The Fire is Now?

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VictoryinJesus

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Matthew 3:10-12
[10] And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [11] I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: [12] Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

It is His work to purge His floor. Every tree that brings not forth good fruit which is the good fruit of the Spirit is hewn down...and cast into the fire. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Isaiah 33:10-14
[10] Now will I rise, saith the Lord ; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself. [11] Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you. [12] And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire. [13] Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might. [14] The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Micah 4:11-13
[11] Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion. [12] But they know not the thoughts of the Lord , neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor. [13] Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the Lord , and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.

“let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.” let our eye look upon Zion in her shame and nakedness. BUT they know not the thoughts of the Lord...

Jeremiah 29:11
[11] For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord , thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.


Isaiah 55:7-8
[7] Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord , and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. [8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord .

Psalm 31:1
[1] In thee, O Lord , do I put my trust; let me never be ashamed: deliver me in thy righteousness.
 

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Addressing the OP only, intresting post. but there are several kinds of fire.
example, your Isaiah 33:10-14 you posted.

1 Corinthians 3:11 "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:12 "Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1 Corinthians 3:13 "Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1 Corinthians 3:14 "If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire".

also in reference to the above verse, it was with the two witness as to how if, "any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed", meaning, "fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies". but this is not natural fire, but the word of God. scripture,
Jeremiah 5:13 "And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.
Jeremiah 5:14 "Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them".

for God id a refining fire. Malachi 3:2 "But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap".

not saying that you're right or wrong here, but not all fire is a destroying fire, of sin, yes. but the same fire that burn the wicked can save. just an oponion.

PICJAG.
 

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Ok, but since it came up in the very next notification, you might note my "shame and nakedness" here,
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You smoke weed and think "believers" cannot be demon possessed?
ah, finding that ammo useful, huh Dave? lol

but I'm not getting the connection between the "deep emotion" or whatever that I commented upon and your "demon-possessed" yet, sorry. Could you rephrase maybe
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wherein a confession that I made is now being used against me, although I am obv biased there, so you decide
 
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Ok, but since it came up in the very next notification, you might note my "shame and nakedness" here,
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ah, finding that ammo useful, huh Dave? lol

but I'm not getting the connection between the "deep emotion" or whatever that I commented upon and your "demon-possessed" yet, sorry. Could you rephrase maybe
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wherein a confession that I made is now being used against me, although I am obv biased there, so you decide
I'm going to let this lay for now.
 

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Addressing the OP only, intresting post. but there are several kinds of fire.
example, your Isaiah 33:10-14 you posted.

1 Corinthians 3:11 "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:12 "Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1 Corinthians 3:13 "Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1 Corinthians 3:14 "If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire".

also in reference to the above verse, it was with the two witness as to how if, "any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed", meaning, "fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies". but this is not natural fire, but the word of God. scripture,
Jeremiah 5:13 "And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.
Jeremiah 5:14 "Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them".

for God id a refining fire. Malachi 3:2 "But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap".

not saying that you're right or wrong here, but not all fire is a destroying fire, of sin, yes. but the same fire that burn the wicked can save. just an oponion.

PICJAG.

Do see what you are saying and have struggled here because there are different fires. But all come from God in the way of wrath against works of the flesh: sin, death, and hell in overthrowing them.

Job 28:3-5
[3] He setteth an end to darkness, and searcheth out all perfection: the stones of darkness, and the shadow of death. [4] The flood breaketh out from the inhabitant; even the waters forgotten of the foot: they are dried up, they are gone away from men. [5] As for the earth, out of it cometh bread: and under it is turned up as it were fire.

Many references to the earth being an oven...also a furnace.

Consider: Nebuchadnezzar (the king’s wrath) and the three ...no four that remain not out of the Fire but in the Fire; loosed and walking...no hurt.

Zechariah 3:1-2
[1] And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord , and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. [2] And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

To many to list...

1 Peter 4:12-14
[12] Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: [13] But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. [14] If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye ; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

Which addresses the reference to the fiery trial that reveals what work it is built upon (flesh or Spirit) in that only works of the Spirit (the kingdom that cannot be shaken) remain. Making a jump here but consider who inherits the earth...only the children born of Spirit are able to remain in the all-consuming Fire of God. Then can one be saved but suffer loss...something more there.

"But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap".

Who may abide the day of his coming? The children born of God (Spirit). That perfect man created in Christ.

Revelation 3:18
[18] I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Jude 1:23
[23] And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Pulling them out of wrath (garment spotted by the flesh), into Christ (Spirit)?
 
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Matthew 3:10-12
[10] And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [11] I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: [12] Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

It is His work to purge His floor. Every tree that brings not forth good fruit which is the good fruit of the Spirit is hewn down...and cast into the fire. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Isaiah 33:10-14
[10] Now will I rise, saith the Lord ; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself. [11] Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you. [12] And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire. [13] Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might. [14] The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Micah 4:11-13
[11] Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion. [12] But they know not the thoughts of the Lord , neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor. [13] Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the Lord , and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.

“let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.” let our eye look upon Zion in her shame and nakedness. BUT they know not the thoughts of the Lord...

Jeremiah 29:11
[11] For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord , thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.


Isaiah 55:7-8
[7] Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord , and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. [8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord .

Psalm 31:1
[1] In thee, O Lord , do I put my trust; let me never be ashamed: deliver me in thy righteousness.
Great verses there, applicable in the Gospel.
 

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Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire".

1 Corinthians 5:5
[5] To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
 
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he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
The fire of the Lord, prophesied over 70 times in the Bible, will be the great and terrible Day of the Lord's wrath; the Sixth Seal event.
That is the next prophesied event, the one that will destroy the attackers of Israel as described in Micah 4:11-12 and Psalms 83

We Christians who study the Prophetic Word, should know all about it and be prepared spiritually and physically for it.
 
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1 Corinthians 5:5
[5] To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
2 Corinthians 5:16 "Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
2 Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

PICJAG.
 

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Yes, the fire is now, the fire of judgment. The judgment went forth at the cross: to the house of Israel and all who looked forward to the day of the coming of the Lord; and to the gentiles who look back and believe. Thus, each is elect as chosen in Christ, by faith in Christ, or given to fire.
 
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Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
No, the fire is NOT now. This is the age of grace, and the Gospel of grace is to be preached to every creature. The fire is reserved for the future.
 

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He baptizes with fire.
That has nothing to do with fiery judgments on the wicked.

It has everything to do with the martyrdom of the saints. Similar to the baptism with which Christ was baptized on the cross.

But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! (Lk 12:50)