On the internet I found a solution to the Israel/Palestine conflict

brakelite · Feb 14, 2019

marksman said:
Sorry but you want it all to be nice and neat and to fit in with your theology, but it doesn't work that way.

The Jews are God's special people that he chose to be his example and representative on earth. He has dealt with them like no other nation and they are central to the fulfilment of his plan and purpose for the end times so they cannot be ruled out because they have been naughty boys.

And you are speaking as though every Jew is the same which cannot be farther from the truth. As of now, many Jews have accepted Christ as the Messiah and there are many messianic congregations in Israel. They will continue to grow.

As we move towards the end time the Jews will fall into line with the plans God has for them, so don't worry your little head about them. What God has planned will happen you can be sure of that.

If that is not the case then God is not God.

I also believe that the people, those who are genuine descendants of the Hebrew tribes, are loved by God Who is doing much to draw them to their Messiah. This is not just happening in Israel, but alsi in America, Australia, New Zealand, Asia, and Europe. Just as the genuine children of Ishmael are also being drawn to Christ for Abrahams sake, their father. However, Israel, the nation, is no longer God's chosen vessel for bringing the gospel of grace to the world. That responsibility lies with the church...

1 ¶ Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
3 ¶ Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time....

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

marksman · Feb 14, 2019

Windmillcharge said:
Make up your mind is Israel to opperate under the OT covernant which applied to all Israel or under the NT covernant which requires individuals to follow Jesus.

Either way the state of Israel does not conform to either covernant.

Just answer the question.

Windmillcharge · Feb 15, 2019

mjrhealth said:
guess you didnt read the post

I read it it and I see no sign that secular Israel or religous Israel is turning to Jesus, the new coivernant that is written in their hearts.

mjrhealth · Feb 15, 2019

Windmillcharge said:
I read it it and I see no sign that secular Israel or religous Israel is turning to Jesus, the new coivernant that is written in their hearts.

this bit

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Reggie Belafonte · Feb 16, 2019

marksman said:
Just to let you know Reggie that I am not a fool as I have one theological degree and three university degrees and universities do not enrol fools.

And for a nation that is controlled by Satan, God is doing a hell of a lot for them, especially the fact that every day there are Jews acknowledging Jesus as the Messiah.

Netahanyu, in particular, is blessing Christians who are helping Israel.

Of all the 260 million Arabs surrounding Israel, they have been awarded nine Nobel prizes. Israels 6 million have been awarded 107 Nobel prizes.

If it were not for the fact that they have been treated in Israeli hospitals, many Palestinians would be dead today.

I suggest that before you throw your theories around like confetti, you find out a few facts first.

Fact is that Jesus Christ is the King of Israel ! did you know that is a fact !

Anyone who claims to be Israel and does not believe that Jesus Christ is the King their of, is of Satan ! did you know that fact !

No one Blesses Israel but Jesus Christ, because they are his people and they do his will, that's how you are truly Blessed, did you know that is a fact.

Satan is behind giving Billions of USA Tax Dollars to the so called Jews in a that State and fact of the matter is that the stupid Goyim don't even know that they are being robed by Anti-Christ as a matter of fact !

Netahanu is blessing Christians

come off it !

he is laughing at them for being useful idiots to help Satan, He is a Mans works dolt, or didn't you know that fact.
Hey ! Do you understand that one must be born again in the Holy Spirit to be a blessed to Jesus Christ in doing his works only.
Netahanu could not even bless a chook.

marksman · Feb 17, 2019

Reggie Belafonte said:
Fact is that Jesus Christ is the King of Israel ! did you know that is a fact !

Anyone who claims to be Israel and does not believe that Jesus Christ is the King their of, is of Satan ! did you know that fact !

No one Blesses Israel but Jesus Christ, because they are his people and they do his will, that's how you are truly Blessed, did you know that is a fact.

Satan is behind giving Billions of USA Tax Dollars to the so called Jews in a that State and fact of the matter is that the stupid Goyim don't even know that they are being robed by Anti-Christ as a matter of fact !

Netahanu is blessing Christians come off it ! he is laughing at them for being useful idiots to help Satan, He is a Mans works dolt, or didn't you know that fact.
Hey ! Do you understand that one must be born again in the Holy Spirit to be a blessed to Jesus Christ in doing his works only.
Netahanu could not even bless a chook.

Did you know that it is a fact that I don't have time for such nonsensical claims?

Reggie Belafonte · Feb 17, 2019

marksman said:
Did you know that it is a fact that I don't have time for such nonsensical claims?

what nonsense, Jesus Christ is the King of Israel and anyone who rejects that is an Anti-Christ or a moron who does not understand who Jesus truly is, not to mention why would anyone look to the Anti-Christ Jews who reject Jesus Christ, it's a fact that anyone with a brain knows is a fact. no one could be so stupid to reject such facts at all.

How can a Anti-Christ bless anyone, such is in fact a curse.

Windmillcharge · Feb 18, 2019

mjrhealth said:
this bit

Is not currently being fulfilled.
Untill All Israel is obeying Jesus they are in the same state as every non christian any where in the world.

mjrhealth · Feb 18, 2019

Windmillcharge said:
Is not currently being fulfilled.
Untill All Israel is obeying Jesus they are in the same state as every non christian any where in the world.

When God removes the veil that He placed over their eyes, for our sake, they will see whom their Mesiah is and they will all be saved,

I dont understand why it is now that so many christians have developed this hatred for Israel, the anitchrist truly has being doing some work.

marksman · Feb 21, 2019

Reggie Belafonte said:
what nonsense, Jesus Christ is the King of Israel and anyone who rejects that is an Anti-Christ or a moron who does not understand who Jesus truly is, not to mention why would anyone look to the Anti-Christ Jews who reject Jesus Christ, it's a fact that anyone with a brain knows is a fact. no one could be so stupid to reject such facts at all.

How can a Anti-Christ bless anyone, such is in fact a curse.

Your post is so full of pejoratives, I detect an angry person behind it. Not a good look.

Reggie Belafonte · Feb 21, 2019

marksman said:
Your post is so full of pejoratives, I detect an angry person behind it. Not a good look.

No, not at all in fact.
I am a Born Again of the holy Spirit Christian not to mention I have a Jewish Sir name blood line you know and I know many Jews and most of my best friends are from a Jewish blood line as well you know.
When and if you wake up to yourself you should go and look into and study what the OT is all about and it would be good for you to try to understand what the true dedicated Jewish people, that's the ones who truly live the OT you know not the ones who claim to be Jews, do you understand that ? it's the same like with Christians who only claim to be Christians but are truly not you know ? as Jesus pointed out such as a fact that he did not know them and Jesus warned about the False Jews as well, do you understand that fact ?

No marksman, I am true to Jesus Christ and the fact is I know who Jesus Christ is in fact and I understand who are true Jews and who are not, just as I do with Christians who are not. now as I have informed you all that Jesus Christ is the King of Israel ? do you understand that fact or do you reject that ? if you reject that fact you are not truly a Christian ? do you understand that fact.

Now the fact is if you bothered to do your home work, you will find that the truly dedicated Jews do not claim the 'State' ? that has been called Israel ? by the so called Zionist ? is Israel in fact ! it's they the true Jews who are truly dedicated and truly educated as to the OT and follow it, who in fact are saying this you know. do you understand that fact or are you ignorant of such ?

Are the true Jews happy that the Land that they are living in that is 'just called Israel' well no not at all they are angry that it is not Israel, they what it to be truly "Israel" do you understand that fact, they know that it's not and are totally pissed off about the trash that are living in there State, because so many are not believers on the OT but are a disgrace to the OT, not to mention that the Talmud Books are truly Satanic and that the Zionist do not represent the True Jews at all, now that's what they are saying, did you know that ?
Liberal Jews are worthless trash that are a disgrace to true Jews. now do you know that that is the perception of the truly devout Jews.
All such is the opinions of the true Jews you know, and just because I have pointed out such, you claim that I am the one who is a angry person. well most likely I am disappointed and the true Jews are angry to be sure.

Look at it this way I know who it is that all should look to, do you under stand that fact ? and I say to the Jews to come to Jesus Christ ! and you know what I am not looking for another Jesus, because I know who he is in fact.
Am I angry that people do not know who in fact there Lord and Saviour is ? well no ! It is upsetting to know such, but I can remember when I did not know truly Jesus to be the Lord. so being angry will not get anyone anywhere, not to mention do you know that Jesus said "they no not what they do". so it's not truly a good look being ignorant is such is it dear marksman.

Now what's wrong with me saying that all must come to Jesus Christ ? I am not looking for another Jesus you know and I know that the Jews are Lost and all that they have to do is come to Jesus Christ and I am not pissing on about a new Jesus, but the one and only Jesus. fact is that the true Israelites came to Jesus 2000 years ago, do you know that fact ! and they did know that Jesus was the Christ in fact.
You want to study about Nathaniel buddy and you will then come to understand that he was a True Israelite in fact as Jesus Christ said so !
True Israelites are Servants of God ! and True Born Again Christians are Servants of God !

Reggie Belafonte · Feb 21, 2019

mjrhealth said:
When God removes the veil that He placed over their eyes, for our sake, they will see whom their Mesiah is and they will all be saved,

I dont understand why it is now that so many christians have developed this hatred for Israel, the anitchrist truly has being doing some work.

How can a True Christian hate that they are themselves Israel in fact ?

Pointing out a false Israel, is that a Sin ! well the Truly dedicated Jews of the OT know that the State called Israel is not truly Israel at all, but they wish it was. not to mention that the True Jews in the "State" do say that the so called Zionist do not represent them at all.
You want to do your homework bro ! Thousands of Jews in the State and in NY have demonstrated against the Zionist Bastards.
The Zionist are making the true Jews look real bad and the true Jews resent that and they are not supporting what the cunning murdering Zionist are doing, the true Jews do not want to be apart of such Satanic madness. but your Talmud controlled Media hid the demonstrations from the world.
The Talmud think that they control the Jews and they do a good job of that, just as they do with the Goyim, but not all of us are that stupid to be coned by the Satanic Talmud Whore. they are a pox that come from the Golden Calf mob and are as Holy Moses warned about and as Jesus Christ Warned about.

marksman · Feb 22, 2019

Reggie Belafonte said:
No, not at all in fact.
I am a Born Again of the holy Spirit Christian not to mention I have a Jewish Sir name blood line you know and I know many Jews and most of my best friends are from a Jewish blood line as well you know.
When and if you wake up to yourself you should go and look into and study what the OT is all about and it would be good for you to try to understand what the true dedicated Jewish people, that's the ones who truly live the OT you know not the ones who claim to be Jews, do you understand that ? it's the same like with Christians who only claim to be Christians but are truly not you know ? as Jesus pointed out such as a fact that he did not know them and Jesus warned about the False Jews as well, do you understand that fact ?

No marksman, I am true to Jesus Christ and the fact is I know who Jesus Christ is in fact and I understand who are true Jews and who are not, just as I do with Christians who are not. now as I have informed you all that Jesus Christ is the King of Israel ? do you understand that fact or do you reject that ? if you reject that fact you are not truly a Christian ? do you understand that fact.

Now the fact is if you bothered to do your home work, you will find that the truly dedicated Jews do not claim the 'State' ? that has been called Israel ? by the so called Zionist ? is Israel in fact ! it's they the true Jews who are truly dedicated and truly educated as to the OT and follow it, who in fact are saying this you know. do you understand that fact or are you ignorant of such ?

Are the true Jews happy that the Land that they are living in that is 'just called Israel' well no not at all they are angry that it is not Israel, they what it to be truly "Israel" do you understand that fact, they know that it's not and are totally pissed off about the trash that are living in there State, because so many are not believers on the OT but are a disgrace to the OT, not to mention that the Talmud Books are truly Satanic and that the Zionist do not represent the True Jews at all, now that's what they are saying, did you know that ?
Liberal Jews are worthless trash that are a disgrace to true Jews. now do you know that that is the perception of the truly devout Jews.
All such is the opinions of the true Jews you know, and just because I have pointed out such, you claim that I am the one who is a angry person. well most likely I am disappointed and the true Jews are angry to be sure.

Look at it this way I know who it is that all should look to, do you under stand that fact ? and I say to the Jews to come to Jesus Christ ! and you know what I am not looking for another Jesus, because I know who he is in fact.
Am I angry that people do not know who in fact there Lord and Saviour is ? well no ! It is upsetting to know such, but I can remember when I did not know truly Jesus to be the Lord. so being angry will not get anyone anywhere, not to mention do you know that Jesus said "they no not what they do". so it's not truly a good look being ignorant is such is it dear marksman.

Now what's wrong with me saying that all must come to Jesus Christ ? I am not looking for another Jesus you know and I know that the Jews are Lost and all that they have to do is come to Jesus Christ and I am not pissing on about a new Jesus, but the one and only Jesus. fact is that the true Israelites came to Jesus 2000 years ago, do you know that fact ! and they did know that Jesus was the Christ in fact.
You want to study about Nathaniel buddy and you will then come to understand that he was a True Israelite in fact as Jesus Christ said so !
True Israelites are Servants of God ! and True Born Again Christians are Servants of God !

If you are born again why all the pejoratives?

mjrhealth · Feb 22, 2019

Reggie Belafonte said:
How can a True Christian hate that they are themselves Israel in fact ?

Pointing out a false Israel, is that a Sin ! well the Truly dedicated Jews of the OT know that the State called Israel is not truly Israel at all, but they wish it was. not to mention that the True Jews in the "State" do say that the so called Zionist do not represent them at all.
You want to do your homework bro ! Thousands of Jews in the State and in NY have demonstrated against the Zionist Bastards.
The Zionist are making the true Jews look real bad and the true Jews resent that and they are not supporting what the cunning murdering Zionist are doing, the true Jews do not want to be apart of such Satanic madness. but your Talmud controlled Media hid the demonstrations from the world.
The Talmud think that they control the Jews and they do a good job of that, just as they do with the Goyim, but not all of us are that stupid to be coned by the Satanic Talmud Whore. they are a pox that come from the Golden Calf mob and are as Holy Moses warned about and as Jesus Christ Warned about.

When you stand in opposition to God I would not call that sensible.

Windmillcharge · Feb 22, 2019

mjrhealth said:
When God removes the veil that He placed over their eyes, for our sake, they will see whom their Mesiah is and they will all be saved,

I dont understand why it is now that so many christians have developed this hatred for Israel, the anitchrist truly has being doing some work.

I hope that is soon for their sake.

I don't hate Israel, but I have an accurate understanding of what the state of Israel is.

Reggie Belafonte · Feb 22, 2019

mjrhealth said:
When you stand in opposition to God I would not call that sensible.

Well then it's you who is the one who must be sanding against Jesus Christ in fact, or don't you know that.

Maybe you do not know God and are just following a god. or a religion ?

Anyone who looks to the so called Jews must be a fool, not to mention an Anti-Christ in fact, do you understand that the Jews do reject Jesus Christ in fact, so why look to them.

Or why does one look to the Jews today, fact is that anyone who looks to the so called Jews must be a fool who does not know who Jesus truly is in fact. and that's why they are looking for a hope in something like that because they do not have the Holy Spirit.

Even the true Jews are lost, let alone all the morons who are claiming to be Jews and are in fact not Jews at all, Jesus pointed this out remember.

No one comes to the Father but by the only begotten Son, do you know that fact ! so why would you claim that I am in opposition to God, fact is that you are denying Jesus Christ, who is the only way ? do you know that fact. any idiot that looks away from Jesus Christ is totally lost and only will lead others astray. do you know that fact.

I know that Jesus is the Christ and that he is the only way and all other ways are nonsense, do you know that he is the Alpha and the Omega and do you understand what that means. there is only one Jesus who is the Christ you know, not two ? like all the fools are making out nowadays, so you have Jews who are rejecting Jesus Christ and are looking for a( new Jesus )? and we have new age so called Christians who are claiming that Jesus is coming ? well I have news for them all, Jesus came 2000 years ago and anyone who does not understand that fact is a fool or an Anti-Christ. yes they are rejecting that Jesus is the Christ in fact ? do you understand that fact.

Jesus does not come back in the flesh, do you understand that the Bible says that, it's all got to do with the "Holy Spirit" and if you don't have it you are lost and only running around doing mans works religion.

All the people who are looking for the 2ed coming are lost and do not understand that the Kingdome of God is within your grasp, and you all must truly be born again to know this. it's the Holy Spirit that points such out, man can not point it out to anyone.

I am in the Kingdom of God now and when the 2ed coming comes I am here before them coming in as all who are coming in are born again. no one comes into the Kingdom of God but for they who are truly born again.

Reggie Belafonte · Feb 22, 2019

marksman said:
If you are born again why all the pejoratives?

unpleasant you recon I am being, well well well who was it that took offence to Jesus, at what he was saying hey ? and had there way with him for saying such that he said, not to mention all of his followers, Jesus was not pleasant to there ears as they did not want him saying what he was saying. he was going to destroy the Temple that they were building to god ? but Jesus Christ is the Temple of God is he not ? no it was they who offended God not to mention that they were unpleasant to God.

Well that's right I am not lukewarm, so I may come across like Jesus did some what, because I speak the truth and the fact is that the truth offends ignorant people.

If one is being lead down the wrong path should I just sit back knowing that they are going the wrong way, or in fear not tell them that they are on the wrong track. when they think or believe that they are on the right track ? well that may take some convincing you know in fact ? not to mention that I am sure many would be offended for sure, but I can live with that but to let them just go on to there destruction, well that pains me greatly.

So because one may come across as being unpleasant is not a Sin you know.
Not to mention that the works of Satan are pleasant to a fool, as such works as to roping one in.
Did you know that, I have never come across a con man that was not trying to be nice, so as to lead you astray, I have had only 48 years experience in business but every time I have come across such it's that I can smell a rat and ever time that I had doubt about someone playing the game, 99% of the time I was right I should of listened to my inner self and not followed along with the cunning spin that was leading one astray.

I went to see an old mate and we went to a couples place and the couple pointed out, boy you are just so honest that they were astounded by it as to what I was saying about my mate, I suppose that it's like two old grumpy men somewhat but I know him and all his crap, so I will point out his BS and stupidity for what it is directly, but we are still best of mates and hey his eldest sister is just like me she does not tolerate any of his stupid crap at all, now he does not like it, but so what ! such is not a Sin ? His sister is a Matron of a hospital, so she does not tolerate any BS at all, as one can not afford such playing silly buggers with nonsense.

mjrhealth · Feb 22, 2019

Windmillcharge said:
I hope that is soon for their sake.

I don't hate Israel, but I have an accurate understanding of what the state of Israel is.

I seripusly doubt that

mjrhealth · Feb 22, 2019

Reggie Belafonte said:
Anyone who looks to the so called Jews must be a fool, not to mention an Anti-Christ in fact, do you understand that the Jews do reject Jesus Christ in fact, so why look to them.

It is because of them we have our salvation, and it is because of Gods promise to then that they will be saved, where you or anyone else thinks.

marksman · Feb 23, 2019

Reggie Belafonte said:
unpleasant you recon I am being, well well well who was it that took offence to Jesus, at what he was saying hey ? and had there way with him for saying such that he said, not to mention all of his followers, Jesus was not pleasant to there ears as they did not want him saying what he was saying. he was going to destroy the Temple that they were building to god ? but Jesus Christ is the Temple of God is he not ? no it was they who offended God not to mention that they were unpleasant to God.

Well that's right I am not lukewarm, so I may come across like Jesus did some what, because I speak the truth and the fact is that the truth offends ignorant people.

If one is being lead down the wrong path should I just sit back knowing that they are going the wrong way, or in fear not tell them that they are on the wrong track. when they think or believe that they are on the right track ? well that may take some convincing you know in fact ? not to mention that I am sure many would be offended for sure, but I can live with that but to let them just go on to there destruction, well that pains me greatly.

So because one may come across as being unpleasant is not a Sin you know.
Not to mention that the works of Satan are pleasant to a fool, as such works as to roping one in.
Did you know that, I have never come across a con man that was not trying to be nice, so as to lead you astray, I have had only 48 years experience in business but every time I have come across such it's that I can smell a rat and ever time that I had doubt about someone playing the game, 99% of the time I was right I should of listened to my inner self and not followed along with the cunning spin that was leading one astray.

I went to see an old mate and we went to a couples place and the couple pointed out, boy you are just so honest that they were astounded by it as to what I was saying about my mate, I suppose that it's like two old grumpy men somewhat but I know him and all his crap, so I will point out his BS and stupidity for what it is directly, but we are still best of mates and hey his eldest sister is just like me she does not tolerate any of his stupid crap at all, now he does not like it, but so what ! such is not a Sin ? His sister is a Matron of a hospital, so she does not tolerate any BS at all, as one can not afford such playing silly buggers with nonsense.

Let your speech be with all grace...not pejoratives.

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