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(Kriss;53413)
]I have read the entire Bible on more occasions than I can count and there is no teaching of Universal Salvation We can go over every scripture one at a time and it still wont matter you can read whatever you want to see into them but that doesnt mean its right,
I commend you for your Bible reading, however, many throughout the centuries have read the Bible all the way through and have entirely missed doctrinal truths found in Scripture. (Kriss;53413)
I do not have time to go over every scripture you have quoted nowbut you have not answered the core questionWhy send Christ at all, why have a flesh age God could just have forgiven everyonr there sins and ended it,
Had Christ not come and sacrificed his life for mankind all of mankind would be eternally separated from God. But on account of His blood, all things will eventually be reconciled unto God. Satan will have one nothing.(Kriss;53413)
I could point out you are not taking into account some of these verse are talking about the plan of the ages and his second coming.
The second coming is an entirely different subject. I assure you that God will punish evil doers. However, God will bring them to their knees...not revel in their eternal torment. God isn't running a torture chamber, God isn't of the same character as Saddam Hussein. God's punishment is intended to be redemptive...not sadistic. The plan of the ages will end with all creation being brought into reconciliation with God.(Kriss;53413)
"For it is written, "As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God." This applies not only to the living in the flesh at the sounding of the seventh trumpet, but also to all souls that go the the Father, when they die in the flesh body.
Please show me chapter and verse for this idea. I contend that it is speaking of the consummation of all things...I Corinthians 15:27-2827For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess when all things are put under his feet and all things are subdued unto him. And in that day the Son will be subject to the Father and God may be "all" in "all". Here we see the reconciliation of all of creation.(Kriss;53413)
I know we are told there is no sin in the thrid earth age and that Satan and all those mentioned in Rev 21:8 are destroyed.
God isn't Shiva the Destroyer of Hindu faith. God is a savior, a loving God. God will not allow sin and Satan to destroy his children. None are expendable. God is and will be VICTORIOUS against sin and Satan. If sin and Satan succeeds in securing the eternal torment or destruction of just one soul...God's salvific purpose was defeated in that individual and God failed to be all in that one...but Scripture says that God will be all in all. Praise God! Please note that in Revelation 22 the wicked are mentioned again...they are not destroyed in chapter 21. Notice what it reads...Revelation 22:14-1514Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.Notice that the sinful are outside of the eternal city...but no lake of fire is mentioned. While these are not permitted to enter the city, they are no longer in the lake of fire and are reigned over for all eternity. (Kriss;53413)
I also know there are no condradictions in Gods Word you want to believe all those that follow Satan, all the murders, rapists, and evil at heart will be saved I guess you will have to believe it but it is not what is taught.
Does God forgive murderers, rapists, the evil at heart and save them today??? Does God ever change???Who holds the keys to death and hell???Who descended into hell and redeemed those souls who were once disobedient going back to the time of Noah???Who is capable of delivering a soul confined in the lowest hell???Psalm 86:13For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.Who turns men to destruction...and causes them to return again???Psalm 90:3Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.God is a restorer not a destroyer. Lamentations 3:31-3331 For the Lord will not cast off for ever:32 But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.33 For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.God is big enough to redeem all men from death and hell. How big is your God?Why am I not surprised? You are missing quite a bit. Yes Christ is the Saviour of all men, (Acts 4:12, I Timothy 4:12) But God allows Satan to do his thing to corrupt His plans to see if His children wants Him. Satan will die the second death, (Ezekiel 28:18) as His children who would rather follow the father of all lies (John 8:44) although Satan is His child as well. (John 3:16, Psalm 37:20) The second death is the death of one soul (Ezekiel 18:4, Ezekiel 18:20) (Revelation 20:14)Like I said not everybody wants Him, therefore, not everybody can be saved. All God wants is His children to repent (II Peter 3:9) and follow Him (John 14:6, John 14:15)Revelation 22 is future, which is after Revelation 20 and Revelation 21.Grace is only in this flesh age (Ephesians 2:8-10, Romans 11:6) and the Melinneum is likely not going to be grace but being judge according to their works.So no, Universal Salvation is completely unscriptural.
(Kriss;53413)
]I have read the entire Bible on more occasions than I can count and there is no teaching of Universal Salvation We can go over every scripture one at a time and it still wont matter you can read whatever you want to see into them but that doesnt mean its right,
I commend you for your Bible reading, however, many throughout the centuries have read the Bible all the way through and have entirely missed doctrinal truths found in Scripture. (Kriss;53413)
I do not have time to go over every scripture you have quoted nowbut you have not answered the core questionWhy send Christ at all, why have a flesh age God could just have forgiven everyonr there sins and ended it,
Had Christ not come and sacrificed his life for mankind all of mankind would be eternally separated from God. But on account of His blood, all things will eventually be reconciled unto God. Satan will have one nothing.(Kriss;53413)
I could point out you are not taking into account some of these verse are talking about the plan of the ages and his second coming.
The second coming is an entirely different subject. I assure you that God will punish evil doers. However, God will bring them to their knees...not revel in their eternal torment. God isn't running a torture chamber, God isn't of the same character as Saddam Hussein. God's punishment is intended to be redemptive...not sadistic. The plan of the ages will end with all creation being brought into reconciliation with God.(Kriss;53413)
"For it is written, "As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God." This applies not only to the living in the flesh at the sounding of the seventh trumpet, but also to all souls that go the the Father, when they die in the flesh body.
Please show me chapter and verse for this idea. I contend that it is speaking of the consummation of all things...I Corinthians 15:27-2827For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess when all things are put under his feet and all things are subdued unto him. And in that day the Son will be subject to the Father and God may be "all" in "all". Here we see the reconciliation of all of creation.(Kriss;53413)
I know we are told there is no sin in the thrid earth age and that Satan and all those mentioned in Rev 21:8 are destroyed.
God isn't Shiva the Destroyer of Hindu faith. God is a savior, a loving God. God will not allow sin and Satan to destroy his children. None are expendable. God is and will be VICTORIOUS against sin and Satan. If sin and Satan succeeds in securing the eternal torment or destruction of just one soul...God's salvific purpose was defeated in that individual and God failed to be all in that one...but Scripture says that God will be all in all. Praise God! Please note that in Revelation 22 the wicked are mentioned again...they are not destroyed in chapter 21. Notice what it reads...Revelation 22:14-1514Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.Notice that the sinful are outside of the eternal city...but no lake of fire is mentioned. While these are not permitted to enter the city, they are no longer in the lake of fire and are reigned over for all eternity. (Kriss;53413)
I also know there are no condradictions in Gods Word you want to believe all those that follow Satan, all the murders, rapists, and evil at heart will be saved I guess you will have to believe it but it is not what is taught.
Does God forgive murderers, rapists, the evil at heart and save them today??? Does God ever change???Who holds the keys to death and hell???Who descended into hell and redeemed those souls who were once disobedient going back to the time of Noah???Who is capable of delivering a soul confined in the lowest hell???Psalm 86:13For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.Who turns men to destruction...and causes them to return again???Psalm 90:3Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.God is a restorer not a destroyer. Lamentations 3:31-3331 For the Lord will not cast off for ever:32 But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.33 For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.God is big enough to redeem all men from death and hell. How big is your God?Why am I not surprised? You are missing quite a bit. Yes Christ is the Saviour of all men, (Acts 4:12, I Timothy 4:12) But God allows Satan to do his thing to corrupt His plans to see if His children wants Him. Satan will die the second death, (Ezekiel 28:18) as His children who would rather follow the father of all lies (John 8:44) although Satan is His child as well. (John 3:16, Psalm 37:20) The second death is the death of one soul (Ezekiel 18:4, Ezekiel 18:20) (Revelation 20:14)Like I said not everybody wants Him, therefore, not everybody can be saved. All God wants is His children to repent (II Peter 3:9) and follow Him (John 14:6, John 14:15)Revelation 22 is future, which is after Revelation 20 and Revelation 21.Grace is only in this flesh age (Ephesians 2:8-10, Romans 11:6) and the Melinneum is likely not going to be grace but being judge according to their works.So no, Universal Salvation is completely unscriptural.