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Mighty Bear

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Indeed Kriss. Remember that in my thread whereof I say that ESV (English Standard Version) is of Alexandrian Texts (Egypt) All that text does is destroying our Father's Word. It truly hates Christ.
Galaxies do merge, observation says, could be telling something here, so there could be male or female galaxies. Beauty is feminine maybe that's why I've never seen a beautiful male so evolution could be real too, not in a literal sense.
 

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"The majority of galaxies contain a supermassive black hole in their centers, ranging in mass from millions to billions of times the mass of our sun."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_formation_and_evolution"King of Pain" by The Policehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBfjplccwIAlyricsThere's a little black spot on the sun todayIt's the same old thing as yesterdayThere's a black hat caught in a high tree topThere's a flag-pole rag and the wind won't stopI have stood here before inside the pouring rainWith the world turning circles running 'round my brainI guess I'm always hoping that you'll end this reignBut it's my destiny to be the king of painThere's a fossil that's trapped in a high cliff wall(That`s my soul up there)There's a dead salmon frozen in a waterfall(That`s my soul up there)There's a blue whale beached by a spring tide's ebb(That`s my soul up there)There's a butterfly trapped in a spider's web(That`s my soul up there)I have stood here before inside the pouring rainWith the world turning circles running 'round my brainI guess I'm always hoping that you'll end this reignBut it's my destiny to be the king of painThere's a king on a throne with his eyes torn outThere's a blind man looking for a shadow of doubtThere's a rich man sleeping on a golden bedThere's a skeleton choking on a crust of breadKing of painThere's a red fox torn by a huntsman's packThere's a black-winged gull with a broken backThere's a little black spot on the sun todayIt's the same old thing as yesterdayI have stood here before inside the pouring rainWith the world turning circles running 'round my brainI guess I'm always hoping that you'll end this reignBut it's my destiny to be the king of painKing of painI'll always be king of painI'll always be king of pain
 

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Yes.John 1:1, Genesis 1:1
See, we agree
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.Revelation 13:8 states: “…Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”
 

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How could you accept that belief Red?, a son has to be born and the word "born" means to come into existence. You could be confused about Hebrews 13:8 but to me it means Jesus Christ whom God raised from the dead 2,000 years ago is the same forever and ever.
Really? A Son has to be created? Well, does not a father ALSO HAVE TO BE CREATED? If God, the Father, is a father... it only makes sense that He would also be the son to a mother right? After all... every father I have ever known has been the son of some other father. Also, where is Jesus mother in heaven?Lets see what else has to be true to be a son. By your same physiological definition, a Son also has to be conceived by sexual intercourse (or by a male and female counterpart). But, Jesus wasn't conceived as such... He was conceived of the Holy Spirit, in a virgin. If nothing else, this should show us that Jesus does not follow the same rules when it comes to being created as all other "sons" do.Also, where is Jesus mother in heaven? Isn't a mother required to have a Son? If a son MUST BE created... then where is Jesus' Mother in heaven? We know Who His Father is... but where is His Mother, if a son must be created, surely Jesus, God's Son, would follow our same understanding of how that goes down, right?Furthermore, Jesus tells us who is related to Him, regardless of physical relationship rules.
Mark 3:33-35...Who is my mother, or my brethren? ...Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
Doesn't a brother have to have the same mother as you? I thought that was the rule. Jesus said, however, that whoever does the will of His Father, is His brother (and mother), regardless of how or when they came into being. Jesus is removing all geneological and physiological boundries that we understand as family, in this life, and opening our mind to something much greater... the life of our relationship with eachother, to God, in heaven.Furhtermore still, when Jesus referred to God as His Father, the Jews saught to kill Him because He MADE HIMSELF EQUAL WITH GOD.
John 5:16-18And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God
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Philippians 2:6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God
The relationship that Jesus has with God, as God's Son, is not EXACTLY the same that we would have on Earth in our father/son relationships. If you think of Jesus, being the Father's Son, as someone who was birthed or created (I wonder where is the mother?), then I sincerely say you are missing it. Though granted, it is a bit mysterious, but God's Son (Jesus) has always been. He was not created.
 

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Yes.John 1:1, Genesis 1:1
See, we agree
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.Revelation 13:8 states: “…Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”I difinately would say half-agree. The Lamb was slain on this Earth Age.
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In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son And Of The Holy SpiritHere I Am Again To Share The Truth Of God Love(treeoflife;53618)
really? A Son Has To Be Created? well, Does Not A Father Also Have To Be Created? If God, The Father, Is A Father... It Only Makes Sense That He Would Also Be The Son To A Mother Right? After All... Every Father I Have Ever Known Has Been The Son Of Some Other Father. Also, Where Is Jesus Mother In Heaven?good Explaination, This Is What Jesus Called 'flesh'. THE TRUTH IS HEREIn The Beginning The Was A "word" And The Word Was With God And The "word" Was "god". (john 1:1-2)And The Word Was Made Flesh He Had Tent Pitched Among Us And We Have Seen His Glory, The Glory Of The Only Soncoming From The Father :fulness Of Truth And Loving Kindness(john 1:14) But All Who Have Believed Him He Empowers To Become Children Of God For They Believe In His Name.(john1:12)Talk About The Heavenly "father"... Yes Jesus Who Is "the Word" Who Is Also God..he Become Flesh Within Virgin Mary, And He Also Become The Son Of God... I Believe We All Know When Jesus Was Baptize In The River Of Jordan The Holy Spirit Came Down From Heaven And The Voice From Heaven Was Heard" You Are My Son, This Day I Have Begotten You" (luke 3: 22)...why God In Heaven Call Jesus "his Son".?? Because God The Father Love Him So Much And Jesus Is Part Of Him.Through Jesus We All Come To Know Who Is God The Father In Heaven. Jesus Show Us How Wonderful Is God Love. That Why Jesus Teach Us How To Pray" The Lord Prayer" "our Father In Heaven" (luke 11: 2)See!! Jesus Empower Us To Be The Children Of God.... We Call The Almighty God Who Is The Creator Of Heaven And Earth "the Father" Which No Body Ever Say This Not Even The Prophets Before Jesus...but Jesus Him Self.that Why In Isaiah 7;14 Did Mentioned His Name Is Emmanuel Mean God-with-us... Wow..when God With Us... So Who Are We To Judge God.Lets See What Else Has To Be True To Be A Son. By Your Same Physiological Definition, A Son Also Has To Be Conceived By Sexual Intercourse (or By A Male And Female Counterpart). But, Jesus Wasn't Conceived As Such... He Was Conceived Of The Holy Spirit, In A Virgin. If Nothing Else, This Should Show Us That Jesus Does Not Follow The Same Rules When It Comes To Being Created As All Other "sons" Do.yes... We Always Failed To See God Grace Upon Us. Actually This Is Due To We Lean On Our Own Unerstanding And Depending On Our Flesh. In The Bible, The Almighty God The Father Said To All Of Us Here:-"this Is My Son, My Beloved, My Chosen One. Listen To Him."(matthew 17:5) This Is "instruction Given To All Of Us From The Father In Heaven"... The Term That The Bible Used "the Father" And "the Son" Is Totally Difference From The Earthly Father. Those Who Call The Almighty God "the Father" Are Those Who Are Born, But Without Seed Or Canal Desire Or Will Of Man: They Are Born Of God.(john 1:13)Also, Where Is Jesus Mother In Heaven? Isn't A Mother Required To Have A Son? If A Son Must Be Created... Then Where Is Jesus' Mother In Heaven? We Know Who His Father Is... But Where Is His Mother, If A Son Must Be Created, Surely Jesus, God's Son, Would Follow Our Same Understanding Of How That Goes Down, Right?first We Must Be Born Angain From Above Then Only We Will See The Truth. As Jesus Said : "truly I Say To You, Unless One Is Born Again Of Water And Spirit He Cannot Enter The Kingdom Of God".. Most Christian Claim They Have The Holy Spirit...actually The Flesh Is Talking...they Dont Have The Spirit. God Is Spirit So.. We Too Must Be A Spiritual Person. If We Are Like Cat And The Dog So How Can We Comunicate With Each Other (example Only)The Virgin Mary Was Chosen By God To Part Of God Plan For The Salvation...as We All Know. Those Who Is Very Close To God Cannot Be A Corrupted Or With The Original Sin. If We Still Clink To The Original Sin We Will Die When God Over Shadow Us... So This Is What Happen To Virgin Mary. Even Though She Is Ordinary Human Being But God Look Kindly Upon Her And She Was Full Of Grace And God Purify Her With The Power Of Holy Spirit And She Free From The Original Sin And Sinless That Why She Not Die When God Over Shadow Her... Good Example, When Jesus Appear To Saul, Saul Become Blind Due To The Radiance Of The Light That Come Out From Jesus.... Jesus Did Not Overshadow Him. If Jesus Did That Saul Will Die.See!! How Blessed Is Virgin Mary, She Is With Jesus Sharing The Glory In Heaven.furthermore, Jesus Tells Us Who Is Related To Him, Regardless Of Physical Relationship Rules.
mark 3:33-35[/color]...who Is My Mother, Or My brethren? ...behold My Mother And My brethren! For Whosoever Shall Do The Will Of God, The Same Is My Brother, And My Sister, And Mother.
again If We Use Our Flesh..we Will Never See The Truth.In The Above Verse Jesus Is Refering To His Mother, He Gave The Good Example Of What Her Mother Have Done.Now Look... Jesus Is "the Word" He Become Flesh Within The Virgin Mary... This Is God Plan. God Sent His Angel To The Virgin Mary Because God Look Kindly Upon Her And She Was Full Of Graceand Informed Her "the Will Of God". And With Humble Heart She Said To The Angel " I Am The Handmaid Of The Lord. Let It Be Done To Me As You Have Said." And The Angel Left.(luke 1:38)See!!mark 3:33-35 God Will Is Fulfilled In Virgin Mary... That Why You And Me Claim Jesus Is Our Savior, Our Redeemer. He Is The Emmanuel...Doesn't A Brother Have To Have The Same Mother As You? I Thought That Was The Rule. Jesus Said, However, That Whoever Does The Will Of His Father, Is His Brother (and Mother), Regardless Of How Or When They Came Into Being. Jesus Is Removing All Geneological And Physiological Boundries That We Understand As Family, In This Life, And Opening Our Mind To Something Much Greater... The Life Of Our Relationship With Eachother, To God, In Heaven.that Why The Spirit Of Bible Use The Term Father...because God Is Love And God Is Emmanuel Mean God With Us.furhtermore Still, When Jesus Referred To God As His Father, The Jews Saught To Kill Him Because He made Himself equal with God.
john 5:16-18and Therefore Did The Jews Persecute Jesus, And Sought To Slay Him, Because He Had Done These Things On The Sabbath Day. But Jesus Answered Them, my Father Worketh Hitherto, And I Work. therefore The Jews Sought The More To Kill Him, Because He Not Only Had Broken The Sabbath, But Said Also That God Was His Father, Making Himself Equal With God
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philippians 2:6who, Being In The Form Of God, thought It Not Robbery To Be equal with God
The Relationship That Jesus Has With God, As God's Son, Is Not Exactly The Same That We Would Have On Earth In Our Father/son Relationships. If You Think Of Jesus, Being The Father's Son, As Someone Who Was Birthed Or Created (i Wonder Where Is The Mother?), Then I Sincerely Say You Are Missing It. Though Granted, It Is A Bit Mysterious, But God's Son (jesus) Has Always Been. He Was Not Created.
jesus Come To The World Not To Remove The Law But To Fulfill It.Jesus Is "the Lord Of The Sabbath". If We Are Sided The Jews And The Pharisee Then.. We Are Insulted Jesus.God In Heaven Have Given Us This Instruction :-"this Is My Son, My Beloved, My Chosen One. Listen To Him."So Therefore We Must Follow Jesus, First We Must Be Born Again With Water And Spirit Then Only We Will Know The Truth Of The Kindom Of God And The Truth Of His Loving Kindness.May God BlessAmenFrom Watt