objectionable as any other false doctrine. Why do Episcopalians not just let go of that relic of papal Antichrist heresy which cannot be supported by any other method than twisting what Jesus spoke in symbolism in John 6 as literal?

We've even had our comic relief friend Dead Bread insist that the "first Eucharist" was officiated by Jesus when He was in Emmaus. Talk about first rate creative theology LOL
 

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Go right ahead, wont be the first time.
Yes, you'd think I'd learn my lesson, MJH, but I give you a chance and you come back with such ridiculous ideas like the saints in heaven won't be keeping God's commandments.

You can't hold a Bible if your hands are always raised up to the ceiling in "charismatic ecstasy", which is a demonic counterfeit of the genuine Spirit of God.

Now, please open your Bible and read in the Psalms where it says the angels in heaven "do His commandments" before you make such asinine statements as "only Israel" will do so. Make no mistake, we're ALL going to be obeying God's law - angels, saints, citizens of unfallen worlds, everybody - or we're not going to be there.
 

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Yes, you'd think I'd learn my lesson, MJH, but I give you a chance and you come back with such ridiculous ideas like the saints in heaven won't be keeping God's commandments.

You can't hold a Bible if your hands are always raised up to the ceiling in "charismatic ecstasy", which is a demonic counterfeit of the genuine Spirit of God.

Now, please open your Bible and read in the Psalms where it says the angels in heaven "do His commandments" before you make such asinine statements as "only Israel" will do so. Make no mistake, we're ALL going to be obeying God's law - angels, saints, citizens of unfallen worlds, everybody - or we're not going to be there.

Why would the saint in Heaven need to keep Gods commandments, pray tell me what are they going to do Sin. Are you telling us that the righteousness of Christ is Sin, that the righteousness of God is sin, are you telling us that love is Sin, all the things the law cannot do is what Love has done, and if Grace is insufficient for you, than the works of Christ will never be enough. Because of love we will love, because of love , we will not hate, because of Love will not offend, but than in heaven we will be in the Spirit and not the flesh and it will all be different.

PS I dont worship my bible as some, Christ is my Lord.

Di I forget to mention there are no male nor female is the spirit, so how is one going to commit adultry, how is one going to covet his neighbors goods. In heaven we wont have possessions as we wont need them..
 
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People who don't hate sin now... Who don't love righteousness now... Wont do either in heaven.

Reading through the variety of posts I am amazed at the number of people who condemned the op for being judgemental. Does anyone else see the irony in that?
 
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People who don't hate sin now... Who don't love righteousness now... Wont do either in heaven.

Reading through the variety of posts I am amazed at the number of people who condemned the op for being judgemental. Does anyone else see the irony in that?
Who said anyone loved sin.?? Clutching at straws.
 

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In all seriousness, I will most certainly pray that God changes the heart and mind of the OP. That much zeal could be a powerful tool of God's.
 
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Absolutely. But, since most refuse to recognize the papacy as Antichrist, my opinion means nothing. However, I will share it. The New World Order was prophesied 2,000 years ago:

18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great (religious confederacy of Papacy, Apostate Protestantism, Occult Spiritualism, etc.) is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth (confederacy of political leaders) have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth (confederacy of central banking elite/captains of industry) are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

This is the NWO consisting of the one world government, bank, and religion.

The papacy controls global religion along with the kings of the Earth and the Merchants of the Earth through the various Jesuit controlled Secret Societies which have infiltrated every facet of our lives.

As the papacy's "deadly wound" continues to be healed, she will continue to grow in power and influence, even as the world plunges further into economic instability, social and political decay and unrest, and increased environmental calamities. Secret Societies have been behind the world's major wars and revolutions for the past centuries, because the Hegelian Dialectic of "Thesis vs. Antithesis = Synthesis, the synthesis being whatever NWO "solution" to the problems that were deliberately created in order to gain control over the region, the people, the currency, etc.

Then, some global crisis will sweep over the land. Fake alien invasion, limited nuke war, increased natural disaster frequency and intensity- whatever it may be. The leaders will reason that God is angry with us because we've turned our backs on Him, and the only solution is that we all turn back to Him. Religious laws - chief of which will be "Sunday Sacredness" which is already on the books but not enforced - will be instituted so that our obedience may be acceptable in God's sight and His hand of wrath stayed. The problem is those laws are not "commandments of God" they are "commandments of men" which result in hypocrisy, vain worship, and sin.

As the global masses are conditioned to hate "religious fundamentalism" by the irritating "Islamic fundamentalist" whose attacks are a thorn in the side of civilizations, it will be concluded that the reason God's judgments continue to fall upon the Earth is that the little company of "religious fundamentalist" commandment keepers refuse to join in with the majority. Satan will likely impersonate Christ and lead the nations to denounce the "fundamentalists" as the true reason for God's anger. At first comes the economic boycott against them through the Mark of the Beast, and then finally the Death Decree...at which time the door of probation closes for the world and the last of the final end times events unfold just before Jesus comes in the clouds. If you'd like to understand why there exists those of us who subscribe to such an end time scenario, check out "Total Onslaught" by Prof. Dr. Walter Vieth for a prophecy series like no other.
Total Onslaught
Brakelite first told me about the Papacy.
Absolutely. But, since most refuse to recognize the papacy as Antichrist, my opinion means nothing. However, I will share it. The New World Order was prophesied 2,000 years ago:

18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great (religious confederacy of Papacy, Apostate Protestantism, Occult Spiritualism, etc.) is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth (confederacy of political leaders) have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth (confederacy of central banking elite/captains of industry) are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

This is the NWO consisting of the one world government, bank, and religion.

The papacy controls global religion along with the kings of the Earth and the Merchants of the Earth through the various Jesuit controlled Secret Societies which have infiltrated every facet of our lives.

As the papacy's "deadly wound" continues to be healed, she will continue to grow in power and influence, even as the world plunges further into economic instability, social and political decay and unrest, and increased environmental calamities. Secret Societies have been behind the world's major wars and revolutions for the past centuries, because the Hegelian Dialectic of "Thesis vs. Antithesis = Synthesis, the synthesis being whatever NWO "solution" to the problems that were deliberately created in order to gain control over the region, the people, the currency, etc.

Then, some global crisis will sweep over the land. Fake alien invasion, limited nuke war, increased natural disaster frequency and intensity- whatever it may be. The leaders will reason that God is angry with us because we've turned our backs on Him, and the only solution is that we all turn back to Him. Religious laws - chief of which will be "Sunday Sacredness" which is already on the books but not enforced - will be instituted so that our obedience may be acceptable in God's sight and His hand of wrath stayed. The problem is those laws are not "commandments of God" they are "commandments of men" which result in hypocrisy, vain worship, and sin.

As the global masses are conditioned to hate "extremest religious fundamentalism" by the irritating Islamic fundamentalist whose attacks are a thorn in the side of civilizations, it will be concluded that the reason God's judgments continue to fall upon the Earth is that the little company of "religious fundamentalist" commandment keepers refuse to join in with the majority. Satan will likely impersonate Christ and lead the nations to despise and esteem these "extremest Christian fundamentalists" as the true reason for God's anger and a far greater threat to mankind than ever was fundamentalist Islam.

At first comes the economic boycott against them through the Mark of the Beast, and then finally the Death Decree...at which time the door of probation closes for the world and the last of the final end times events unfold just before Jesus comes in the clouds. If you'd like to understand why there exists those of us who subscribe to such an end time scenario, check out "Total Onslaught" by Prof. Dr. Walter Vieth for a prophecy series like no other.
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Brakelite introduced me to the Papacy being the antichrist and it made sense when I read the verse from Revelations 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

That verse you gave makes sense, and the interpretation. God just recently opened that up to me. Since you have been shown it, do you feel any obligation to do something about it - even relating it to others?

I know they're planning something to gain total control, and I thought it would be a nuclear war. Do you have any guesses to what it will be? I wondered if we should try to build some kind of small bomb shelter. I watched a documentary on a number of people across the country who already did this. I even got an update from Realtor.com that a lot of people are buying pieces of ground in remote areas to live.
 

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Brakelite first told me about the Papacy.

Brakelite introduced me to the Papacy being the antichrist and it made sense when I read the verse from Revelations 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

That verse you gave makes sense, and the interpretation. God just recently opened that up to me. Since you have been shown it, do you feel any obligation to do something about it - even relating it to others?

I know they're planning something to gain total control, and I thought it would be a nuclear war. Do you have any guesses to what it will be? I wondered if we should try to build some kind of small bomb shelter. I watched a documentary on a number of people across the country who already did this. I even got an update from Realtor.com that a lot of people are buying pieces of ground in remote areas to live.

I never heard of the teaching about "Sunday Sacredness." I knew they used to have blue laws that kept stores from operating on Sunday. Where do you see that in Scripture? Did you listen to some sermons that taught you about this? I'm still trudging my way through Revelations but I have never attended a bible study where it was taught.

You lost me on 'extremest religious fundamentalism' - how did you come to these conclusions - is there corresponding Scriptures?

I really like Walter Veith - Brakelite recommended some of his videos, and it gave me greater understanding, and how 9-11 was staged. I don't understand how God could let that happen however - it's too evil to comprehend. I will watch the video; - I appreciate you posting it. I have such a thirst for piecing together what I see happening and Revelations. I tend to be very proactive though, and wonder if we're to do something about it. When I learned some of it I was eager to share it and was shocked when a Pastor told me I'd better watch what I read online. It's such a relief to talk to others who see it. I have more to learn about it and have been reading a lot trying to understand. Have you watched Veith's video where he shows the Simpsons cartoon with the 911 towers? I'm unsure if the cartoonist knew 9-11 was planned, or if they had knowledge from the evil one when they drew that. Did you wonder that too?
 

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Why would the saint in Heaven need to keep Gods commandments, pray tell me what are they going to do Sin
Because that's what servants do, MJH. They obey their Master. The Master says, "Gabriel, go to Daniel and impart to him wisdom" and Gabriel obeys. You hate the idea of that because you are no different than your current master who was kicked out of heaven for choosing to disobey the Master.
Are you telling us that the righteousness of Christ is Sin, that the righteousness of God is sin, are you telling us that love is Sin, all the things the law cannot do is what Love has done
Why would you ask such a ridiculous question? The righteousness of Christ and sin are mutually exclusive.
if Grace is insufficient for you
If you define "grace" as forgiveness for sins from which you refuse to turn, you are blind - but if it is BOTH forgiveness AND power to obey, well then.
the works of Christ will never be enough.
The works of Christ are not what you want them to be: a license to continue in sin.
Because of love we will love, because of love , we will not hate, because of Love will not offend, but than in heaven we will be in the Spirit and not the flesh and it will all be different.
Once again, you are showcasing your willful ignorance - I've already directed you to the Bible in which is says the ANGELS DO HIS COMMANDMENTS. Are you going to argue that angels who do that don't love God and each other?
PS I dont worship my bible as some, Christ is my Lord.
You obviously don't read it either.
 

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I think you are judging me and I think unjustly.
Anthony I am not judging you - I'm trying to get others to be careful with another's feelings and consider what another may be going through. I shared how I was theologically mixed up after listening to a number of TV and radio preachers. I know it can happen, and one can be spiritually reborn. I also know that Satan can buffet someone, in which case one would need a hand up, not a kick in the teeth. I also know of the warnings in Scripture about false teachers - but the OP was not a teacher. Someone could just as easily question your salvation for any number of reasons. We have to be careful about making such judgments. There could be a pastor standing behind the pulpit who preaches eloquent sermons and who is held in high esteem by the masses who is not spiritually reborn, and there could be someone whose life is in shambles who is spiritually reborn and doing much for the Kingdom of God. The point is that we don't know - we can't see into another's spirit. The OP could be saved or he could be a tare. Any person on here could be.

Much of Christianity today is weak and the church lacks power; there are many reasons for this, but if we can't even treat one another with dignity and respect, then our profession is a sham. And once one person starts making another a butt of a joke, they very often lead others into sin and other believers begin to think that it's okay to engage in this particular sin. I've seen it. Christ put a high priority on love and how we treat others. And I include myself in having to learn it: There will come a day when you will need understanding from others; we're to bear up a weak brother:

Romans 15:1-2 - We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

>>> We are to encourage our brothers in Christ to do good:

"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works" - Hebrews 10:24

>>> People with small minds get their laughs at the expense of another but God teaches Christians how they are to treat one another:

1 Corinthians 13:4-13 - Charity suffereth long, [and] is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

>>> If one has great things in the Lord yet doesn't act with love, God says that person is nothing:

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a ringing gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have absolute faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing" - 1 Cor. 13:1

>> This is self-explanatory:

“Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.” - James 3:10

>>> We're to have compassion for one another, not belittle another to puff ourselves up and make ourselves feel like we're superior. People can see right through it. And if two join in a sin, it's still a sin. Sinners usually like company because A) they try to convince each other that what they're doing really isn't sin B) they try to convince others that this fellow is okay with it so the problem isn't me it's you. I've seen it all. I know the games, the tricks. One thing we should realize when we're dealing with other believers, is that they each have a greater or lesser degree of discernment and can see right through us. We can't hide from God and many times we can't hide from other believers.

1 Peter 3:8-12 - Finally, [be ye] all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, [be] pitiful, [be] courteous:

>>> How are we to act towards one another?

Ephesians 4:32 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

>>> Are our words edifying to another?

Ephesians 4:29-32 - Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

>>> Do you want to be made fun of? If not then we shouldn't make fun of another:

Luke 6:31 - And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

>>> If we don't love one another, how can we claim to love God?

1 John 4:20-21 - If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

I saw so much filthiness, partiality, and ego stroking go on in church that I don't have the stomach for it anymore. I would defend you too Anthony, if someone mistreated you. We're to "spur one another on to good works" and challenge one another to step higher since we have a high calling. I hope others challenge me to it as well.

2 Timothy 1:9
He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not because of our own works, but by His own purpose and by the grace He granted us in Christ Jesus before time eternal.
 
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