Divisions

Taken · Mar 8, 2019

BreadOfLife said:
There you go trying to rationalize your way out of it again.
BOY - the OJ Jury would have LOVED you . . .

Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel (GOD with us).

Isaiah 9:6
For a child is born to us, A son is given to us; And the government Is upon His shoulder; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.

John 20:27-28
Thomas replied, “My Lord and my GOD!”

Matt. 2:11
On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.

Luke 1:35
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

Luke 1:43
But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

John 2:1
On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there,

John 19:25
Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

John 19:26
When Jesus saw HIS MOTHER and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son!”

Acts 1:14
They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.

That's what we students of Scripture calla "SLAM DUNK" . . .

Blab, blab, blab....Deflect, deflect, deflect...
Not one verse says Mary is the mother of God.

Taken · Mar 8, 2019

BreadOfLife said:
"Worry"??
Who's "worried"??

Baptized Catholics who are Catholics in name only are not genuine Catholics.

Thanks for clarifying the fracture and splinter within the Catholic church.

Go focus on your "non genuine Catholics" and stop worrying about Protestants.

AKA, sweep your own porch.

Taken · Mar 8, 2019

No you have not.

You simply post references and quotes that DO NOT SAY WHAT YOU CLAIM...

Then pat yourself on the back, for deflecting and NOT QUOTING ONE SCRIPTURE that claims what you claim.

Laughable....LOL

Marymog · Mar 8, 2019

mjrhealth said:
Your helping no one , not even yourself.

I went to a comedy show last night. I laughed for hours.....The things you say keep me laughing for days.

Mary

mjrhealth · Mar 8, 2019

Marymog said:
I went to a comedy show last night. I laughed for hours.....The things you say keep me laughing for days.

Mary

Im glad, laughter is good for teh soul,,

Taken · Mar 8, 2019

Marymog said:
I am addressing what you wrote: Catholics have a "holy mother of God".

Mary is Holy

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So? So is every PERSON converted IN Christ.

Rom 11
[16] For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Therefor it is not JUST Catholics that have the Holy mother of God.

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You speak for Catholics, Catholic Doctrine.

No, you do not speak for me.

God is without descent. He has no Mother or Father.

Not ONE Scripture claims mary is the mother of God. That is Catholic Doctine, they claim like you, God has a mother, when Scripture does not say so.

All Christians do.

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You do not speak for ALL Christians.

@BreadOfLife has already schooled you in regard to Mary being the mother of God.

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LOL ~ BOL parrots Catholic Doctrine, and references Scripture that gives ZERO support to his claims.

And FYI, repeatedly BOL'S back patting teaching has been REJECTED!

Marymog · Mar 8, 2019

You make ZERO sense.

@Taken You have said two different things. Is Mary Holy or not Holy??? Which one??

Taken · Mar 8, 2019

Marymog said:
You make ZERO sense.

@Taken You have said two different things. Is Mary Holy or not Holy??? Which one??

I believe everyone who believes and is converted IN Christ is holy unto God.

Do you believe Mary believed and was converted IN Christ? I do, and never said otherwise.

I do not believe God has a Mother or Father.

Since you believe Mary is the mother of God...then who is Gods Father ?

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marksman · Mar 9, 2019

Marymog said:
Hi Mark,

Cut and pasted from Post #178 QUOTE: If 1,000 say the say thing I am getting concrete evidence.

I know you meant to write same thing not "say thing".

Sooooo now back to the subject at hand: I have used your own theory to come to a conclusion and that conclusion shows how ridiculous your theory is.

And this is the best response you have??? You can't even defend your own theory.....

Mary

Oh dear, what can the matter be

BreadOfLife · Mar 9, 2019

Taken said:
Blab, blab, blab....Deflect, deflect, deflect...
Not one verse says Mary is the mother of God.

Sure they do.

A thousand of your denials don't amount to ONE fact . . .

BreadOfLife · Mar 9, 2019

Taken said:
Thanks for clarifying the fracture and splinter within the Catholic church.

Go focus on your "non genuine Catholics" and stop worrying about Protestants.

AKA, sweep your own porch.

I never included them - just like I don't include phony Protestants who don't practice their faith.
I don't consider these types of "Christians"as splinter groups - so your entire point here is moot . . .

Marymog · Mar 10, 2019

marksman said:
Oh dear, what can the matter be

Hi Mark,

What can the matter be?

You can't admit that you were wrong..... To much pride is suspect.

You can't admit that your theory makes no sense......due to arrogance I suspect.

Mary

marksman · Mar 13, 2019

Marymog said:
Hi Mark,

What can the matter be?

You can't admit that you were wrong..... To much pride is suspect.

You can't admit that your theory makes no sense......due to arrogance I suspect.

Mary

My name is not Mark so that is not the only thing you have got wrong.

And I don't deal in theories as my modus operandi is to do an extensive study before I will proffer anything about anything.

If I haven't done the study, I do not comment.

marksman · Mar 13, 2019

BreadOfLife said:
Sure they do.

A thousand of your denials don't amount to ONE fact . . .

So let's have them then.

Taken · Mar 13, 2019

BreadOfLife said:
Sure they do.

A thousand of your denials don't amount to ONE fact . . .

Fact is you could not provide ANY Scripture to support your claims.

brakelite · Mar 13, 2019

Catholic logic does make sense when the claim is proffered that Mary is the mother of God, but I think our mistake as Protestants and our failure to negate that logic lies in our failure to reject the Catholic trinity. The trinity denies Jesus His Sonship of God, as the trinity promotes the concept that the Father and the Son are merely metaphorical being of the same age and the Father not literally begetting a son. But if we should accept scripture as it is presented, that Jesus is literally the only begotten Son of God, then the logic would fail for Mary could not be the mother of both God and the Son. Jesus was the Son of God long before Bethlehem...Mary therefore could only be the mother of the human nature of Jesus, not the divine, as the divine nature entered into the flesh and became man. Mary was not the mother of the divine nature...thus not the mother of God, for if Jesus is the Son of God, Mary must also be the Jesus's grandmother. Crazy logic and a stupid argument spawned by a superstitious gullible populace imprisoned by a coterie of duplicitous priests parading and masquerading as men of God but are in reality no more than deceived sinners as are their followers.

tabletalk · Mar 13, 2019

Marymog said:
Hi TT,

You agree with the CC on the fact that the person who is the Pope is fallible. Thankfully the Pope doesn't decide doctrine/dogma for The Church.

Since your statements are fallible anytime you say the teachings of the CC are wrong or opposite of Scripture etc. etc. shouldn't you preface all of your statements about the CC with "In my opinion the CC is wrong on the teaching of XYZ because....".

If everyone is fallible does that not mean we really don't know The Truth?

Curious Mary

"You agree with the CC on the fact that the person who is the Pope is fallible."
But, the Pope is 'infallible' when he declares something from the chair of Peter, according to your religion?
And, wouldn't it be an 'infallible' declaration when he canonizes a saint? Can that be changed?
So, your Pope is an 'infallible' person at times.
(Psalms 146) 3."Do not put your trust in princes,
Nor in a son of man, in whom there is no help."

Taken · Mar 13, 2019

brakelite said:
Catholic logic does make sense when the claim is proffered that Mary is the mother of God, but I think our mistake as Protestants and our failure to negate that logic lies in our failure to reject the Catholic trinity. The trinity denies Jesus His Sonship of God, as the trinity promotes the concept that the Father and the Son are merely metaphorical being of the same age and the Father not literally begetting a son. But if we should accept scripture as it is presented, that Jesus is literally the only begotten Son of God, then the logic would fail for Mary could not be the mother of both God and the Son. Jesus was the Son of God long before Bethlehem...Mary therefore could only be the mother of the human nature of Jesus, not the divine, as the divine nature entered into the flesh and became man. Mary was not the mother of the divine nature...thus not the mother of God, for if Jesus is the Son of God, Mary must also be the Jesus's grandmother. Crazy logic and a stupid argument spawned by a superstitious gullible populace imprisoned by a coterie of duplicitous priests parading and masquerading as men of God but are in reality no more than deceived sinners as are their followers.

TRI-UNITY Three IS ONE GOD.

The WORD Trinity, in Reference to Father, Son, Holy Spirit IS ONE thee Lord God Almighty, is not an issue with me.

Catholics do not have a PATENT on the WORD TRINITY!

Nor do Catholics have a PATENT on the Definition of TRINITY!

TRINITY simply means THREE UNITED ONE.

Catholics TEACH...THREE SEPARATED are ONE.

I disagree with Catholic teaching.

God Does NOT Change...

Thee Lord God Almighty is NEVER SEPARATED FROM Himself.

Men DIVIDE themselves FROM God.
In the end God shall SEPARATE the DIVIDED.
A FEW WITH HIM, and MANY WITHOUT HIM.

Glory to God,
Taken

brakelite · Mar 13, 2019

I know I have said this before, but if the 'trinity' can never be separated, then the Son didn't die, except for his humanity...and no matter the innocence of a human life, it can't atone for a divine law. Its still a human sacrifice. Not even an angle could have accomplished the atonement. You need to rethink the consequences of all the varieties of trinity that are out there...the unity or division...the subordination or oneness...whatever, all things need to be considered and taken into account, including the atonement and who/what actually died on Calvary.

bbyrd009 · Mar 13, 2019

Get your interps from Romans at your own peril, definitely

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