I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

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Soverign Grace

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Okay then.
I just hope you don't drive yourself and everyone around you totally nuts with your obsession.

God bless you....Take care....H
Same to you BG. I hope you don't drive yourself and everyone around you totally nuts with your being a busybody.

I know you're trying to help in your own edgy way, and I appreciate it.

God bless you also. I wish you a peaceful Sunday:)
 
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I can't do your work for you - I gave you resources to start with, and gave you links. It will answer your questions.

I didn't ask you to do anything, but to give your answers for your claims.

It appears, you have simply adopted the claims of other people and do not know why, other than, someone told you, steepling of the hands means, that person is a member of some secret society, preparing to doom the world.

Agenda 21 is the brain child of the UN, put forth in 1993, and nearly every Nation of the entire globe is a member of the UN.
The Nations and representatives of each Nation is not secret and openly published.

Trump had nothing to do with setting up the UN, Agreeing the US would be a member, or ever a US representative of the UN.

League of Nations was the forerunner to the UN.
League of Nations the brain child of:
Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat.
Founded 1920, after WWI,
headquartered, Switzerland
Members came and went.
Most members at one time 63 countries.
Officially dissolved 1946

UN, instigated by FDR, a Democrat, and the term coined by F.D Roosevelt, was in the works and discussion in about late 1943.
Founded 1946, after WWWII, headquartered, New York.
Initially 26 member nations.
Currently over 190 member nations.

A World Organization of Nations, is none other that the brain child of a US Democrats and agreements of other World Nations, and rightly so the Democrats should get the Credit for the ideas and agreements of both:
The past League of Nations and present UN.

A Watchful eye of WHAT the UN Does, IS without doubt a meddling reach into the Private Lives of Individuals, of course presented as an intent to be Beneficial, and many INDIVIDUALS enjoy the benefits, without noticing the intrusion/cost of their INDIVIDUAL Liberty.


Glory to God,
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I didn't ask you to do anything, but to give your answers for your claims.

It appears, you have simply adopted the claims of other people and do not know why, other than, someone told you, steepling of the hands means, that person is a member of some secret society, preparing to doom the world.

Agenda 21 is the brain child of the UN, put forth in 1993, and nearly every Nation of the entire globe is a member of the UN.
The Nations and representatives of each Nation is not secret and openly published.

Trump had nothing to do with setting up the UN, Agreeing the US would be a member, or ever a US representative of the UN.

League of Nations was the forerunner to the UN.
League of Nations the brain child of:
Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat.
Founded 1920, after WWI,
headquartered, Switzerland
Members came and went.
Most members at one time 63 countries.
Officially dissolved 1946

UN, instigated by FDR, a Democrat, and the term coined by F.D Roosevelt, was in the works and discussion in about late 1943.
Founded 1946, after WWWII, headquartered, New York.
Initially 26 member nations.
Currently over 190 member nations.

A World Organization of Nations, is none other that the brain child of a US Democrats and agreements of other World Nations, and rightly so the Democrats should get the Credit for the ideas and agreements of both:
The past League of Nations and present UN.

A Watchful eye of WHAT the UN Does, IS without doubt a meddling reach into the Private Lives of Individuals, of course presented as an intent to be Beneficial, and many INDIVIDUALS enjoy the benefits, without noticing the intrusion/cost of their INDIVIDUAL Liberty.


Glory to God,
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Taken - if you took the time to research you'll probably change your mind. I wouldn't have believed it all 6 months ago; I was very pro-Trump. All I can do is encourage you to look for yourself. The more Christians whose eyes are opened the better. I urge you to read Henry Makow. He has done his homework.
 

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Taken - if you took the time to research you'll probably change your mind. I wouldn't have believed it all 6 months ago; I was very pro-Trump. All I can do is encourage you to look for yourself. The more Christians whose eyes are opened the better. I urge you to read Henry Makow. He has done his homework.
Henry makow is a quack conspiracy conman and an Anti-Semite that makes money writing grotesque lies about the Bible, & promoting his hatred against Jews.
 
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Do you have proof that they're from "lefty" sites? And why are you trying to incite By Grace - why don't you address the OP directly?

I just did some deductive reasoning. All I saw Trump do was talk talk talk about border security, he never acted on it. He knows many are dying from the drug epidemic yet he does nothing about border security but TALK.

It's the Hegelian Dialectic - Obama/ Far Left Trump/ Far Right - only Trump isn't implementing Far Right policies - he's continuing to implement Agenda 21 right under our noses. Didn't you just read about his lie: He stood in front of the cameras and said he was going to support ICE and then he signed a bill keeping the border wide open and severely limiting ICE' ability to deport criminal aliens. I read it's going to be a pipeline for MS-13. In fact that may fit in with the 4th seal of "killing by the sword" since they have a penchant for killing with axes. Just how many times is he going to put the screws to Christians before they come out of denial and see he's all talk no action?
Why make the false accusation against me? I wasn't "inciting" anyone, but only stating the facts which anyone who wants to take 5 minutes of their own time can verify it and investigate these sources for themselves.
 
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Taken - if you took the time to research you'll probably change your mind. I wouldn't have believed it all 6 months ago; I was very pro-Trump. All I can do is encourage you to look for yourself. The more Christians whose eyes are opened the better. I urge you to read Henry Makow. He has done his homework.

I do not know Henry Makow, or his agenda.
You apparently have read his works...and you trust his works, but yet can not put one accusation against Trump with one fact, to spark my interest, to waste my time sifting through some guys agenda, I never heard of.

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Ye we are supposed to pray so He can do something but that has become a thing of the past... Now we pray Jesus come.
So what you are saying is that you do not know Jesus, with a comment like that proves you are not born again and are lost.
 

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So what you are saying is that you do not know Jesus, with a comment like that proves you are not born again and are lost.
Why do you have a problem with Trusting God to do something when you pray... or trusting Jesus to save you without you "doing" something.
 
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I do not know Henry Makow, or his agenda.
You apparently have read his works...and you trust his works, but yet can not put one accusation against Trump with one fact, to spark my interest, to waste my time sifting through some guys agenda, I never heard of.

Taken
It is all anti-semitic low quality stuff , he also claims God is anti-zionist, funny but my Bible says the opposite to his claims.
 
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Henry makow is a quack conspiracy conman and an Anti-Semite that makes money writing grotesque lies about the Bible, & promoting his hatred against Jews.
Henry makow is a quack conspiracy conman and an Anti-Semite that makes money writing grotesque lies about the Bible, & promoting his hatred against Jews.
Says who?
 

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Why make the false accusation against me? I wasn't "inciting" anyone, but only stating the facts which anyone who wants to take 5 minutes of their own time can verify it and investigate these sources for themselves.
It strikes me as odd that you show up on this forum and then tried to light a match to set off BG - someone who you noticed has an aversion to this topic. It makes me question your motives.
 

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I do not know Henry Makow, or his agenda.
You apparently have read his works...and you trust his works, but yet can not put one accusation against Trump with one fact, to spark my interest, to waste my time sifting through some guys agenda, I never heard of.

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I'm afraid that you are going to have to take off your rose-colored glasses regarding Trump. Some aren't ready to do this yet. It's understandable. I had high hopes too. God will show you when you're ready. I first read about a group of pastors having doubts about Trump, and then bit by bit things didn't add up. Then God opened my eyes. Sooner or later if you have God's Spirit of Truth He will lead you into all truth and you'll see that it's a massive con:

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