Good point. We might give over a tenth in freewill offerings, but it is not now a legal, Levitical requirement.
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The phrase 'kingdom of heaven' is often understood as the totality of those who profess - similar to the use of 'Christendom' today. These phrases really denote entities which contain a huge doctrinal and spiritual mixture.
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ah, prolly better if you ask your pastor that. Maybe. Being as how you couldn't hear what he was saying while you were under, and maybe what he said when you were coming up didn't register or something? Or maybe the best answer here is "that was meaningless for you, and meant for someone else" I dunno, sometimes posts are like that I guess?
The law was changed (Hebrews 7.12). The old Levitical system of tithing went out with it, even though generosity in giving certainly did not.
I'm thinking that "another baptism bites the dust" is something disparaging. The above comes across that way to me. But I'm sure that's not what you meant!
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Mark
Might have been someone else who said this; I don't know.
Though I do have strong views about baptism...(Acts 2.41...)
@Lady Crosstalk I just cannot understand professing Christians who seem to want to set aside the glorious, comforting truth of the Rapture of the church, merely because it's not something fashionable perhaps.
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Their are some here that wish to bring others under bondage.
Maybe to glory in their flesh?
The beginning of knowledge is to fear God. To fear God is to hate evil. To enter back into the Mosaic law makes the Cross of Christ of none effect. The flesh profits nothing.
Galatians is a very pivotal Epistle in this respect. The New Testament believer is truly under grace, not law.
Even with that in mind . . .
But yes, I think that's what this kind of thinking is about. Those who think they keep the law rely on themselves, that's my take. And those who try to bring others into the bondage of Law are trying to notch their belts. At least that's the way Paul looked at it.
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I can't imagine a more detailed explanation of how we're not under the Law. Well, except for Romans, and Colossians, and 1 John, and . . .
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Yes--it is the "Blessed Hope". I think their objections have to do with two things: First, it is likely the belief of many Christians that the Church has always been persecuted--so why would we believe that, in this one instance, the Church would be spared? To that, I say, yes, the Church has always been persecuted by those who belong to Satan, but the Book of Revelation makes it clear that the Tribulation is the time that God's wrath and that of the Lamb, will be poured out on an evil and worldly populace. After the removal of the Church, some will make a choice to be sheep instead of goats and will pay the price with their martyrdom. And the Church is NOT appointed to the wrath of God. (Some wag has expressed it as, "Jesus is not a wife-abuser.")
The Second objection is that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is tied to Dispensationalism, which, in turn supports the idea of a Millennial Kingdom overseen by Jewish believers in Jesus--which many Christians have been taught to despise. Antisemitism has always been a VERY serious problem in the Church since its early days.
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When did THAT happen?? I think I missed it. If you mean that His wrath was poured out on Jesus on the Cross, I would say that you are correct in a spiritual sense--that is how we in the Church are cleansed. But, the physical wrath of God is yet to come. He did exercise it in the Flood but it looks like a cleansing of the earth is required again. The first was with water. Peter said the next cleansing would come as fire.
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Our posts crossed each other. Calvary cleansed the Church. The wrath of God on unbelievers is yet to come.
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Well, i know this is maybe a radical suggestion, but being how this is nominally what is usually deemed a "conversation," maybe you could reply to the post? But I did my best to make that rhetorical-ish too, in case you prefer to go that route; there at the end? As I'm not sure how you were ritually baptised, and let's be honest prolly like no one really pays attention in that moment I guess.
I'm retarded, which makes me hyper-aware I guess, so I just asked him what he said lol. Duh.
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