My source is the bible which clearly says it is a guide to the Messiah and not the truth and the way. What in my post do you not find in the bible? All you have to do is turn on the television to see that the world is being led by the Anti Christ's. The Meek shall inherit the earth and mandkind does not even know who the Meek are because they are deceived and have let the Moneychangers and Salesman inherit the earth.
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verzanumi24
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My source is the bible which clearly says it is a guide to the Messiah and not the truth and the way. What in my post do you not find in the bible? All you have to do is turn on the television to see that the world is being led by the Anti Christ's. The Meek shall inherit the earth and mandkind does not even know who the Meek are because they are deceived and have let the Moneychangers and Salesman inherit the earth.
You know I changed my mind; I am not going to get into a debate, its a wast of time. This is the reason why I don't come to this forum too often. I am simply going to say I disagree with you, not that I disagree with everything that you say, just the your belief is a bit jumbled and a little twisted.
My source is the bible which clearly says it is a guide to the Messiah and not the truth and the way. What in my post do you not find in the bible? All you have to do is turn on the television to see that the world is being led by the Anti Christ's. The Meek shall inherit the earth and mandkind does not even know who the Meek are because they are deceived and have let the Moneychangers and Salesman inherit the earth.
You know I changed my mind; I am not going to get into a debate, its a wast of time. This is the reason why I don't come to this forum too often. I am simply going to say I disagree with you, not that I disagree with everything that you say, just the your belief is a bit jumbled and a little twisted.
verzanumi, I guess thier is no debate when your mind is closed, go waste your time voting for another politician and believing in the false prophets to lead you further down the wide road that leads to destruction.
(Jake99;54658)
The bible is filled with literal, symbolic, hypothetical. theoreticals and only one special man knows what it actually is trying to say. He will perform miracles and fulfill prophecies like it was childs play and he will do things that make him look crazy as he gets into position to get his foot on Satans head. I highly recommend taking on the religious leaders and the judicial system as Jesus did which is the war with the government that mankind is to look for. The bible is many mens opinions and predictions it is not the word of God or Jesus, it is a guide so mankind can identify the True Christ by his words and works. Mankind must accept the Messiah who walks among them which is the most difficult task as it was 2000 years ago because the Messiah wants to change everything that mankind has become accustomed to. The simple system that will be put in place to govern the planet is so inclusive and perfect that it will never change, nor would anyone want it to. After a thousand years of the New World you could let Satan loose again and nothing would change. Mankind has been led by Satans ways and you can watch that in the News everyday. The Way that the bible speaks of will create only Good News but only one human being supports the simple system outlined in the bible and people throw stones at him, call him crazy, a madman and a blasphemer. The Messiah is not just a nice guy he is also a warrior on a mission to defeat and over power every world leader that mankind supports. Mankind will even abuse the Messiah and put him on trial in an attempt to shut him up permanently. They will lash him and humiliate him and reject him like he was the plague and yet he will remain unbound and undeterred even if his blood is shed. Mankind listens to false prophets, lawyers, soldiers and politicians today as they did when Jesus stood against them. Are you ready to destroy the moneychangers and the salesman who rule this world?
You have no clue what you are talking about spoken like one who has just accepted the milk is all there is to Gods Word if you do not wish to learn and unterstand the meat/deeper things of Gods word that is your choice. But please do not try to tell us what we dont know when you are a babe on milk. There is more to the Word than you ever been taught. If you stop with the milk doctrine baby talk you might just learn something. We have some very wise people here.
The bible is filled with literal, symbolic, hypothetical. theoreticals and only one special man knows what it actually is trying to say. He will perform miracles and fulfill prophecies like it was childs play and he will do things that make him look crazy as he gets into position to get his foot on Satans head. I highly recommend taking on the religious leaders and the judicial system as Jesus did which is the war with the government that mankind is to look for. The bible is many mens opinions and predictions it is not the word of God or Jesus, it is a guide so mankind can identify the True Christ by his words and works. Mankind must accept the Messiah who walks among them which is the most difficult task as it was 2000 years ago because the Messiah wants to change everything that mankind has become accustomed to. The simple system that will be put in place to govern the planet is so inclusive and perfect that it will never change, nor would anyone want it to. After a thousand years of the New World you could let Satan loose again and nothing would change. Mankind has been led by Satans ways and you can watch that in the News everyday. The Way that the bible speaks of will create only Good News but only one human being supports the simple system outlined in the bible and people throw stones at him, call him crazy, a madman and a blasphemer. The Messiah is not just a nice guy he is also a warrior on a mission to defeat and over power every world leader that mankind supports. Mankind will even abuse the Messiah and put him on trial in an attempt to shut him up permanently. They will lash him and humiliate him and reject him like he was the plague and yet he will remain unbound and undeterred even if his blood is shed. Mankind listens to false prophets, lawyers, soldiers and politicians today as they did when Jesus stood against them. Are you ready to destroy the moneychangers and the salesman who rule this world?
You have no clue what you are talking about spoken like one who has just accepted the milk is all there is to Gods Word if you do not wish to learn and unterstand the meat/deeper things of Gods word that is your choice. But please do not try to tell us what we dont know when you are a babe on milk. There is more to the Word than you ever been taught. If you stop with the milk doctrine baby talk you might just learn something. We have some very wise people here.
kriss, I only had to be taught the bible once as a child to understand what it means. I agree that the world will be thirsty for the words of the Lord because everyone is going the wrong way including you. Christianity has twisted the bible to suit thier way of life which is one of greed, possession, profits, destruction, gambling, child abuse and wars. All of mankind is deaf, dumb and blind otherwise we would be living in everlasting peace and prosperity. The Messiah comes to unite the world and install a simple and fair operating system that applies to everyone and the bible will end up in the recycle bin. If there are wise people here we should have a discussion about the moneychangers, soldiers, politicians, false prophets and salesman who are wrecking this planet and leading mankind down the wide road that leads to destruction. Were you not told that the planet is a gift to all mankind? That is why you cannot sell it and put lines on the map.
Matthew 5:17-18
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
The millennium quite clearly is spoken of in Revelation 20.Revelation 20:6-7
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Now that we have a very clear timeline, heaven and earth do not pass away until Revelation 21, after the final defeat of Satan.Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
The law (meaning the Word) doesn't pass away until this point. Remember that Yeshua (Jesus) himself is, in fact, the Word made flesh (John 1). The key is understanding all of it and understanding that the fake messiah will show up first, placing his own system of government (the beast). As Daniel tells us, the beast we shall see is very diverse from any of the others. It will have an iron grip but it will destroy peacefully and wondrously. It will appear to the world as the great salvation, but to those elect of God that will stand, we'll know it for what it is.I'd be happy to document all of that, if you are interested. Christ said, in Matthew 24 amongst other places that he told us everything. If you let go of the Bible now in anticipation of the future, then you're letting go of the letter where he told you everything. The Bible eventually won't be needed because of the seal in our foreheads as children of YHVH, but we need every letter of it now and up until the Holy Spirit speaks through us on that day and our Lord returns in His glory.We'll gladly discuss and disagree peacably, but I think one must understand that as corrupt as the world is today, it will only get worse before it is finally ended.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
The millennium quite clearly is spoken of in Revelation 20.Revelation 20:6-7
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Now that we have a very clear timeline, heaven and earth do not pass away until Revelation 21, after the final defeat of Satan.Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
The law (meaning the Word) doesn't pass away until this point. Remember that Yeshua (Jesus) himself is, in fact, the Word made flesh (John 1). The key is understanding all of it and understanding that the fake messiah will show up first, placing his own system of government (the beast). As Daniel tells us, the beast we shall see is very diverse from any of the others. It will have an iron grip but it will destroy peacefully and wondrously. It will appear to the world as the great salvation, but to those elect of God that will stand, we'll know it for what it is.I'd be happy to document all of that, if you are interested. Christ said, in Matthew 24 amongst other places that he told us everything. If you let go of the Bible now in anticipation of the future, then you're letting go of the letter where he told you everything. The Bible eventually won't be needed because of the seal in our foreheads as children of YHVH, but we need every letter of it now and up until the Holy Spirit speaks through us on that day and our Lord returns in His glory.We'll gladly discuss and disagree peacably, but I think one must understand that as corrupt as the world is today, it will only get worse before it is finally ended.
(Jake99;55095)
kriss, I only had to be taught the bible once as a child to understand what it means. I agree that the world will be thirsty for the words of the Lord because everyone is going the wrong way including you. Christianity has twisted the bible to suit thier way of life which is one of greed, possession, profits, destruction, gambling, child abuse and wars. All of mankind is deaf, dumb and blind otherwise we would be living in everlasting peace and prosperity. The Messiah comes to unite the world and install a simple and fair operating system that applies to everyone and the bible will end up in the recycle bin. If there are wise people here we should have a discussion about the moneychangers, soldiers, politicians, false prophets and salesman who are wrecking this planet and leading mankind down the wide road that leads to destruction. Were you not told that the planet is a gift to all mankind? That is why you cannot sell it and put lines on the map.
I'm sorry but it takes more than once to understand it...and it's not the soldiers, politicians, false prophets, and salesman who are destroying the world... it is Satan that is destroying the world. I blame him for all the confusion and deceit that is in the world today, not men.
kriss, I only had to be taught the bible once as a child to understand what it means. I agree that the world will be thirsty for the words of the Lord because everyone is going the wrong way including you. Christianity has twisted the bible to suit thier way of life which is one of greed, possession, profits, destruction, gambling, child abuse and wars. All of mankind is deaf, dumb and blind otherwise we would be living in everlasting peace and prosperity. The Messiah comes to unite the world and install a simple and fair operating system that applies to everyone and the bible will end up in the recycle bin. If there are wise people here we should have a discussion about the moneychangers, soldiers, politicians, false prophets and salesman who are wrecking this planet and leading mankind down the wide road that leads to destruction. Were you not told that the planet is a gift to all mankind? That is why you cannot sell it and put lines on the map.
I'm sorry but it takes more than once to understand it...and it's not the soldiers, politicians, false prophets, and salesman who are destroying the world... it is Satan that is destroying the world. I blame him for all the confusion and deceit that is in the world today, not men.
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Super Kal:To put it simply, there will be a 1000 year reign of Christ on this earth because he has to take the earthly throne of David. (Luke 1:32-33) that is the whole sum of what Messiah was prophesied to do. He does not sit on the earthly throne now, but will take it from the one who does sit on it at the time of His coming.Too much of modern Christianity has spiritualized the truths in the OT. However, there always was and always will be BOTH a literal and spiritual fulfillment to everything.
This is Satan's world according to the bible and it is Satan's system that governs the planet. God wanted a world where soldiers would never be required and to have that world you must prohibit the professions that cause war and destruction. The politicians, salesman and religious leaders have caused all of the wars and environmental destruction just like the bible said they would. Treat your neighbor as you would yourself suggests everyone having the same rights and the same simple governing system. Prices and wages are supposed to be standardized and transparent and private banking needs to be eliminated and currency standardized globally. Mankind wastes manpower and materials doing work God would prohibit and they seldom manage the environment properly because it is not profitable. Everlasting peace and prosperity is the goal and this world teaches the opposite. Mankind was designed as users not owners since the planet is a gift to all who will ever live here. The bible as mankind reads it is worthless to all except the Messiah since mankind has never understood the message. The thousand year reign of Christ consists of a global operating system that once installed will never change. Mankind will be recyling the war machines into useful tools for managing the environment.
Seems you tend to put your own thoughts as Gods thoughts alot Jake99, Matthew 10:34-35 – “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”The majority of Christians believe that Jesus came to bring peace. Many feel it is their Christian duty to spread “love” and “peace,” because “that’s what Jesus did.While this is true in part he also has another purpose. He reveals He came to bring “a sword” and set “at variance” (Greek: make apart, sunder, alienate) family members.
verzanumi24
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Seems you tend to put your own thoughts as Gods thoughts alot Jake99, Matthew 10:34-35 – “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”The majority of Christians believe that Jesus came to bring peace. Many feel it is their Christian duty to spread “love” and “peace,” because “that’s what Jesus did.While this is true in part he also has another purpose. He reveals He came to bring “a sword” and set “at variance” (Greek: make apart, sunder, alienate) family members.
That scripture must be understood in the right context; it is talking about a conflict between the believer and the non-believer. It is not talking about conventional wars. If you the entire thought you will see whom Jesus is talking about. In other words, when a Christian stands up for God and what is right, his or her family who are not believers will have a problem with that.
Seems you tend to put your own thoughts as Gods thoughts alot Jake99, Matthew 10:34-35 – “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”The majority of Christians believe that Jesus came to bring peace. Many feel it is their Christian duty to spread “love” and “peace,” because “that’s what Jesus did.While this is true in part he also has another purpose. He reveals He came to bring “a sword” and set “at variance” (Greek: make apart, sunder, alienate) family members.
That scripture must be understood in the right context; it is talking about a conflict between the believer and the non-believer. It is not talking about conventional wars. If you the entire thought you will see whom Jesus is talking about. In other words, when a Christian stands up for God and what is right, his or her family who are not believers will have a problem with that.
Right but division causes conflict whether its in families or between religions, or believers and non believers, conflicts have always caused wars Think not that I am come to send peace on earth
(kriss;55229)
Right but division causes conflict whether its in families or between religions, or believers and non believers, conflicts have always caused wars Think not that I am come to send peace on earth
That's true Kriss, I seen it happen...
Right but division causes conflict whether its in families or between religions, or believers and non believers, conflicts have always caused wars Think not that I am come to send peace on earth
That's true Kriss, I seen it happen...
The ways of Satan must be destroyed before peace can be achieved and that is done with the sword that comes out of the Messiah's mouth. Mankind has been decieved and is going the wrong direction following the preachers and politicians.
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