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Vince

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Because science and the Bible agree on that.

Plus, the ultimate beginning just gets pushed back in time and leaves the same question for you. How did it all begin?
I don’t know.

My question to you is why should a god exist instead of nothing?
 

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Blessings in Christ Jesus! I see that you have great insight and yet it will be ignored on this thread. And those that truly are, those that The Lord has raised up, in these end times, are of One accord, having the same mind being in Christ Jesus. It is these that have not loved their own lives, but have laid it down so that others may live. It is these, not trained by flesh and blood(nourished in the wilderness) that will turn the battle back in the coming days ahead.
how do you know any of this?
 

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some scientists think that is the best explanation so far. None think it is the total answer. Christians believe a god that always existed made everything by speaking with no evidence. Why does a god exist instead of nothing.

Because something had to exist outside the laws of physics or we would not.
 

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how do you know any of this?
Hi Vince, hope all is well with you. To stand on the other side of knowing is not a bad thing, for I once did. Searching out the truth of a matter is also a good thing. Studying the Bible for years, in a way, is searching out a truth.Since you have already studied I will bring a few things out of what you have already read. If Jesus is perfect, and He is, then He must have perfect timing. So it is when He calls a person unto Himself. Jesus said, "when I am lifted up, I will drawl all men unto myself" He also said, "Behold I stand at the door and knock, if anyone hears my voice, and opens the door, I will enter into him and we will sup together". If God exist and He created all things, and the Bible says "God is love", would He not love His creation, the Christian as well as the non Christian? And if He can see all things, and He can, would He not watch the lives of all His creation. You see The Lord is never far from anyone. But for all of His creation there is a perfect time that He will attempt to reveal Himself to a person. If a person responds by truly opening the door, when He knocks, then He truly will enter that person, and He never leaves. For He says,"I will never leave you nor forsake you". It is then, and only then, that a person is truly born from above(Born again). Now they know The Truth(For the truth can only be found in Jesus) and that Truth has set them free. All of a sudden the Bible becomes alive to them because they have become alive in Christ Jesus. Now they are standing on the side of knowing, and how could they not. So that is how I know these things, for The Lord is with me. And when the day comes, and coming it is, when you hear His voice, do not harden your heart, but open the door and then you will truly understand the meaning of this life. And so you may know, it is not The Lords desire that any soul should perish.
 
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No, "adherence" is the wrong term. Order is more the case. With order comes peace.

But even order can be misunderstood. It is not an order as under law, but above it; not at odds, but with the flow, with truth, like birds of the air, and fish in the water. Only when we become One with God, can we truly experience: My way, My rules...because only then are they the same as Him who is all powerful. Only then can we see mountains move for us rather than against us, or take to flight.
If Christianity critiques itself on inner transformation, then it's no different from any other religion.
 

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salvation is life or death in eternity yet god only gives us clues to find true salvation. When I give my children good gifts I don’t make them try to decipher clues or other peoples opinions. I give it to them freely and hope they enjoy it. God, not so much from your description.

Show me this prison exists and we can talk more about your analogy.
Christians need hell to exist more than heaven, without hell most of them would have looked at the evidence and left already. I think that they can't question the God of the bible while hell exists in their mind's.
 

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I have a question about hell.

Is hell

A: Destruction
B: Eternal suffering
C: Deepest Darkness
D: A. B. C.
 
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I don't even know why I'm here.
I cannot tell you about hell since I have not seeing it for myself, but death I can, I have a friend who suffered much pain. so much so she wanted to die, so she literally demanded for God to let her die and HE did, and she did, and she found herself in this complete darkness, she said it was like oil, you cant hears anything you cant see anything but you know there are others there, because after your flesh dies, the other death is complete and utter separation from God, God is love without God there is no love, this world has rejected God and you see a world without God and without love, that is not His doing it is the choice of man, but that God will end soon enough, God is Light, Jesus is life without them men walk in darkness and have no light, that stands for many "christians" too. If you want life ask Jesus, you never know He does answer those who ask.
As for my friend, well she called out to Jesus, still too this day, doesnt know why, but He pulled her out of there and now she lives for Him, even with the pain.
 

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I cannot tell you about hell since I have not seeing it for myself, but death I can, I have a friend who suffered much pain. so much so she wanted to die, so she literally demanded for God to let her die and HE did, and she did, and she found herself in this complete darkness, she said it was like oil, you cant hears anything you cant see anything but you know there are others there, because after your flesh dies, the other death is complete and utter separation from God, God is love without God there is no love, this world has rejected God and you see a world without God and without love, that is not His doing it is the choice of man, but that God will end soon enough, God is Light, Jesus is life without them men walk in darkness and have no light, that stands for many "christians" too. If you want life ask Jesus, you never know He does answer those who ask.
What she just wished herself to death, people see lots of stupid stuff.
 

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What she just wished herself to death, people see lots of stupid stuff.
And so many just sim-ply dont believe and think that somehow they can save themselves, what was it Jesus said,

Luk_11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

everyone wants to see miracles before they believe, that is not faith, if you want to know God is real, just ask yourself how is it that one microbe decided to become a fish than did, how did it flourish it would need a partner does that not mean that two microbes would of had to choose to become fish, one chooses to become male the other female,... What are the odds of that, than one fish chooses to walk on land and become a lizard, what are the chances of that, because you need two that means again that two fishes must of made the choice at the same time one a male than the other a female, and soon you see how ridiculous evolution becomes, because who in the heck told them they need legs, and that they need lungs to breath and that one needs a womb the other sperm to reproduce, or as the question goes, what came first, the chicken or the egg, because for that man doesnt have the answer.
 

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And so many just sim-ply dont believe and think that somehow they can save themselves, what was it Jesus said,

Luk_11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

everyone wants to see miracles before they believe, that is not faith, if you want to know God is real, just ask yourself how is it that one microbe decided to become a fish than did, how did it flourish it would need a partner does that not mean that two microbes would of had to choose to become fish, one chooses to become male the other female,... What are the odds of that, than one fish chooses to walk on land and become a lizard, what are the chances of that, because you need two that means again that two fishes must of made the choice at the same time one a male than the other a female, and soon you see how ridiculous evolution becomes, because who in the heck told them they need legs, and that they need lungs to breath and that one needs a womb the other sperm to reproduce, or as the question goes, what came first, the chicken or the egg, because for that man doesnt have the answer.
I'm not getting into a debate about evolution.
 
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If Christianity critiques itself on inner transformation, then it's no different from any other religion.
If I, in all good faith come to Christ and my old addictions and sinful habits aren't taken away...and if I should preach Christ to others promising that in Christ they may be made free, but nothings happens, then yes, it is like any other religion. One might as well go to a counsellor, a therapist, a self-help workshop or motivational speaker. Now of course all these things have their place...but none of them forgives sin...and none of them have the power to fully heal and deliver from the bondage of sin and sinful addictions. The gospel promises that power to whosoever believes. If it didn't you would be right...no different from anything else on offer.