MATTHEW 7:13 THE STRAIT GATE

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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Jesus came preaching the gospel of the kingdom. Jesus was preaching himself as the Son of God, the Messiah. Jesus was preaching that the coming kingdom was at hand; the promised, prophetic, earthly Davidic kingdom. Jesus will rule on the throne of David, and Israel will be kings, and priests, a Holy nation.

Israel could only enter the kingdom through the narrow, strait gate. They could only enter through Jesus, by believing he is the Son of God, their Messiah. They could only enter by obeying the commandments of Jesus; they had to confess him, be baptized, and obey the law for righteousness in his sight. They would be given the Holy Ghost, who would put his laws in them, so they would be able to obey.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Apostate Israel would be seperated from the believing remnant of Israel. The apostate, unbelieving Israel, would be known to the remnant by their fruit.

Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

The apostate Israel will produce evil fruit.

Matthew 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Matthew 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Apostate Israel faces the fire of hell if they will not believe on Jesus.

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

The remnant, the little flock, will know who is apostate among them during the tribulation.
 

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Israel could only enter the kingdom through the narrow, strait gate. They could only enter through Jesus, by believing he is the Son of God, their Messiah. They could only enter by obeying the commandments of Jesus; they had to confess him, be baptized, and obey the law for righteousness in his sight. They would be given the Holy Ghost, who would put his laws in them, so they would be able to obey.

All about Israel obtaining a kingdom and nothing about those who are not Israel.
Is the kingdom of God only for the Jews?
 

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All about Israel obtaining a kingdom and nothing about those who are not Israel.
Is the kingdom of God only for the Jews?
The Kingdom is for the new covenant "HOUSE" of Israel, not for the tribs of Israel, but the "HOUSE", and that house contain Jews and Gentiles.

the parable of the vineyard let out to wicked husbandmen tells us that.

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All about Israel obtaining a kingdom and nothing about those who are not Israel.
Is the kingdom of God only for the Jews?

God is reconciling heaven and earth. Israel is promised the kingdom on earth. The body of Christ is promised the heavenly places. Together, they are the kingdom of God.
 

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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
1. The *strait* or narrow gate is Christ Himself, who said " I AM THE DOOR".

2. The narrow way is obedience to Christ and God.

3. The wide gate includes all the world's religions other than Bible Christianity.

4. The broad way is all pagan religions and false Christianity, which lead to Hell.
 

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Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Jesus came preaching the gospel of the kingdom. Jesus was preaching himself as the Son of God, the Messiah. Jesus was preaching that the coming kingdom was at hand; the promised, prophetic, earthly Davidic kingdom. Jesus will rule on the throne of David, and Israel will be kings, and priests, a Holy nation.

Israel could only enter the kingdom through the narrow, strait gate. They could only enter through Jesus, by believing he is the Son of God, their Messiah. They could only enter by obeying the commandments of Jesus; they had to confess him, be baptized, and obey the law for righteousness in his sight. They would be given the Holy Ghost, who would put his laws in them, so they would be able to obey.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Apostate Israel would be seperated from the believing remnant of Israel. The apostate, unbelieving Israel, would be known to the remnant by their fruit.

Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

The apostate Israel will produce evil fruit.

Matthew 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Matthew 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Apostate Israel faces the fire of hell if they will not believe on Jesus.

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

The remnant, the little flock, will know who is apostate among them during the tribulation.

It seems like a lot of ranting...but what is the point you are trying to make. Or the discussion that you are trying to start?
 
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The Kingdom is for the new covenant "HOUSE" of Israel, not for the tribs of Israel, but the "HOUSE", and that house contain Jews and Gentiles.

the parable of the vineyard let out to wicked husbandmen tells us that.

PICJAG

They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Matthew 21:41

If this is the parable you are referring to, the "other husbandmen", from my understanding, are not the Gentiles. They are the little flock, the believing remnant, of Israel.
 

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It seems like a lot of ranting...but what is the point you are trying to make. Or the discussion that you are trying to start?

I am just sharing my understanding of some misapplied/misunderstood passages for consideration; my view of scripture can be accepted or rejected. Thank you
 
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They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Matthew 21:41

If this is the parable you are referring to, the "other husbandmen", from my understanding, are not the Gentiles. They are the little flock, the believing remnant, of Israel.
believing?, yes, John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life".

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The Kingdom is for the new covenant "HOUSE" of Israel, not for the tribs of Israel, but the "HOUSE", and that house contain Jews and Gentiles.
God is reconciling heaven and earth. Israel is promised the kingdom on earth. The body of Christ is promised the heavenly places. Together, they are the kingdom of God.

So Paul in teaching that there is no difference between Jew and Gentile was wrong. As what you both are saying is that there is a difference between Christian and Jew.
 
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So Paul in teaching that there is no difference between Jew and Gentile was wrong. As what you both are saying is that there is a difference between Christian and Jew.
The way to understand this is that (1) within the Church there is no difference between Jew and Gentile but (2) once the Church is complete, God will resume dealing with Jews and Israel for the purpose of restoring the kingdom of Israel under Christ.

Therefore the eternal home of the Church is the New Jerusalem, whereas the eternal home of the twelve tribes (redeemed and restored under Christ) is the land of Israel as noted in the Abrahamic Covenant.
 

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The way to understand this is that (1) within the Church there is no difference between Jew and Gentile but (2) once the Church is complete, God will resume dealing with Jews and Israel for the purpose of restoring the kingdom of Israel under Christ.

Therefore the eternal home of the Church is the New Jerusalem, whereas the eternal home of the twelve tribes (redeemed and restored under Christ) is the land of Israel as noted in the Abrahamic Covenant.


Or there is only one kingdom of God with Jesus at its head being worshipped and served by all christians wheher Jew or gentile.

Remember one of the purposes of Israel was to bring the surrounding nations to know God because of the holiness of Israel, to bring all nations to worship God.

Ever noticed the repeated call to treat All people the same in the OT, yet you are saying God will treat Christians differently.
 

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So Paul in teaching that there is no difference between Jew and Gentile was wrong. As what you both are saying is that there is a difference between Christian and Jew.
First thanks for the reply, second, we can't vouch for what someone else say, we only states what the BIBLE says.

God almighty clearly says he will sit on David throne, which will be here on earth. supportive scripture, Psalms 132:11 "The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne". the LORD all cap is the ALMIGHTY.

here clearly, the LORD will sit on david throne. now if the LORD is enthrone here on Earth what are other doing in heaven? for the scriptures are clear, John 14:3 "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also". now is that for JEWS ONLY? ... let's see.

the NEW Jersuslem is coming down here, and ALL NATIONS will be in her, supportive scriptures, Revelation 22:2 "In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Revelation 22:3 "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
Revelation 22:4 "And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
Revelation 22:5 "And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever".

now to be sure that all nation will be in here who is of him, scripture, Revelation 21:23 "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Revelation 21:24 "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it". (NATIONS HERE HAVE AN "S" AT THE END INDICATING MORE THAN JUST ONE NATION, WELL THAT CLOSED THE CASE FOR ME).

the scriptures clearly states the Kingdom will be here on EARTH, and all who serve him will be in her, (the city).

this teaching I have heard many many years ago, coming out of Dallas seminary school, about the Jews will be here on earth and the gentiles in heaven, another false belief, and deception of satan, for it do not line up with the word of God.

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Ever noticed the repeated call to treat All people the same in the OT, yet you are saying God will treat Christians differently.
I'm not the one saying it. God says it. So believe it. Both the Church and Israel are within the Kingdom of God, but have different purposes.
 

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the scriptures clearly states the Kingdom will be here on EARTH, and all who serve him will be in her, (the city).

this teaching I have heard many many years ago, coming out of Dallas seminary school, about the Jews will be here on earth and the gentiles in heaven, another false belief, and deception of satan, for it do not line up with the word of God.

Are you arguing for one place in heaven for All christians or for two?
 

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I'm not the one saying it. God says it. So believe it. Both the Church and Israel are within the Kingdom of God, but have different purposes.
Yes God treats all alike so there is only one heaven/kingdom for All Christians.
 

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Are you arguing for one place in heaven for All christians or for two?
we're not arguing at all. let the scriptures speak,
All things are his by inheritance, Ephesians 1:11 "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will". in our new bodies, heaven and earth is ours. no time, no set place for all things are ours, including the central location of the new city.

in Christ, who fills both heaven and earth, and we in him. knowing this, we should not think Carnally, but Spiritually.

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So Paul in teaching that there is no difference between Jew and Gentile was wrong. As what you both are saying is that there is a difference between Christian and Jew.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28
This verse found in Paul's epistle is talking about the body of Christ.

If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: Ephesians 3:2
There is no difference between Jew and Gentile in this dispensation.

For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Ephesians 2:14
Before Paul and his revelations, and before the body of Christ, there was a separation between Jew and Gentile.

Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Mark 1:14

In the gospels, this was the gospel preached; the gospel of the kingdom (the prophetic, literal, earthly kingdom, promised Israel) is not the same gospel Paul preaches. During this dispensation the Gentiles could only be blessed through Israel.
 

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The way to understand this is that (1) within the Church there is no difference between Jew and Gentile but (2) once the Church is complete, God will resume dealing with Jews and Israel for the purpose of restoring the kingdom of Israel under Christ.

The above is correct

Therefore the eternal home of the Church is the New Jerusalem, whereas the eternal home of the twelve tribes (redeemed and restored under Christ) is the land of Israel as noted in the Abrahamic Covenant.

I see New Jerusalem coming down from heaven and given to the believing Israel of God.

The body of Christ is given an inheritance in heavenly places.
 

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There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28
This verse found in Paul's epistle is talking about the body of Christ.

If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: Ephesians 3:2
There is no difference between Jew and Gentile in this dispensation.

For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Ephesians 2:14
Before Paul and his revelations, and before the body of Christ, there was a separation between Jew and Gentile.

Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Mark 1:14

In the gospels, this was the gospel preached; the gospel of the kingdom (the prophetic, literal, earthly kingdom, promised Israel) is not the same gospel Paul preaches. During this dispensation the Gentiles could only be blessed through Israel.


So there is only one plac e in heaven for All Christians.